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I didn't see shady. I saw Beltran realize that he could lose by straight KO around the same time he figured out that he was too far behind to win a decision. So he eased up hoping to make Crawford overcommit. Kills 2 birds w/one stone: reduces his chance of being KO'd while giving Terrence an opportunity to fvck up and hand him the fight. Just my .02 Good assessment.

I think Crawford is a very good fighter, but did any one of you think that Beltran let up in this fight? I saw him hurt Crawford, and back off for no reason sometimes. I still think TC wins against Broner. But that fight with Beltran was a little shady.

46. From Albuquerque NM. Watched Boxing with my Dad since I can remember, so I naturally started boxing at a young age. My first trainer was an old man at PAL boxing club named Charlie I don't remember his last name, but his assistant was Danny Romero Sr. I then joined Henrys Boxing club, and trained with Henry Anaya Jr, Johnny Tapia, Danny Almanzar, Tommy Cordova, and Many other great Albuquerque Amateur fighters of the day. That was a great time for NM boxing, and Boxing in general. Boxing is in my blood, and I still enjoy it immensely.

YOu smart?? then explain it to me in details why SR has better resume?? Did u see how Tszu beat up ur Idol??? Hatton that last 2 rds with Pac beat the same Guy! You need to watch Chavez's fights in his prime. Mayweather, Rosario, Ramirez, ect. You will see the most agressive, well defended, and brutally accurate fighter you have ever seen. The man was a true great. The DLH and Tzsu fights were at the end of his career. Pac deserves credit for getting better with age, but he would not come close to beating this beast, who was just a better all around fighter.

what about Frankie Randall? Randall was a top grade fighter, and Chavez was at the start of his decline. Chavez's prime was at least a few years before that.

Valero does not impress me at all.(power and some speed only). Demarco By TKO late.

Oscar jabbed Floyds head off the first half of the fight. I think if Shane trains to jab, He'll win, because Shane won't fade.

Accually sounds like a Floyd fight. Funny though.

Exactly. The body work of Canelo was totally awesome in this fight. The Body work was the difference in this fight. I would not be surprised if GGG has a broken rib. I thought the fight was about to end in the seventh or eighth, but to GGG's credit, he not only survived, he fought harder, and won some rounds. I still had the fight in Canelo's favor, but that guy made it a lot closer in the later rounds. GREAT FIGHT!!! Props to both Warriors!

Cortez really f.ucked Hatton I agree but Mayweather dominated what little inside action there was allowed anyway, but still. But we knew this, he lets Hopkins initiate 2.8 million clinches in the Calzaghe fight. He's a hometown ref. And bent as a crowbar. Cortez is very bad, and did screw him. But Hatton has benifitted by the same type of Hometown, onesided awful refereeing , his whole career. Just ask Kostya Tzyu, whom I thought could have won his fight with Hatton, if it was'nt for that worse than Cortez Referee, who let Hatton maul and braul to no end, but as soon as Kostya started doing the same thing, and getting the advantage, he broke them. So yes he got screwd, but not as bad as Kostya, since Kostya could of actally won.

When I watched the fight live, I saw it 8 round to 3 for Paquiao. I just watched the fight with no volume, and I hate to say it, but I had Bradley winning 115 to 113 like the judges. TO ALL REAL boxing Fans. Please watch this fight with no sound. You will see a different fight, I promise. And do your scoring before the highlights of each round, because they only show Pac's highlights. The Commentators, Crowd, Letterman, Compubox, and highlights, are all negative and misleading influences. Without sound you will see a very good fight, with the nod going to the busier fighter, or at least a much closer fight than you thought you saw.

When I watched the fight live, I saw it 8 round to 3 for Paquiao. I just watched the fight with no volume, and I hate to say it, but I had Bradley winning 115 to 113 like the judges. TO ALL REAL boxing Fans. Please watch this fight with no sound. You will see a different fight, I promise. And do your scoring before the highlights of each round, because they only show Pac's highlights. The Commentators, Crowd, Letterman, Compubox, and highlights, are all negative and misleading influences. Without sound you will see a very good fight, with the nod going to the busier fighter, or at least a much closer fight than you thought you saw. I meant 9 rounds to 3 for Pacquiao in the live event.

All Oscar should have done is ducked every good fighter after he beat Sweat Pea. People would call him great for beating up on a bunch of smaller fighters and retiring unbeaten. Oscar fought everybody. I wish other "all time greats" would have done the same. I agree 100%. PacMan is doing it, PBF has not done it yet , but JMM is a good start. Oscar did struggle in some big fights, but as you said, He fought everybody, No fighter then or now would have went undefeated with that group of opponents.

Floyd is the only one I would take off as he has retired. I would probably put up Vasquez or JMM. I agree with this post. Maybe Rafael also.

I don't know who Masoud is. But he won this fight. He landed the more accurate punches whereas Jose landed on gloves and arms mostly. The only clean shots he got were the body shots. But it wasn't enough to overcome all the head and body shots Masoud landed. Throwing loads of punches doesn't win a round. You have to land those punches. That's the difference. I watched the fight, and Jose hit Masoud more, and kept him on the defence. Even his corner thought he was not doing enough, and losing. This happens on every Hearn fight in the UK. He acts like he is surprised, but it keeps happening. He is not the only crooked promoter, but he is the most blatant, since King. Even crooked Arum mixes it up, so it doesn't look so bad.

Umm multiple weight champion, unified champion and had a long title reign. His resume is'nt the greatest, but his accomplishments can't be denied. He is more than worthy of the HoF. My feelings exactly. He was 48 and 0 before he lost, and that was over two careers. He lost out on three years of his prime, and still had a great run over very good fighters, and Champions. Johnny was one of the best 115 lbs ever, and only lost when going up in weight against another great fighter in Ayala. This is no charity induction. He deserves it.

It's funny how fast a fighter gets sh*t on after a loss. It's as if they never did anything the second they lose. It's sad boxing fans are so cruel. I concur. Sir!

He lost to Rubio five years ago. I can named several fighters who considered better than Lemiuex who lost to worst comp in the beginning off their careers. Lemule has solid wins and has proven to be a top fighter, no need to throw dirt on the man accomplishments. That was not my intention. Lemieux is a fine fighter. I just don't think he, and Canelo are on the same level. No dirt on his career.

Campbell looks really long and rangy. He might give Loma a hard time, at least for a while. I see Loma winning by late KO, but this looks like a hard win for him.

Any fighter has a chance but on fight night who are you picking to win? I think Marquez comes in ready and prepared but Floyd is going to win and set up Pacquiao. People say Floyd just runs away but how long have they been watching this guy fight? I saw him whip many fighters asses toe to toe and totally dominated an Undefeated, heavy hitting, Diego Corrales in his prime, he whipped out and had Phillip Ndou corner stop the fight, Henry Bruseles whipped out in the 8th and these were guys who had like 1 or two losses in 30 fights and a high KO ratio. Mayweather is NO JOKE and if people stopped for a minute and kept their annalyzes about boxing then they would see the truth as well. Personally, I see Floyd talking shit because he sells himself and a fight, that shit shouldn't be taking personally like most do. Floyd had more towels thrown in the ring to stop fights, outclassed guys with speed and accurate punching, fought toe to toe with a game Jesus Chavez punch for punch and made him quit. Floyd has style for every fighter. Maybe there is somebody out there that can kick his ass but until I see him, I'm always going to put my money on Floyd, because the guy is in his prime and still has some fight in him. I just don't see anyone technically better than him right now. I agree that in his prime he would be almost unbeatable, but just by looking at him at the press conference, he looked old or tired or something , just not right. He also was talking a little funny. I don't think this layoff has been good to him. I give him credit for fighting a true P4P best in his first fight back, no matter the weight difference, but I think he loses this one by KO.

Gonzales is extremely overrated. Was not impressed at all. If this guy doesn't impress you, no one will. He is the best fighter out there! Be fair. I have not seen that kind of balance, and skill since Finito lopez, or Chavez Sr. Viloria is a very good fighter, and will beat most fighters in this weight class. There is no fighter as good as this guy right now.

murray macklin geale stevens lemuix were all top 10 guys when GGG slaughtered them There is a reason why n'dam, strum, serg, cotto all refused to fight GGG Can you name a legit big puncher that canelo has faced... Yes he has fought good comp but trout, floyd, lara, and cotto aren't big punchers.. And no kirkland and angulo don't count as they were damaged goods Obviously this will be the best fighter GGG has faced, and it will be the biggest puncher that canelo has faced.. I stand corrected! And no Canelo has never seen a puncher, nor a fighter like this. But the opposite is also true for GGG, except for Lemieux, and Stevens. ( Could punch, Not fight at this level). I just think this is a closer fight that people think it is.

Somebody wrote an article on Boxing Scene asking when we would learn if Charlo was good or great, and tonight we learned he's just good. He's definitely not ready for Alvarez or Golovkin. Just good, but still unproven. Not ready for the top guys. I thought they both lost.

You're a F@#$n Idiot!

The fight clearly wasn't a robbery. The opinions are all over the place. Even the people claiming robbery have it 7-5 Loma in most cases, and there were a ton of swing rounds in this fight. This was a very close, but clear fight to score. If you go by the criteria that you score a fight on. Clean punches, effective aggression, ring generalship. Was all on the side of Loma. Haney was playing keep up. He fought well at times, and showed his quality, but He was not controlling the fight. This was not a robbery like when they gave Jeff Horn the win over Pac Man. I was more like Oscar losing to Tito. Great fight, but the wrong guy won.

That was a very ugly fight. The ref was allowing Ryan to turn his back, and not letting Duarte hit him where the punches were landing. If you turn your back, and you get hit in the back, that is on you. It changed the fight in Ryans favor. He was also allowing Ryan to measure, which is illegal. Ryan won, but. He did not look good. Everybody at the top at 140 except Romero will beat him.

No he is not. He lost every round to Mayweather and lost to GGG twice and Lara. So are we inventing our own outcomes now? Just because you say something is true, that doesn't make it so. GGG fights were close. Lara ran the whole fight. The outcomes were correct.

Canelo and GGG are pretty much the same size and Canelo has never really had a decisive win against his best opposition. I haven't seen much development from Canelo as I'd like, he's still flatfooted and he never really controls the fight, he's way too opportunistic, he doesn't create his opportunities, that's the sign of a boxer with little experience to me. GGG howeer Has much more experience overall as a boxer, pro experince doesnt really translate to your actual skillset. He still comes up short to GGG in terms of tact and the very basics of boxing. Just because Canelo is regarded as a top fighter doesn't necessarrily make him one, to me it's much more about what they do in the ring rather than who've they've fought. If you look at the fighters themselves the edge definitely goes to GGG. Better footwork, better jab, better at creating and taking advantage of opportunities, proven power in both hands against Middleweights and over 300 amatuer bouts guarantees he's fought Canelo's fighting style. I'd even draw a parallel between Canelo and Lemieux. This response is fair. I also believe GGG does somethings better. But I do believe Canelo is a top fighter, because he has not only fought avoided fighters, but beat most. The Lara, and Trout fights were dangerous, but he still fought, and won in my opinion, and the judges. I just think he finds a way to win. GGG has not had those fights, but you are right. He does seem to be the real thing. I just think he will have to prove it in this fight.

Bad decision. Sims did well, but didn't do enough.

——- If Navarrate is an entertaining fighter, he should be able to handle Rigo 2.0 easy. Shakur would mop the floor with Navarrate. After that, would you then put the Los Santos fight behind you or are you one of those who believes one lackluster performance defines a fighter. Oscar LITERALLY ran from Tito the last 4 rounds. Oscar got the biggest gift of the year with his “win” over Felix Sturm. Nobody talks about those fights but Shakur has a lackluster fight and he is the most “boring” fighter ever. Oscar had one or two bad fights. He beat Tito, and maybe lost to Sturm, and both were very much more exciting than any of Shakur,s fights. I have never seen Shakur in a good fight. His bad fights are the rule not the exemption. Oscar was an ATG. You should never compare him or any ATG to Shakur. He is going to be just another super skilled guy that makes no money, because people can't stand to watch him so therefore will not pay for it.