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Hello folks, It has been awhile but I just wanted to swing through and share this Pacquiao highlight I put together in my free time. Big fight coming up and hopefully this adds to the anticipation for fans of Manny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKariIphS_o

@ 4:50 Corley got laid the fukk out. http://www.jaksplace.com/ours/Kath/Images/black%20jesus%20on%20the%20cross.jpg chop chop dat you?

A May/Shane video I cut this past week in anticipation of the fight. There are already several on youtube but I haven't seen any threads here with vids for this fight. :boxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPGuA-o_4WY Fixed audio!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1201576/ This looks pretty damn good. Even though I know the general story of Ouma, his upbringing and his rise through the ranks of boxing (of which I know more in depth) I'd like to see this. I want to get some BS member opinions though. Thanks.

I was checking out f i g h t n e w s rankings for a bit and looked at the 140 pound division rankings. Laughter ensued: http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=249042 Sounds like an android boxer from the year 2209. http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=25802&cat=boxer I dunno why but this made me :lol1: What a bum.... http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=384101&cat=boxer DOODOO!!! Some other favorites are pretty well known....the Terdsak, Tyson Fury and Olshusfydang Sthkwitchaminiwakdhdhsfdhfhsdafh. Any others that I haven't discovered? What are some other hilarious names?

Williams is huge. The guy has the size to make it up to Light Heavyweight and possibly beyond. I don't know how successful he'd be against the top fighters at 168, 175 and cruiser, but his height and frame would allow for him to move up. Guillermo Jones is now a successful Cruiserweight title holder but he started his career at Welterweight. He is the same size as Williams but has lesser reach. He has beaten guys like Wayne Braithewaite, Kelvin Davis and (most recently) Firat Arslan. Paul seems like he takes a great shot and he has an awesome work rate. Could any of you see him succeeding at very high weights like Light Heavyweight or Cruiserweight? I don't think it's out of the question, especially considering Jones has already shown it can be done. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gVTcF42Vq1zd/610x.jpg That's Jones after beating Arslan.

I'm working on a project in a video graphics class and I need some HQ images of Pacquiao. I need photos of him professionally and personally. I'm creating a mini-biopic detailing Pacquiao the man, the boxer, the superstar. I'd appreciate anything I could get. Thanks.

Can anybody hook me up with a nice gif of Cotto hurting Jennings with that double/triple left hook last night or whatever? You can have as many points as you want for it. Thanks.

This thread is always beat to death, but often times I see people just throw names out there who don't necessarily deserve the title of being "underrated". A few names which come to mind for me: Michael Watson Ike Quartey Esteban DeJesus For a good period of time, these men were among the very best fighters in the sport or in their respective weight class. Watson was able to largely outbox Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank before the tragic events of their second fight. He probably should have gotten the nod against Eu their first go around and he was on his way to winning their second before getting caught with some ridiculous shots. Watson also gave a spirited effort against another severely underrated boxer in Mike McCallum, before fading late and suffering a vicious knockout loss. Watson was a fine boxer who possessed great skill, toughness and focus in the ring. Many don't remember just how good he was for quite some time there. Quartey inspired me to make this thread. The guy was as good as any other Welterweight (yeah Trinidad and De La Hoya) at his best. I feel he actually beat Oscar and Forrest, but that's another story. From '93-'96 he was a scary opponent for any Welterweight throughout history. He could win fights on his jab and physical strength alone (Jung Oh Park and Phillips for example). He often walked through his opponent with his ramrod jab and a chopping right hand behind it. He also possessed a strong left hook which he'd use upstairs and down. Too bad inactivity and inconsistency plagued his career. He was a hall of fame type of fighter. DeJesus was the first man to beat Duran. He beat him in his prime. That right there tells you what type of fighter DeJesus was. He later captured the Lightweight crown but never quite returned to the form which saw him outbox the great Duran. At his best he was a GREAT Lightweight, a fighter who could have thrown hands with any other great Lightweight throughout history. The events at the end of his life were quite sad, but he should be remembered for the great champ he was.

Arturo Gatti is the consummate "blood and guts" warrior of our era. The guy has been involved in as many wars as any other fighter I can think of. Along they way he managed to become a pretty good fighter as well, with a style that evolved several times. Career highlights: 40 (31) - 9 - 0 Record IBF Super Featherweight Champion WBC Light Welterweight Champion Wins over Jesse James Leija, Gabriel Ruelas, Tracy Harris Patterson Participated in Ring Magazine Fight of the Year 4 times Forgive me if I missed anything. Gatti could brawl and box pretty well. He had a ton of heart, a solid chin and a good left hand which could take his opponents out in an instant. Gatti left everything he had in the ring and was somewhat of an overachiever as a result. He was never in a boring fight. His signature performances against Gabriel Ruelas, Wilson Rodriguez and Micky Ward show what he's all about. _______________________________________________________ Mark Johnson is a fighter who has gotten significantly less press than Arturo Gatti because of his smaller stature and the fans disinterest with the smaller weights. This is unfortunate because Johnson was an excellent fighter. "Too Sharp" was a fitting nickname because his sharp punches were often too much for his opponents. Career highlights: 44 (28) - 5 - 0 (1NC) IBF Flyweight Champion 2 Time Super Flyweight Champion (IBF and WBO) Wins over Vorapin, Fernando Montiel and Jorge Lacierva First black fighter to capture Flyweight and Super Flyweight titles (I believe) Johnson was a pretty complete boxer. Two handed power, good jab, defense, ability to punch in combination, etc. He was pretty much always the smaller man in his fights, but that didn't stop him from accomplishing his goals. After a couple of disputed point deductions cost him his first fight with Rafael Marquez, he was stopped by Marquez in their second bout. In a remarkable comeback, after a year layoff, he came back and defeated a younger, stronger champion in Fernando Montiel. _______________________________________________________ So after all of that, who do you think is more deserving of a spot in the Hall of Fame. Let's say there was only one spot left, who should get in? Discuss.

Who wins this colossal Heavyweight showdown right now?

Who do you think deserves the distinction. There have been some great fighters throughout history with 40 or fewer fights. These guys haven't proven themselves against a high quantity of opponents, but often times they have defeated quality opposition and have achieved great things. If you think of someone I might have missed, explain who and why they were the best fighter overall. I'm talking fighting ability and accomplishment-wise. Jeff Fenech Aaron Pryor Floyd Mayweather Jr (assuming he stays retired) Vicente Saldivar Jeff Chandler Antonio Esparragoza Ray Leonard Michael Spinks etc I'm pretty sure that's accurate, so who is it?

punching air with the action, going out of your mind, flipping out with excitement..........what fight made you respond like that? For me it was Toney/Jirov. I think that was one of the craziest conclusions to a fight with the action, crowd and announcing team going apeshit. I was doing all of the above. "HIT HIM! HIT HIM! FUCK!"....shit I was shouting like crazy. Just a brilliant performance by James and a courageous performance by both men. I have never heard Manny Steward so animated. Anyway, what fight(s) made you lose your marbles?

Joan Guzman or Yuri Gamboa? Two similarly skilled, built, tempered fighters. Which one of these guys do you think will have a better career overall when all is said and done? Consider: Quality of opposition Quality of wins Length of career Number of achievements Consistency Even though they are at completely different spots in their careers, I think this is a valid discussion...so discuss.

Anybody down to throw some fake loot on this weekends B.A.D. fights? Three pretty interesting fights between up and coming fighters. My picks are: Yuriokis Gamboa vs Darling Jimenez James Kirkland vs Eromosele Albert Alfredo Angulo vs Richard Gutierrez 45K per fight should be good. Or I can split em up if we have multiple takers. I think Gamboa will pass this test, although Jimenez was able to score a bit of an upset over another prospect/contender in Anchondo. Gamboa is getting serious hype and I think his talent alone should be enough to get him through this fight. Athleticism, hand speed and power can get you to a world title (Jermain Taylor). I'm taking the upset in the second match. I haven't seen Albert fight, but I'm aware that he defeated Daniel Edouard and Yory Boy Campas. He is bigger than Kirkland and I suspect he is stronger inside as well. Last I saw from Kirkland was the Conyers fight and Conyers, a taller, longer opponent, had Kirkland hurt. The third fight might be the best action fight of the three. Gutierrez is a rough dude who throws hard to the body. He gave Josh Clottey a good fight and later slapped around a shopworn Teddy Reid. I know Angulo carries a big punch, especially in the right hand, and has little defense to speak of. This should be a slug fest. I'm taking the more experienced Gutierrez to upset the Mexican Olympian prospect.

tonight for any night owls like myself who are interested. The banter between Conando and Wlaseline should be humorous.

or Hopkins beats Calzaghe, will that affect how you rank these guys historically with regard to each other? Will you be inclined to say that Calzaghe was a hands down better fighter if he beats Hopkins? Will your opinion stay the same as it was before because of Hopkins advanced age? If Nard wins will you conversely say that he is/was in a different league than Yosef? Discuss...:sombrero:

great boxers who have small fists? My grandfather made it a point to tell me that all great boxers have big fists when I was young. Looking at the picture of AS and Sechew Powell produced this thread. Powell's hands are massive. Even though Powell isn't a great boxer, it made me think.

What's yours? After just getting home to catch Morales/Pacquiao I again I'd have to say that is mine. I remember there was the huge build up to the fight on this site. Crazy amounts of shit being talked on both sides. The Pacquiao support was at an all time high then and there was so much damned anticipation for the clash. The fight (from an action stand point) for sure didn't let either side down. The best part of that fight was when Erik turned southpaw and just fucking slugged it out with Manny. Erik is a fucking beast like that though. Who else in boxing would do that type of shit against one of the most dangerous fighters on the planet (answer being no one). That moment is why Morales is one of the very best fighters of our time. Had it not been for Castillo/Corrales I that would have been the best fight of 2005, along with Cotto/Torres. Anyway, I don't think I have ever gotten as much satisfaction out of a fight on this site. Just talking shit about who was going to win was amusing. So what have you?

I gotta bring this up again. Simply one of the most beautiful performances ever given in the ring. Pernell Whitaker schooled Greg Haugen to the point where Haugen couldn't even find the will to punch in the second half of the fight. Haugen was a GOOD, tough as nails, blue collar fighter who was an accomplished 2 time champion by the time he fought Pernell. Haugen had a great work ethic in his prime, but there are very few who could hang with a peak Whitaker: That guy beats any other lightweight in the history of the sport. Bold, a bit biased even...but god damn was he a special fighter or what? Then end of the fight is the best. Pea would stand in front of you and would make you miss 4/5 punch combinations with the slightest movements.

Donaire KO5 Darchinyan At this point is has to be that picture perfect left hook counter by Donaire. I'd say that Ledesma KO5 Stark is right there too, but Darchinyan was a higher profile victim. Here's Ledesma/Stark: Here's Donaire/Darchinyan: Both were brutal one punch knockouts. EDIT: Here's Wilson/Nwodo:

WBC interim lightweight champion Joel Casamayor, whom many including Fightnews.com rank as the world's #1 135-pounder, announced today he is willing to move up in weight and challenge IBO 140-pound champion Ricky Hatton or Floyd Mayweather. "I have waited patiently for all these so-called lightweight 'champions' to fight me," says Casamayor. "I challenged Juan Diaz at the Freitas fight, but he is hiding behind his promoter's skirt. I'm running out of patience waiting for this boy to grow into a man. Ricky Hatton says he wants big fights. I'll give up the weight and fight him. Floyd Mayweather says he wants big fights. I'll give up the weight and fight him – at any weight." "I respect Hatton, I respect Mayweather," says Casamayor. "I believe they are men, that they will fight. These other boys, these phony champions, they hide behind their managers and promoters and duck me. Since when does a true world champion have to chase his challengers? These other lightweights who have belts, they should be ashamed to call themselves champions." Casamayor is currently mandated to fight the winner of the Aug. 4 Erik Morales-David Diaz match. Casamayor says he will fight either man, but added there is no guarantee that the winner will simply duck him, as others have since his October win over Corrales. "I will fight anyone," emphasized Casamayor. "I gave up five pounds and beat Corrales. I'll do the same with Hatton. I'll give up any weight for Mayweather – let him name it. I am not going to go away. I'm a real fighter – a real champion – and I know someone will accept this challenge." Even though Casamayor has slowed down a lot and probably can't keep up with these guys anymore, I'd love to see a Hatton/Casamayor fight and/or a Casamayor/Mayweather fight. I can't envision the Casa/Floyd fight coming off in any way, but it was a fight that really should have been made way back in 2000/2001 when Joel was the WBA champ and Floyd held the WBC championship. That would have been a hell of a tactical battle. I found Casamayor's comments on Juan Diaz humorous too. You gotta love Joel, he's still on the grind.

I've got Hatton straight up. Anybody want to take Castillo? Any amount you want to bet is fine, just post it in this thread, I always pay my bets.

Ice, I see that your guy Jose Rivera is slated to take on Daniel Santos in September, coming off that tough loss to Travis Simms. Santos is a tough fighter who has been around the block. How are you going to tell Jose to attack the bigger, southpaw Santos after Jose just struggled so badly with Simms, another bigger, slick southpaw? Secondly, how did Mike Oliver get the nickname "Mike Mike"...? I feel like I have heard people refer to him in that way. Thanks.

Someone give me the run down on this fella. I'd do my own research but I'm a lazy American. I have seen people calling him a personality, calling him a world class fighter, saying he's among the elite of the 168 pound weight class. So what's his deal? Will I be watching him decapitate people on television soon or is Froch just a prospect with promise? Danke.

Some of you don't seem to understand what this fucking word means. I have now seen garbage like: "Miguel Cotto will be exposed by a pure boxer with a great chin and blah blah" "I think GATTI hits too hard for him at 147.I believe HATTON will be exposed against CASTILLO IF HE actually fights,like he caims,and doesn't HOLD all night." "Woods would get murdered by dawson, (Glen) Johnson would probably get exposed also." World class fighters, as Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, and Glen Johnson have proven to be, CANNOT be exposed. That's just a complete misuse of the word. Hatton and Cotto have both beaten other world class fighters, have won titles in several weight classes, and have proven that they can fight on a high level. Glen Johnson has beaten pretty much every top fighter in his weight class...Roy Jones, Ulrich, Tarver, Griffin, Woods, Harding, etc. Examples of exposed fighters: 37-0 Marty Jakubowski being beaten senseless by JC Chavez. Jakubowski lost to every decent fighter he faced...while sporting a gaudy 100+ win record. The Predator was undefeated with 30+ wins over NOBODIES when some fuckin guy knocked his head off. He was struggling with guys like Sam Garr before that and he has since gotten gift decisions over an ancient Yory Boy Campas and he got slapped by Bonsante. (also see: Hector Camacho Jr, Michael Grant...) Lets get it together now people.

"If it was a bigger fight, I would have been more motivated," admitted heavyweight James Toney after his sluggish split decision win over Danny Batchelder on Thurdsay night in San Jose. Toney, who wants to fight again in late June or early July, gave himself a D+ for the fight and vowed to drop some weight for his next couple bouts. The 38-year-old, who fought at 229 pounds, didn't reach his goal of weighing about 217 for this fight, his first since back-to-back losses to Samuel Peter. He joked that his wife, who earlier this week gave birth to the couple's sixth child, had something to do with it. "I had my wife's eating habits," said Toney, who added that he fought injury-free for the first time in two years. "I ain't done," said Toney. "I just looked that way." -FN I wish I could believe him. Bunch of excuses and avoiding the reason he's really in decline. If he's struggling with Danny Batchelder then he's gonna have problems. I hope he doesn't seek out anyone much better than Jirov at this point (who is also a shell of his former self). Like someone said in another thread though...maybe it'll take someone knocking his head off for him to wise up and call it quits.

Manny was fuckin fired up, giving the most accurate, rudimentary, GED level advice to Taylor but his fighter wouldn't listen. Steward won some major respect from me tonight. I haven't seen him that animated since the 12th round of Toney/Jirov! Emmanuel Steward gave the best effort tonight hands down.

A couple of my favorite were: #1 - Pernell Whitaker pulling down Roger Mayweather's trunks late in their fight after Roger's trunks were already falling down. Shit...that whole fight was hilarious. Pea decked the ref too. #2 - O'Neil Bell kissing Mormeck in their second fight along the ropes. Bell had me rolling when Mormeck hit him with that low blow and Bell dramatically fell over like it was the most painful thing in the world. Bell was fucking hilarious in that fight. #3 - Anything this guy does is bizarre. 2:14 of this clip is priceless. Hits him with the robot wind up punch.

Darchinyan-Montiel June 9? Monday, April 9 2007 By Ray Wheatley -- World of Boxing IBF flyweight champion Vic Darchinyan is confident of victory in a proposed fight against Fernando Montiel for the WBO super flyweight title on June 9. Vic also says talks are currently taking place for a clash with power puncher Jorge Arce in November. "I will fight Fernando Montiel on June 9 for WBO super flyweight title," Darchinyan said. "I have defeated his brother Alejandro a few years ago. Fernando is much stronger and more skillful but I will knock him out when we fight. I will punish him. My promoter Gary Shaw and Top Rank's Bob Arum are negotiating for me to fight Arce in November. I am looking forward to fighting Arce – he is very strong fighter. I can see mistakes Arce makes in the ring. A big mistake is fighting me. I am the stronger puncher. I will stop him before ten rounds." Vic is also very happy that recent IBF challenger Victor Burgos has been released from intensive care. "It was a big relief that Victor is out of intensive care," stated Darchinyan. "He was a courageous boxer. I think his cornerman should of stopped the fight earlier. The referee did a good job." fightnews ----------------------------------------- Pretty good fight. I'd take Darchinyan to pound out a decision, but Montiel would make it interesting. If Darchinyan beat Montiel and then went on to beat Arce in the fall he'd definitely have to be considered one of the 7-10 best fighters in the world. Then imagine him moving up to 118...taking on dudes like Jhonny Gonzalez and the like. What do you guys think of this fight though.