is it easier to think a ton of reasons than giving Pacquiao an ounce of credit?
It is very easy for the haters and much easier to swallow than the truth. But who cares what these pendejos think?
“Pac ain't going to win over no haters like me untill he fights someone who is in his prime or his opponet is fighting like he isn't diminished i.e fighting back.
If Pac can beat Hatton, i'll be impressed. If he can beat Valero, Marquez, Soto, Diaz, then i'll be impressed. And i mean if he can beat 1 of these fighters.” - - - Posted by Ferocity
Hey Dude,
Ive got to hand it to you for admitting that you're a Pac hater, but let me tell you this. Nobody is interested in winning you over. We couldn't care less if you're not impressed. If Pac fought and beat the shit out of all your fighters, you would still come out with all excuses just to keep Pac from getting the credit he is due.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Last time I heard, Oscar is so hard up on cash that he's prepared to face the humiliation of taking a dive and getting raped by a midget!
He got beaten fair and square by a fighter who was hungrier for a win, better prepared and trained, speedier and with a better strategy. So, does it seem that Pacman is too awesome? Deal with it, people!
You should never believe everything you read, especially on the internet. Keep yourselves sane and rely more on your common sense.
Wow some you guys are really irked by the missed O in his name, lol. .
People should be irked, and for good reason. How does these names grab you?
Calzagh
Dawso
Hatto
Margarit
And what would happen if you take out the last letters of the names of Presidents Obama and Bush?
A man's name is his identity and should not be disrespected.
But some idiots don't seem to realize this.
Pinoys are friendly, easy-going and reasonable people. We can take it as well as dish it out. This is not a perfect world. And since haters and “dickheads” will always be out there, expect similar replies from nuthugging “dickheads” as well.
Oscar had a pretty good run with his boxing career, but it's time to hang his boxing gloves. He looks better now in a business suit than in his boxing trunks.
After dominating his weight division at 130 lbs, Pacman moved up to the LW division and picked for his first fight not merely a contender but a reigning champion, then finishes him off with a devastating KO. Therefore, he deserves to be #1.
If PBF returns to the ring, he must prove himself once again to earn the #1 spot.
When I saw the fight, I thought pac looked a lot slower..thats just my opinion, I could be wrong. but I felt he was WAY slower, and maybe his power didn't carry thru.
maybe thats why it took him that long to ko diaz
Pac's speed and power remain as they were before. He was very effective and dominant against Diaz because Diaz was very SLOW. He had absolutely no defense against Manny. Give credit to David's conditioning and endurance that enabled him to stay for nine rounds of beating. Lesser men would have kissed the canvas much earlier.
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Yes, he is. He shows genuine and immediate concern for a downed opponent, instead of jumping up and down with raised hands.
i dont understand how this makes you happy if all you pac stans talk about is how much of a warrior pac is and here he is ducking Juan Diaz and JMM.
Pacman's reputation as a warrior is beyond question and he is not ducking anyone, least of all JMM. We all want the rematch between Pac and Marquez, but that decision is beyond us, mere fans, to make. Pacman's fight with DDiaz is a logical business strategy becoz they are both with Top Rank and negotiation hassle is minimized. Pacquiao also gets more money since GBP is out of the picture.
Ultimate losers are Oscar DLH and JMM, but who is to blame? They blew their first and best chance. The Pacman money train has moved on and all JMM can do is chase him at 135 lbs. He may yet get a shot at Pac as a challenger if and when Pac gets the LW belt. That is if Pac doesn't get a better deal fighting JDiaz for all the marbles.
Pacman lovers and haters, let's all relax and enjoy the show. :boxing: :boxing:
It's official, though the contract hasn't been signed yet.
Pac fights DDiaz in March.
Pac haters, eat your hearts out and get in line with your gripes!
JMM can still chase Pac at LW,.... and fall in line, too.
You seriously know nothing about boxing if you pick Roach over Steward.
You seriously know very little about boxing, based on your remark.
Take a look at the poll results.
First off, an Oscar-Manny match up is a joke.
So is a Floyd-Manny or even a Hatton-Pacquiao fight.
But to answer your question: Of course, Floyd wins by a wide margin, mainly because of their weight difference.
If Pac wins over Marquez, he definitely becomes #1. (duh)
Mayweather moves down to #2 and Marquez likewise moves down to number #3 or even lower depending on how fucked up he gets.
Pacquiao is not ducking anybody, least of all Marquez.
It all boils down to the split of the purse and other terms of the fight. Marquez was badly advised and made a bad decision the first time.
We all want this fight to happen. Let's see if JMM has wised up.
para sayo!
http://www.kabayancentral.com/music/star/1184007-2.jpg
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Hey, I didn't know that you were a Pac music fan yourself !
Listen to it in the evening and it's guaranteed to put you to sleep .....
But his left hook does the job quicker. Ha ha ha !!!:rofl:
sorry, but there is not one poster here, even pinoy, that doesn't feel that you are ignorant and completely biased, therefore, this is my only response to your reply.
anyway, I give Pacquiao credit for what he has done. The guy is a machine of to whom there is no equal. I just feel that certain fans (like the idiot I quoted)
exaggerate his accomplishments due to an unhealthy amount of pride and prejudice.
Whoa! You just disgraced yourself, my friend, by resorting to name calling.
People usually do that when they run out of worthy things to say, or reasons to back up their arguments.
In one breath I become, ... in your own words: ignorant, completely biased, and an idiot with an unhealthy amount of pride and prejudice. I suspect that you were looking in the mirror as you were describing me, whom you have never met.
Why don’t you stick to the issues being discussed? You being the starter of this thread should keep the discussion with honor and respect.
I was hoping to keep the exchange of opinions here at a higher level of intelligence and civility. But I’m afraid that your breeding took the better of you. Any moron who knows a very limited number of words can make all kinds of insults. It’s the reasoning behind the words that count, my friend.
like i said, pac is good, his destruction of a good version of barrera proves that, but when marquez and morales were close to their primes they beat him, simple as that....
...pacquiao gets waaay too much credit for his wins...
Let the record books speak for themselves.
Pac has NEVER been knocked down by ANY Mexican, and he beat ALL the boxers of note in his weight division (EM:3 out of 2, MAB:2 out of 2), except for that controversial draw with Marquez.
All this reference to "prime" this and that boxing legend and how they could have beaten the real winner of the match is pointless since it can never happen in this lifetime except on the fantasies of their fans.
Nitpicking on irrelevant issues and denying a fighter his rightful due is unfair.
The kid is seriously impressive.
That vic KO was simply nasty. It looked like he knocked the life outta him.
The Maldonado fight was great. The kid just looks so well polished.
He has the speed, power and the SKILLS.
I look foward to seeing his next fight!
Right on, Bro!
Let's all look forward to that.
it hurts doesn it. its ok. its ok.
You're the one hurting with envy, ha ha ha!!!:nana:
I can just imagine how irritating it must be for you to see that Pac has a productive life other than boxing.:banghead:
He is such a success that whatever he does, --- endorsing commercial products, singing out of tune, making shitty movies, and oh yes, beating up on old Mexican legends for fun, --- he rakes in lots of cash. :banana: :banana:
By the way, the hot chicks come as bonus. He doesn't have to pay them through the nose like DLH. Poor guy.
Have you heard of money??? fuking dumbshit... how many fighters have "retired" and came back? do you really think they come back cause they think they can dominate again? no...its all about $$$... simple fucking common sense.
So, what’s your point, pussy?
You justify their coming back from retirement to fight again because of the money. Well and good. They fight and they get clobbered, then you bleeding hearts cry out that these "old men" are "post prime". (duh)
The point is Morales and Morales have not retired and came back before they fought Pac. You assholes were even predicting that your precious Morales and Barrera would school Pacquiao. Wonder of wonders! Right after they lost, you were the same assholes saying they were “washed up” when they fought Pac.
As you said: simple fucking common sense. Something which you obviously don’t have.
Sore losers, that’s simply what you are.
his maneger made a bad desicion, there is nothing that suggest JMM didint want the fight, he felt he was promised something and didint get it, so he moved on, you act as if Pac won the fight, pac was lucky to get the draw that he did.
Awarding a particular round by judges are subjective and sometimes open to debate. But there are clear rules on points regarding KD's. No judge of the fight said he made a mistake awarding any of the rounds, but one judge did admit that he made a booboo about those first round KD's by Pac. That one point robbed from Pac resulted in the controversial draw.
So, if any corrections were made, Pac will get that one crucial point and the win.
Get it?