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When a 46 year old does this to psyche you out you know you got problems
Dude fights for around 4-5 rounds then his exhausted. Why do people here think this is? Is he cutting corners in camp etc etc ?
For me the main problem is his muscular frame, he's way to bulky for his size and especially for boxing. Do you know why Heavyweights don't go throwing a lot of hard punches all night long? Well because they're just to heavy and muscular. They need to be extremely careful in terms of regulating their energy, that's why most of the times you don't see fights with lots of combinations in HW, their body just doesn't allow them to do it, they would completely gas out.
In Jean Pascal case, he's 5'10'' and 175 pounds on weight night, so he actually is over 180 pounds during fight night. He's not too tall but when you see him you see that he's too muscular, like he was training to be a body builder or something like that.
In boxer's case, they work out to get the maximum strenght and resistance they can get with the LESS possible muscle mass.
About the fiber types, I'm actually not so sure that's his problem. Type 2 fast twitch fibers would be very explosive and fast, he'll be only able to use them for a very short period of time, so I don't think he's actually using them all of the time. Most of the times when you have too much Fast Twitch fibers in your body you are actually pretty fast, Pascal is just not that fast.
Also let's remember that Pascal as a boxer should train using mainly bodyweight exercises and should be doing regular running and rope jumping. That training is mainly used to develop endurance, which actually means slow twitch fibers, so even if his body has more % of fast twitch fiber than slow twitch, he should be able to mantain his rythm a little longer before getting too tired.
The other main problem with Pascal and I believe the most important, he just has a bad strategy. Instead of throwing extremely hard combinations every 30 seconds, he should be using regularly his jab and then using 1-2 or 1-1-2 to hit his opponent. That way he should have a better boxer economy instead of throwing away all his energy in the first rounds when the other boxer is not tired yet and is able to move away from his punches.
What does that mean in terms of stamina?
True. I also remember him fading against Froch. Back then people thought it was due to the struggle of him making weight, but now I'm not so sure
I agree. He looks to be a very very athletic guy, but he has alot of muscle for a lhw and the more muscle you have the quikcer it freezes up in a fight. As others have listed he seems to load up with every single punch he throws and if you miss a few then from first hand experience it is very exhausting. I wonder if he is tense when fighting? He looks awesome for the first 5 rounds or so but then fades pretty quick. I like watching him fight though, always in exiting fights for sure.
What does that mean in terms of stamina?
There are 2 types of fast twitch muscle fibres....
Type 2a and Type 2b...
Type 2a are oxidative and possess great contractions speeds (resulting in faster movements) and also are tolerant to fatigue..they have alot of mitochondria..many blood capillaries and large amounts of myoglobin, also breaks down ATP rapidly...helping them to be ideal for most sport athletes
Type 2b are fast glycolytic
Contain few mitochondria, few blood cappillaries and have a low myoglobin count, but they break down ATP very quickly, resulting in the fastest contractions....the only problem is they fatigue easily compared to Type 1 and Type 2a
I just said this off the top of my head as This was 1 of the questions in my exam :D
haha
I dunno if pascal actually has Fast Twitch fibres (Type 2b) Maybe he just doesnt do enough for his anaerobic system
His bulk can't help. A lot of O2 and blood being fed to those muscles.
Also, he really doesn't have any flow to his style. Tense defense, flurry, tense defense, flurry.
No what its is he has too much muscle. It takes alot of oxygen to feed those muscles. Thats why its very rare you see a real muscular fighter who is champion. They maybe cut and lean with smooth muscles but not ripped. The only way it would work if you start out young and work your way up. Look in the past champions that was ripped. For example look at Evander Holyfield. If you look at Evander's past fights especially at haeavyweight you would see that Evander fights in spurts. He'll throw combinations for about 20-30 seconds then he would bounce and rest and go back to the jab or he'll cover up and let the oppponent hit him. What about Shannon Briggs? If it was a 3 round fight he would still be undefeated. He blames it on his asthma, but its not. I have asthma and I ran track and was in the Army. As long its control he'll be fine. It's those excessive muscles thats slowing him down and using up all of his oxygen. Now Ken Norton was the exception. He worked on his body since he was in high school. But he wasn't bulky. At 6'3" and 215-220 it was a good size for him, so he wouldn't gas out and can still fight a full 15 rounds.
no way roy jones and all his other fight they didnt get gas b/c b hop punch them tired whens the last time he had a ko or a tko lets b real those drugs do wonder for the body.46year old cmon lmao he fighting better then he was younger
look @ how he got a second wind against chad dawson. it's cuz he was winning or had a chance 2 win.
jean pascal don't have stamina issues. f he was kicking B-HOP's ass i guarantee u he wuda had more pep n his step. the only thing he was tired from was getting his ass kicked.
what he lost to b hop b/c he was tired he won the first couple of rounds hopkins didnt get tired at all. and it seems like pascal gets a pep b/c thats just normal fighters get tired
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When a 46 year old does this to psyche you out you know you got problems
Dude fights for around 4-5 rounds then his exhausted. Why do people here think this is? Is he cutting corners in camp etc etc ?
he dosent take drugs like other fighters ... hopkins....
Lots of explosive bursts of high energy activity, fades when asked to sustain that energy over a longer period of time. Basically think sprinter versus middle distance runner.
thanks for this
What does that mean in terms of stamina?
Lots of explosive bursts of high energy activity, fades when asked to sustain that energy over a longer period of time. Basically think sprinter versus middle distance runner.
Its because even though he doesnt punch that hard he puts EVERYTHING into almost every punch. Especially when he flurries. Hopkins told him the truth he needs to learn how to be patient and set up punches. hed be a much better fighter.
http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/ap_photo/20110522/all/l5217795.jpg
When a 46 year old does this to psyche you out you know you got problems
Dude fights for around 4-5 rounds then his exhausted. Why do people here think this is? Is he cutting corners in camp etc etc ?
With Hopkins, tis pushup thing could be that he wanted to get debris on his gloves. I've never seen or heard of him ever before doing pushups during a fight. This huge display of extra energy seems very unusual to me, since by mid fight or before, for years now, he has been tired and only fought in spurts, faking low blows to get a breather and etc........
There must be some sort of problem because after the first fight against Hopkins i can imagine them working very hard on his stamina in the second fight but he gassed out again....
Pascal isn't a puncher, but he tries to be by putting everything into his flurries. And he's got too much footwork for a guy who's not a skilled boxer. Too much wasted motion and forced power shots drains his energy. He'll get KO'd if he ever fights a durable puncher.
he loads up on everything that can't help putting so much energy in throwing those bombs he also moves way out of punching range and then has to move so far forward to get close to attack he burns his legs out maybe
He looks like he's got Jermain Taylor disease: too many fast twitch muscle fibres.
What does that mean in terms of stamina?
Plus he's way too bulky for his frame. I doubt there's much he could do to improve that.
True. I also remember him fading against Froch. Back then people thought it was due to the struggle of him making weight, but now I'm not so sure
He looks like he's got Jermain Taylor disease: too many fast twitch muscle fibres. Plus he's way too bulky for his frame. I doubt there's much he could do to improve that.