khan is a lot more skillful then those other fighters to fast to slick devon would have to be luckky and catch him with one devon moves back khan 2 fast to miss him + roach to good of a trianer gonna teach khan well
If only Floyd believed you... This fight would have happened years ago.
FLoyd wins because?? Because he beat Gatti?
Floyd barely beat an old DLH.... He looked like sh it against Judah for the first 4 rounds... loss to Castillo... Just stop acting like Floyd is unbeatable.
you must of not read my thread must of read my title only what about pac what about cotto with the gift ve clottey, pac vs marquez
and for the other dude your just and idiot i agree with you who knows cotto may of cought floyd with a good shot and win but the chances of that happen is veryyyy low floyd never even been knocked down.
-- the 17-0 patriots will kill the NY Giants.
-- there is NO WAY the sf giants can win the World Series.
-- no way James Kirkland loses to a Japanese fisherman.
guess what, people have bad training camps, personal problems, injuries, lucky punches, etc. sh1t happens.
and your point is cotto may get lucky and win?.... still dont change the fact floyd will kill 99 out of 100.
If Cotto, Margarito, Mosley or Pac took long vacations and came back every now and then, while Floyd went up against them, what would you be saying about the vacationing fighter? I imagine negative things.
And how much would you be praising Floyd? I imagine a lot.
I agree that Floyd would win against them all. And in my opinion, they would be comfortable wins.
But that doesn't excuse not fighting them and playing out a fantasy match instead. As others have commented, you may as well not have the sport if that's the approach you want to take.
And boxing isn't only about winning. There's a reason for the respect fans have for Morales, Hopkins and so on, despite their losses. You're getting wrapped up in Floyd beating X.
this is the best post ive heard on this site i agree with you 100% just my argument is these so call boxing fans claim cotto is the greatest of all time pac is the best fighter he would kill mayweather. they must be clueless or jus dumb and one person said he fought mosely when he was shot, mosely in his 30's like mayweather also mosely just cam off that great win vs margarito.and they must of forgot mosely wanted to fight pac first and pac decline the fight.also like i said cotto hid and ducked fighters allllll the time.
mayweather took time off b/c he makes it clear he dont want to fight 4 times a year he dont want any long term injures eazy for people to talk when its not there head getting knocked around. they all great fighters but talk with facts.:bukkake:
gotta realize why take a big risk and fight marquez or khan also bradley if you can make 20mil fighting cotto then 23mill vs clottey and on and on. why risk the L and take less money and start over. dats why most likley this will be his last fight dats the reason why he's willing to fight marquez after all these years
look @ how he got a second wind against chad dawson. it's cuz he was winning or had a chance 2 win.
jean pascal don't have stamina issues. f he was kicking B-HOP's ass i guarantee u he wuda had more pep n his step. the only thing he was tired from was getting his ass kicked.
what he lost to b hop b/c he was tired he won the first couple of rounds hopkins didnt get tired at all. and it seems like pascal gets a pep b/c thats just normal fighters get tired
no way roy jones and all his other fight they didnt get gas b/c b hop punch them tired whens the last time he had a ko or a tko lets b real those drugs do wonder for the body.46year old cmon lmao he fighting better then he was younger
http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/ap_photo/20110522/all/l5217795.jpg
When a 46 year old does this to psyche you out you know you got problems
Dude fights for around 4-5 rounds then his exhausted. Why do people here think this is? Is he cutting corners in camp etc etc ?
he dosent take drugs like other fighters ... hopkins....
Mayweather did that and he did it at a full 147 pounds so lets keep it real. Ortiz was not the next best option someone like Bradley or someone like Martinez are more competitive fights than Ortiz who got beat by a bum called Maidana. Don't let his win over Berto fool you he is a crap fighter.
no matter what he does you wont be happy why, pacman didnt fight bradley and martinez better yet why he didnt fight yuri forman your jus wayyyyy to bias and your opinion is worthless.
they both have great matchup in similar timing of each other so hopefully and im hoping pac vs floyd 2012
Pac signed to fight the fat, old lightweight so Floyd picked the next best option.
.... what..... both have great fights ahead just cant wait to see victor get killed b/c he haves to take a random drug test and im 100% sure he used ped for that andre berto fight.Also its payback floyd and berto good friends
great thread people need to wake up. not saying u cant like pacman but realize he uses drugs just one problem u was bias because floyd uses drugs to. for his hands and who knows what he used months b4 the fight just b/c he wanted to do a 14day random drug test dont mean nothing he just knows pacman need it more to withstand that weight.
So how does ped's help pac within 7 days when the training starts to get light shadow boxing mitts etc?
the weight theres countless p.e.d some gain muscle mass some lose weight and and keep the weight off some do both and more. jus depends on what you take but im sure thats what it is the weight
Anabolic steroids dont really work in boxing because you need to maintain weight, and even if you are going up in weight you only jump up about 7-10 pounds at the most.
HGH has never even shown that it has any athletic benefits other then converting fat into muscle.
EPO may be the only PED that I could see making a difference because it would increase stamina.
Now I'am no authority on PEDs but I have had a couple research projects that I did on PEDs.
Clenbuterol is one that helps big time with weight endurance and power. im sure theres more.
Like I said all that is physical and if PED helps all fighters to provide a better fight specially for us then let them use them.But most of the time game plans win!!!
gameplan dont mean crap if im stronger faster and have better endurance theres no way u can win let me repeat faster stronger and better endurance this is not chess go play chess if you think gameplan will overcome strength speed and endurance you must of never boxed before
also floyd ingects his wrist so all the pac hater look at your fighter to
Were you against better testing before or after Manny was against it? It seems to me all Pac supporters were against it only when Manny turned it down because I can't find post of Pacfans against better testing when Roach said they had agreed to it the first time before the phobias and suppersitions and stuff.
i look at it like this pac should fight when mayweather stops ingecting his wrist. and mayweather should fight pac when he takes the test
People always talk **** about fighters using PEDs,Steroids and whatever else.Now I don't condone them just for the simple fact that they make up better physically but not your game plan or performance.I know plenty of guys that use them and have the worst record in the world or best example look at Vargas against Oscar Delahoya.He just got an ass woooping all steroid up so don't be to fast to judge fighters about cheating specially when the drug is a dilutant or to construct your torn tissues!!
this gotta be a joke...? the whole purpose of p.e.d is to make you better its in the name... just so happen vargas sucked just think what would of happen if he didnt take p.e.d never thought of dat.
Actually they do help.......they help in every sport, that's why they are banned. The literature on PED use in sport is very clear......they are called performance enhancers for a reason.....they enhance performance.
Doesn't mean you are going to win or it's going to turn you into a master boxer, but they will increase your ability to train more and training more is how you get better, increase stamina, increase power. Just because a fighter because you lose doesn't mean it's right that you lasted 10 rds instead of 5 and you hit the other guy more times than you otherwise could have if clean.
finally theres someone smart he understands
If you ask someone to take tests it sounds like you are very very impressed with them and don't think you have what it takes to get the job done to me.
not at all you wanna know if ya both have a fair chance if someone can throw 1400 punches with power and speed and still be fine and can train longer and better then you because hes taking something that your not. thats a bit unfair dont you think not because your impressed it just makes you wonder.And they dont thinks they can get the job done why else will they go thru with it. And it sad because its a domino effect if u take it then i have to take it to have a chance.
they are forced if you wann feed your family blc if u lose and its not a good fight they dont have to pay you also you wanna win so you can keep wining and feed you family even better.if they told you if u win u get 1 mill and your next fight u will get 2 mill.but if you lose you get 300k and next fight 25k.what would you do
easy sports dat want attention we got the biggest baddest athletes watch us. football just about everyone use steroids. wrestling you see how big they are nba lebron and others howard. baseball bonds, mcguire they was jus unlucky and got cought b/c of ex baseball players. Also the mangers and players know they use jose conceco admited to it.
u mean thos fake b.s p.e.d like nox edge dat read proprietary blend and lil of this and a lil of that im talking about real p.e.d like Clenbuterol,Anavar,steriods
because he feels like he can win it was a good fight wasnt a blow out and he feels even with the drugs he will still win. And hes doing this to hype the fight. what p.e.d is legal only the one dat cant be found in test ala victor conte one of nonito donaier trianer. cough dats another one dat make me wonder still a fan but now he can knock everybody out...
It shows more about your own self belief than what you think about your opponent when you start wanting to know out of nowhere, if you disagree fine but Pascal if really cares and is not just putting on a show has to have some motivation and that comes from him no one else. Someone could be on something but if you were confident in yourself I tend to think you would be focused on what you were doing and 100% sure you are going to win while nothing your opponent would do can matter.
Its a losers attitude and he will lose because of it.
you must of not understood me if i can throw double your punch total and i can throw it faster and stronger how can u win maybe if u catch me with a lucky punch but dats about it.thats not fair so its a domino effect. u have to use drugs so u can match my punch total and speed and power so u can have a chance not saying u will win but this way it can be a good/fair fight. get it
haves nothing to do with my belief or motivation b/c i think i can beat you with my drugs and u will sign the fight and use drugs b/c you believe you can beat me with drugs. b/c i force you to use it. get it
p.e.d=anything that enhances your perfomance son..hense the name...hell viagra is a p.e.d.....
i know but im talking about illegal p.e.d what athlete take. viagra or nox edge are **** for athlete. you must of not understood me or jus trying 2 b funny.
Yeah because Bob Arum is such a truthful person. Everyone knows he hates MMA .
Of course Ali and Tyson are going to be attending a BOXING event. What are you retarded?
And lol @ Paris Hilton being an A-Lister.
Everyone knows Boxing is going to outdraw MMA more often. The sport has been around establishing itself for over 100 year. MMA hasn't even been around 1/4 of that amount of time.
If I were boxing I'd be a little embarrassed that boxing supposed biggest draw, was only able to draw 1.2-1.5, which isn't much more than the UFC's highest
selling PPV.
i rather see 2 people punching then two people rubing each other on the ground. there some fighters that are fun to watch (silva,bj,guida,chuck,rampage,hardy,machida) thats b/c they stand and box and some dont mind getting knocked out. and they cant even last 36min like in boxing. and there boxing skill are lacking.
best two are silva and bj.
Steroidgio Martinez beat a drunk drugged out Kelly Pavlik n then beat Paul Williams who obviously sucks-- and the internet sergiosexuals have declared him P4P KING???
can you imagine the epic sh1tstorm that would befall floyd mayweather or manny pacquiao if they were fighting someone like Barker the Goat Farmer??
your an idiot and pac is better? whos better then martinez everyone is scared to fight him and he said he will fight anyone nobody haves yet to challenge him. and look at how he dominates his opponents.thats why he is #2 he should be #1 but its all about the politics in boxing.
its gotta be sergio never seen so many people scared to fight somebody. then floyd he would be number 1 but right now sergio just looks like a monster right now then jmm he lost to floyd like it or not he lost
Then the right way is to ask the commission & ask for better Testing! Get some votes from every boxers & trainers & make a new set of testing!
But the Pusssy Floyd just accuse one fighter He never wants to fight! Then the court ask him to make statement about his accusations, then the Pusssy one ducked the court also!
Floyd could have made a Big statement & make a case for his cause in Front of the Federal court & for all Boxing world to see But He's scared to face the court coz he knows his antics was juat an act to duck Pac!
So I guess He rather Pay Pac Bigtime $$$ than to make a case for his so called cause!
commission wont do anything because blood test cost a lot more they rather not and he didnt just accuse one fighter he makes it clear if you wanna fight me you have to take a blood test b/c theres to many cheaters that use p.e.d. pac wants to fight so he gotta take blood test is that wrong?making sure both fighter are clean?and make a statment in court saying what.... i want pac to take a drug test so we can fight.oh also he was able to move 5 weight classes in 2 years and wreck his opponents.And he was stronger also faster then every before plzzzzz i want anybody to try that im sure the people who say its possible dont box.
Floyd need to STFU about PAC being on peds because the court has ordered him to prove to the world what a cheat PAC is and they can't seem to find him. The time is up for him to take the stand but he running like a coward. Take the stand Floyd.
how can floyd prove it its a hidden p.e.d that can only be detected by blood test look at shane mosely everyone knows he was using p.e.d why we know he admitted to it on tape. and its easy for you to say floyd should shut up about the drug test your not the one geting punch in the face. so if floyd a coward you must be and idiot.