It only takes one time to get pregnant and that one time,
could be the first time.
it only take one time to get pregnant but how many times did she get f*cked before she got pregnant huh?
it like when my moms caught me skipping class and i tried to sell her the b.s. that it had been my first time
and the reason Margarito should be banned is simple, he had the intent to do damage. I hate the fact that cotto's people failed to do a better job when Marg's hands were being wrapped. therefore, there is no physical evidence other than Cotto's face and the pic with the coloring on the handwrap right after the fight was stopped. but the fact that he tried to do it to Mosley i more than enough. If a person attempts to kill another person and fails, he is still prosecuted to the fullest extent of the la and that is what needs to be done here. What would've happened if Mosley's people failed to discover that Mag was cheating or found out afterwards, if Marg had done to Mosley the same as Cotto. And anyone who believes that Marg was unaware of the substance on his glove is an idiot, ust like Mosley was unaware of the cream he used , its total b.s.
The first time. Its happened millions of times throughout history.
exactly, so what's your point now, huh? it is very much likely that when margarito got caught he had done it at least once before, if nothing else you can admit to that much right?
It is a whole other world but regardless of all the other points outside of the mosley fight nothing is proven. I know what I think about Margo but the bottom line is can they definitively prove he cheated outside of his camp's attempt in the mosley bout - if there is proof ban him for life. Otherwise unfortunately the "slap of the wrist" issued has been satisfied and completed.
i sort of see your point, but just the thought of the Cotto fight and i amalmost sure he cheated
Simple and obvious. Resto caught after a bout (damage done). Margarito caught before bout (no physical damage done). Does that make it ok? No. Could the result have been just as bad or worse. Sure but he needs to punished (and was) for what his camp actually DID not for what didn't happen.
I'm no longer a Margo fan but I would like to see Cotto Margo II
Restos did the crime and paid the time and Margarito committed maybe a lesser crime, (see margarito vs cotto) but a slap on the wrist is hardly addressing the issue. he might just damga what could've been an incredible carrer in that of Miguel Cotto and who knows how many others. Cintron was quoted as saying that he's never been hit that hard. When rinidad was acussed of wrapping his hands illegally I felt shame and although I loved the fighter he was I always said that his power was suspect since that episode, but plaster in your gloves is a whole other world
I think IMDAZED is on something... who can possibly debate this BS day in and out all day long?
Wtf are you on, son?
oh man you roy jones on your profile, i must say one of the most gifted fighters ever, however when he said "ya'll must of forgotten" i don't think he ever showed us. fighting from mailmans to firemen to cops to pastors it got ridiculous man
Pactards just making up lies to save their man.
:lol1:
When will it end?
sad thing is it won't end, the want their man to win that 8th at all cost or to defeat floyd which peds or no peds ain't gonna happen
Most puerto ricans cant afford HBO, so it had to be someone else watching it
you're an asshole and a racist so why were you watching a puerto rican fight
Why haven't you asked Bernard why they didn't fight?
And McClellan...? Really?
Come on, bud.
you ain't got my poin man! he was incredibly talented but he didn't do enough in my book. its sort of like Michael Nunn, had he been hungrier and more passionate we'd probably be talking about an all time great, you feel me?
exactly, who the f*ck doesn't know what they're takin, r is it that if we say he don't know and go on 24/7 and make such claims, when the sh*t hits the fan, pac didn't know what he was taking, pure bullsh*t
Thats the same waaa waaa who jumped out of the ring on purpose.
That :crying: has no credibility.
lmao... yes it is... unfortunately
i should've kept him out of my explenation
What's going on in his life or the universe?
youtube video; Manny Pacquiao on steroids The question must be asked, and answered properly..flv
please watch it, it's very informing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyk6LXXMFQ
youtube video; Manny Pacquiao on steroids The question must be asked, and answered properly..flv
please watch it, it's very informing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyk6LXXMFQ
Nah man. YOU musta forgot.
the dude was gifted as hell but a big waste of time, why aint he fight Hopkins atleast 5 years before they did?
too bad Geral McClelan wasn't around, too bad with his tragedy, i loved watching that kid now he was on his way to greatness and roy jones would've been a victim along the way
lets reverse this! what if floyd got penalized for elbow use and after the point deduction ortiz was the one to sucker punch floyd, i don't see how cortez even begins to count rather he would probably disqualify ortiz
what really sucks is that I paid $60 for the fight and floyd; always bragging about ppv buys and now i feel cheated and floyd you b*tch, You're making millions and you aint' paying my cable bill so the least i expect is for you to stay under control and whoop that ass but instead you chose to resort to the thug way and that's exactly why you are rich but never will be wealthy because for one, the way you are as a person, a disrespectful and ugly human being and two, for the way you worship money, make the money, but don't let the money make you, you ignorant bastard i hope pac knocks you in to retirement but i really doubt it because you are a great all around fighter but a poor excuse for a human being, just like when they put pitbulls to fight is the way you act, at this height of your carrer you should have grown up and know you cant change the world let alone how people want to perceive you but the older and more money you make the stupider you become and its down right embarassing. the way you spoke to your father, forget that it was televised. when your father is gone, then what? you probably don't care anyway, you said it, you're ok with or without him in your life. if you dont wake up, you will end up rich and alone and maybe even end up broke after all, remember you're a black man in this country and the black men that struggled and made it possible for you to live the life you do now did not have this kind of life in mind, now humble down, forget any tests and go get pac, cuz i know u can beat him
The ref said time but he never said time in and was looking away.....it was a sucker punch becaause mayweather pretended to embrace and proceeded to sucker punch him. The clock was still stopped when it all went down so how is that even legal?
I cannot see how any mayweather fan be proud of that "win". He is the scum of the sport and only ghetto monkeys like him will support this classless behavior, I'm beginning to think that 90% of NSB posters are either n1gg3rs or w1gg3rs.
u know what's worse, that ortiz took it like he was glad it was over and his corner didn't even have his back, remember when golota fouled bowe repeatedly? his corner got in there and protected their fighter, ortiz corner was content as was ortiz, cortez was looking away, no comments were made in regards to filing a protest, and all this happens when prior to the fight i questioned why take such a risky fight when pac and million$ are looming and sopeke of the corruption in boxing and said that floyd and pacs people would probably pay ortiz more than what he made to make it interesting yet lose, you never know but the last 30 seconds were really strange
Cotto aint been the same since the Margarito fight with te stone hands and when he fought Pacquiao that date; 11/14/09, that should have been Cotto's first fight since the loss to Margarito, but instead Arum pushed for it and Cotto fought margarito, jennings, Clottey and Pacquiao all within a 16 month span, all while receiving max punishment and damage and tat's why he's looked the way he has lately
If Pac fought Clottey @ a full 147 Welterweight then I doubt that they would make a lower catch weight if Cotto Pac 2 happens. It would be VERY low for Pac n his team to request a lower weight. I say that Cotto looked great @ 154, also he probably gained a bit of muscle so Id say make a 151 or 152 weigh in for Super Welter.
look for pac & arum to give Cotto a huge payday so that he accepts any demands such as catch-weight and Cotto will probably agree opening the doors to yet another beatdown which would kill me
you got a point but if the ref penalized ortiz who was already losing the fight, losing faith and probably getting k'od later on, why did floyd took advantage of a moment like that, he just lost a chance at people all around even larry merchant giving him credit for looking great
um Pac is too Afraid to fight Mayweather WITHOUT OST :lol1:
people are really confused man! i think floyd ducked fighters before his retirement and pac is on peds and they've both hanpicked certain opponents but that being said, mayweather is going to abuse pac and people will then say why did floyd make all that fuss if it was thi easy, but you still wanna fight on a level playing field
Let me tell you guys, Im a Puerto rican that lives in P.R. and dwell here, but its incredible how the people and the "supposed" fans can be such ASSHOLES and not admit that Cotto did a good job, meanswhile alot of people ouside here said Cotto looked good and sharped and improved well to what we had seen before. Im not talking about all Puertoricans, but the majority out here would love to see him lose and F*&^ed up. My personal opinion is that he looked Great to the cotto we saw against Pac and Clottey and that with some time and Stewart he can come back to being that great fighter that he was and IS!!!!!!
I agree, he looked good, better than most recent fights.
also, people say he looked bad against Clottey and took a beat, but lets remember that Cotto had knocked Clottey down and was looking really good and sharp until that big gash opened up over his eye and it was really difficult for him to see clearly, but yet he fought with a lot of heart and took punishment but he was a better man then Clottey, and that fight in essence was the fight that had him looking bad against Pacquiao along with the f*cked up catch-weight and the very big possibility that pac is on peds
i think bob needs to stop pitting his fighters against each other... i want to see some co-promotions.
i think cotto needs a few more fights against boxers... he needs to recoup and get a few more fights to tighten up his technique with steward.
cotto/martinez: no way, martinez too slick
cotto/p-will: p-will outworks miguel
cotto/cintron: good matchup
cotto/angulo: good matchup, i would rather angulo fight margs though
cotto/margs: no way... although revenge would be great
cotto/pac: still gets outclassed, no matter what weight
cotto/collazo: good matchup, safe but respectable
cotto/berto: good matchup, cotto takes berto to school
cotto/floyd: cotto gets outclassed, no need for another high profile loss
cotto's future looks good, im looking forward to his future dealings... hopefully bob doesnt F**K up with matchmaking
well said man, I agree also a fight agaist Corey Spinks would be good for Cotto, sort of like the Yuri fight; no great risk in terms of punching power from his opponent, more time to gel with Emmanuel Steward and definitely time to heal the bruises and cuts from previous fights
On one side I don't think than JCCJ is not ready for Cotto, but on another side we have been all complaining that JCCJ needs to setp up his competition so we can find out if he can match his hype.
However he is still young and can make up for a lost against a name like Cotto especially if he puts up a good fight, this is obviously ASSUMING he doesn't beat Cotto if they face each other.
It will be a decent payday though for both fighters!!!
yep, he needs to step up and fight real fights, i am sure Cotto will crush him but he's at a point where if he can't beat top fighters then he never belonged, just like i've been saying about Berto; before the mosley/Berto fight was cancelled, everyone kept saying he's not ready for a Mosley type, but come'on, he was gonna fight a Mosley that Cotto had beaten 2 and a half years earlier, so if Berto would've not get past Mosley, it would be clear that he's good but just not that good
He means he was runnign from pacquiao and still got chased down and KOed, had he traded he would have been asleep in 8.
i agree, although i'm a cotto fan, he had no choice but to run or get stopped, eventhough i strongly believe pac has been on peds since moving up to fight David Diaz and that has been his best weapon thus far
Everyone started suspecting then. His fans know it too, they just don't want the truth to come out. They've been hoping he can juice up well and good to take on Floyd. Look at Shane...such a shame.
that's the sh*t that gets me vexed over the sport. the big names in boxing should step in and take over, enforce what needs to be enforced and move on. but money runs the sport and its not going to change. i had my complaints about mayweather before but i'm with him all the way, i felt he handpicked some of his opponents but its smart business and the one big thin here is that there's no cheating involved, but Pac on pes and draining fighters along the way is getting glorified as a legend. can you imagine if instead of cotto across the ring that night it was a young Tommy Hearns, that's how much the sport has changed.
People continuously say that Mayweather only fights smaller and/or older fighters. Contrarily to this very popular belief that in fact 2 of his last 4 opponents have been bigger(Mosley, DLH) and although 3 of his last 4 have been older they had destroyed an opponent or just looked good in their previous fight (IMO). Unlike Pac’s previous opponents.
Pac's last 5 out of 6 opponents have been older and half of them looked like crap (Hoya, Clottey) or was "destroyed" (Cotto, Hatton) in their previous fight... Let’s also not forget that team Pac likes to have the "advantage" (wait isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for?) and drain there opponents. DLH was a zombie, Cotto was made to drop weight for his very own WW belt and if they would have fought Mosley, they wanted him to be "at least at 142-143" per Freddie Roach explained (yet now they want to fight at 154 for a belt?). Then again Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach stated that Mosley was "too good" and he also stated that "Pac wasn’t ready for a fighter like Mayweather". Shocker? Not really. So who’s ducking who? Who didn’t agree to the 14 day cut off then but now all of a sudden does when 14 days is not an option. Who's really afraid of losing?
So lets talk size. Why would Floyd "duck" a smaller fighter? According to Maywweather's haters, smaller fighters are his specialty. IMO Pacs too small in every aspect to beat Mayweather. He lacks the technical skills just as he did when he fought JMM (twice) and we know exactly how Mayweather can handle a much smaller technical fighter. What makes people think Pac will beat Mayweather so soundly when nobody has really come close. Especially someone of Pacs "little" size. Jose Luis Castillo doesn't count eitgher. He started out around 125 in the early 90's and hit 140's in 2001. He was a natural LW and he fought most of his career at LW. Which is the weight he fought and lost to Mayweather in (twice). If Floyd was afraid of losing he wouldn't have fought him the second time.
“Floyd Mayweather Jr is a sharpshooter and Manny Pac would eventually get shot down” - Larry Merchant
“You gonna have to punch with’em instead of keep waiting for a spot. You inside looking for a perfect shot. THERE IS NONE” - Richardson
"Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather" - Roach
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"The ball is now in Pac’s court" - Brian Kinney
The fight will get made and Pac will "give in" just like he flip flopped on the cut off dates. Excuses will not be tolerated from his camp.
Size will matter, skills will matter. Listen to Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach, he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't like the Mayweather fight one bit. Lets remember who trained Hoya when Mayweather beat him. Lets also remember who trained James Toney (twice) when he tested positive for steroids.
Team Pac has been shook from day one. This is just another day for Mayweather to talk his (money making) trash. Nothing is different. If people want to see Mayweather possibly beat you would be calling for a much bigger fighter in Sergio Martinez or P.WILL! Little Pac is not the man to do it.
i agree, 2 of the last fighters that mayweather fought, Marquez and Hatton, were smaller but yet agressive and mayweather countered them and dropped both of them as they charged in, it resulted in a ko and a lopsided victory. Pac is way superior to both right now and likely as a result of peds, however i believe that juice or no juice, if they fight, when it is said and done, Floyd will destroy Pacman and alot of people will be saying why all the fuss by floyd just to make it look this easy, but all floyd wants is to fight pac on a level playin field, and honestly i dont see how it is a level playing field.
WHOA nacho!!! LOL. since david diaz???? really?? enlighten me sir.
what makes you "strongly" believe this?
most people ripped on manny for fighting diaz... people claim manny ducked tougher fights @ LW to fight an "easy" diaz...
from my memory, diaz crumbled from the pressure & speed... its not like manny tossed diaz around like a ragdoll, diaz was solid... just outclassed.
like i said before, pac has been good, really good, but i've been watching boxing for so many years and i became supicious of pac way before i heard paulie or floyd sr. etc... voice their opinions. When suspicion arose from players like Bonds, Sosa, Palmeiro and McGwire they were somewhat guilty until proven innocent and they were indeed guilty, however, pac come over as a gentleman and an important man in the sport and most of all to his country and so anyone making such opinions is wrong for doing so, why wasn't it wrong when it came to Bonds, because of his arrogance?