Floyd hasn't beat the dog sh-t out of anyone since Gatti. A club fighter
Go troll somewhere else
Shut your ***** a$$ up!! Cotto never beats floyd and in 2008 young floyd would have ****ed Cotto up !
Cotto was sharper back then also, quicker with his combos, willing to take more of a risk and better reflexes in my opinion.
He gained experience and improved tactically as he got older but was not the physical force he was in his younger days.
Why are you haters so thick headed !!!?? At no point was Cotto a match for Floyd, which is why Arum never match them at 140.
Arum tried his best to put every fighter he could between floyd and Cotto.
He even offered Floyd a ****ty deal of 8 mil to fight Margarito , 4 and 5 mil for Hatton and Cotto fights.
Arum new Floyd would not Fight Hatton for such little money nor would he fight Cotto for little money and still stay under contract with that crook.
As a fighter Cotto got as good as he was going to get at 140 and 147, which the reason he started going down hill, and his wars with Zab and other fighters at 140 and 147 proved that.
Are you guys serious? Hagler is ancient. Today's fighters have evolved well beyond anything that those old school guys did back then. GGG has better training, better science behind it, specialised cross trainers, nutritionists, advanced scientific methods of training that form an evolved fighter that eclipses what came before it.
Hagler was just a brawler with a good chin that fought a bunch of bums. He got beaten by overrated Leonard, who lost to a fat, lazy, lightweight himself, after a six year layoff. Can you imagine Mayweather getting beaten by someone that just had a six year layoff?
GGG is a byproduct of all the guys that came before him. He knows all of Hagler's moves, as well as Monzon's, Robinson's, Charles', Lamotta's and with his modern training and all the new techniques that are taught to fighters today, Hagler would literally not stand a chance.
You guys are stuck in old school, black and white world. Get with the program guys. Every other sport is breaking new records, boxing is no different.
GGG is a combination of all the middleweights that came before him and his training is ten times more advanced. Hagler would get broken down and stopped. He just doesn't have the necessary skills, power, and moves that an advanced, scientifically trained, modern super hybrid athlete like GGG has.
Hagler was just Brawler ?? you are truly dumb !!! Hagler was a boxer with a sledge hammer Jab that rearranged fighter faces. Hagler could box the Brawler , Brawl the boxer , fight inside and out , great foot work , and could box from ether side. Get your ****ing fact straight Black and white has nothing to do with it .. GGG would get the special vitamins beat out of him by Hagler.
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Ortiz's hands were down the entire time, the ref hadn't given the signal to resume fighting and Ortiz wasn't looking. How is a left hook to an unprotected fighter not an attempted KO punch?
Kokietgym had his hands up and was looking at Rigondeaux.
I have no problem with either as fighters should be protecting themselves at all times, but this was much less cheap.
Wrong !! The ref had signaled for the fight to continue. Ortiz had already apologized to floyd twice before and then went in for a third hug, when floyd acknowledge him and then hit him.. But the Notice that the ref signaled both fighter Ortiz and Floyd to continue fighting !! Don't believe me, look the fight up on youtube!
dont need no one to "jump in and help ya". Bias for cotto? no just stating the obvious like before. henry bruseles, sharmba mitchell, carlos baldomir are a bunch of nobody's. Fought them instead of top competition. Next excuse. and yea I dont like mayweather for him being a fraud and a coward.
No your just an idiot !! Floyd ask to fight Cotto but instead Bruseles a Cotto look alike from the same Gym. Shamba Mitchell a bum? Please !! He was the best until losing to Levander Johnson RIP , Steve Johnston and Tszyu these guy where all world ranked Champions not bums.
Second the only reason Floyd fought Baldomir because fans demanded it as well as the sanctioning bodies after Baldimir beat Zab. Floyd refuse the Baldomir fight, only to hear fans say that he was ducking a legitimate contender and the rightful holder of the liner 147 pound title.
I've never seen a fan base so mad after a win. Flowmoes are something else :lol1:
Get well soon, Champ. Hell of an effort with only one good arm. :boxing:
Floyd fans are not Mad!! Pac fans always believe pac excuses when he loses!
first KO - I was young
second KO - I was inexperienced
loss to Morales - Sox and gloves
KO loss to marquez - lucky punch and Roids
Loss to Floyd - My shoulder was hurt a month ago , I mean in the 4th round !
Up coming loss to Floyd - God forgot to deliver Floyd into my hans!
Yup, same reason why Floyd never fought guys like Sergio Martinez and Paul Williams .... because of TR and Arum ..... you got me there ..... Oooops, I just checked and unfortunately those guys never fought for Arum yet Floyd ducked them too! Hmmmmmm :wave:
Sorry budd but Manny has not ducked anyone. Make a poll and everyone will know who is the winner of this ducking contest. Even now, Arum said that he is interested. Go show me a link that says that Floyd is currently interested. :wave:
Stop being an idiot .. Paul Williams was never in line to fight Floyd nether was Martinez. If that where the case why didn't Pac fight ether guy??
As far as Floyd saying anything about Pac, he says he's done dealing with these guys period.
Floyd offered Pac 40 mill which he turned down ..The only reason Pac and Arum are trying now because they now Know Pac drawing power is down along with his boxing ability .. Arum will not put Pac in the ring with anyone that would be a danger.. So don't look for pac to move up to 154 or fight any dangerous young fighters.
HA, stfu you nut hugger. That's ridiculous. Mayweather isn't strong.
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Wow your dumb !!!
The same people who were in here saying Broner was going to wipe the floor with Maidana and ko him with a body shot who vanished over the weekend are now here talking about what Mayweather would do to Maidana. That's ok, you can say what Floyd would do to Maidana but here's the thing about that...."You ain't the one boxing!!" and "Assumptions are pointless"....this was just proven to many many many fans this weekend. No win is guaranteed so have some damned respect for the sport and stop counting everyone dead in the water because he may face someone you like....it amazes me Floyd shows his opponents more respect than we the fans do...
You would have to be kidding yourself if you think Maidana is going to catch Floyd slipping at any part of his game... Floyd is not going to play games wit Maidana the way Bronner did and he is not going to let himself be out of shape between fights unlike Bronner pryer to his fight with Maidana was on tour and out of shape..Not going to happen with Floyd, He not going to make Amateur mistakes like that , Maidana is going to have to bring his A+ game . Even though he won the fight there were time when he was winded and out of gas , he does that with Floyd and it will be over.
Canelo will never be the best so what's the point even watching him and paying for tickets ... He looked his worse when he fought like a chicken against Floyd ...
once idiot like you stop watching boxing it will be so much better.
That is one of the reasons why Floyd will not fight Manny. It will be difficult for him to hug/clinch a moving Pacquiao all the time. Not to mention continuous assault on his right side with Pacquiao's left hook etc.
I will only be convinced Floyd is not a wussy if I will see him atop the ring with Pacquiao.
There would be no need seance pac has no inside fighting game to begin with, and he like fighting from the outside, which is floyd type of fight.
Floyd won't be quick to fight Maidana; he hits way too hard and is relentless... much quicker a foot than Guerrero or Canelo, and throws a LOT of punches. Floyd wants a patty-cake with Amir Khan, fo a big pay day, and little risk. He wanted Devon Alexander for the same reason a year ago, but Alexander tore a bicep muscle and that ended that hand picked selection. Maidana doesn't need Boner any time soon. If he were Floyd, Floyd wouldn't offer a rematch... so Maidana doesn't either. And now that everyone is jumping on Thurman's bandwagon, it was only one or two fights ago, Thurman looked horrible with some stiff.
I believe the direction this should go, is for Danny Garcia to fight Provodnikov, Pacquiao fight Bradley, Rios & Alvarado do it again and the winner gets Paulie Mags, Matthysee fight Marquez, Guerrero fight Thurman.
Dude Please just stop .. Maidana power is way over rated .. The fact remains he did not KO Broner who moved up from 135 and was hurting him as well. Amir almost KOed Maidana .. So please stop pumping up Maidana, because once again when Floyd spanks his limited skills a$$ he won't get credit for it.
another bullcrap statement coming from the catchweight king. as we already know catchweight king is a pathological liar and he knows that his marketability is significantly declining due to his boring fight style. he would say anything and even lies up to his teeth just to sell himself. pathetic... :pat:
catchweight king ?? Im afraid the throne of catchweight king belongs to "Got Knock the Fock Out Pacquiao" Long live the king !!!
sr knows sht about boxing..... in canelos camp
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If Floyd Sr had a leak why in the Hell would you announce it !!! Keep that **** secret !!
Floyd Sr Talks to much.
The question was pretty clear and Pac obviously hesitated to answer but didn't want to lie.. You assumed Pac didn't understand the simple question, only morons would think that way.
So idiot was pac lying or did he not understand the question!!?? Cause you're not making any f'ing sense !
its seem pretty apparent he didn't understand and Radio didn't bother to clarify, even after asking twice . as you put it a clear question.
what the f0ck does "mmm i sparring" mean anyway ?
if manny is so illiterate as you claim how did he become a congressman !!!!! obama was a congressman too , do you think hes illiterate???!!!!!! how would a congressman be able to go to the white house if he cant read ask yourself that question !!!!!! the fact is manny is being shaked down for political reasons !!!!!!!!
Good question how did a boxer with no political background become a congressmean:dunce::dunce:
OKAY SO SR IS THE ONE THAT BASICALLY SAID HE WOULD FIGHT HIM IN THE STREET. AND GHOST FATHER SAID SOMETHING BACK AND NOW IM A DUMBASS FOR COMMENTING ABOUT STREET FIGHTING? LOL STFU :thumbsdow
What ever homie , its easy to tell someone to STFU from behind a keyboard.. Kinda of a ***** move, because there no repercussion for pop'en off over the internet .. what ever.
Anyways I do think its dumb for giving credit for street fighting any fool can do that ..
if he's furious....
pull your fighter out.
This not the amateurs, you just don't pull a fight especially if you met your obligation of the agreed upon contract weight.
Like Shields said, bring your check book on friday, and get ready to pay!! All BS aside.
Jr can't make weight, that his problem, pay the fucc up!!
Does anyone doubt that this Cereal Sucker Punching Cheat, hasen't mastered the
Roids Hiding Technique of Armstrong's Transfusions, or some other way of beating the System???
In what way has Floyd show any evidence of roid use ? His speed has faded, and his combination punch output has lowered seance moving up in weight.. Pac on the other hand, has manage to increase all of the above plus some, yet pac retard have the nerve to claim foul.
I agree that Mayweather was impressive. if u don't like his skillz then ur not a boxing fan and just want barroom brawls.
My issue has been and will be Mayweather's level of competition. It seems that he never seeks the toughest challenges and always goes for ones that he can market but aren't the best fights - examples: Gatti instead of Tszyu, Marquez instead of Pacquiao, 38 yr old Mosely instead of P. Williams, Cotto at 154 instead of Martinez at 154.
Mayweather is obviously a great fighter, but he doesn't want to prove himself to be an alltime great the way fighters like SRL and SRR would
How is he not going after the toughest challenge ?? He just beat a fighter that was undefeated and two time world champion. Gerrero also beat two of the strongest welterweights. He shut both of Berto's eyes and he out slugged power puncher Aydin. How much tougher do you want ? so he should fight Light heavy weights ?
So Mayweather constantly bringing up unusual demands shows he's serious. SMH
I'm not a Pac fan or a Mayweather fan. I'm a fan of boxing and I like them both. When it comes to this fight not getting made that's because Mayweather doesn't want it.
Asking for a blood testing / Is with in reason .
Asking for Pac to be a Free agent before they negotiate a fight / with in reason based on Arum and Floyd past.
Asking Floyd to fight for free / Is just plain retarded
- Trainer cost money
-Sparring partners cost money
- promoting a fight cost money
- getting a bank to loan you the money and promote the fight cost money.
NO wonder Pac is broke He is a complete retard. Just how is Pac going to pay Arum if he fights for free? Arum has pac under contract, no matter who banner he fights under Arum gets his pimp portion of Pac bankroll. We all know Arum is about "B1Tch better have my money "
that floyd cant take steady pressure, didnt u read what he wrote geez..
Did Cotto win that fight .. NO
He barely won 3 rounds at best . Steady pressure my a$$ people have been saying that for the last 12yr .. How long does an idiot hold on to a fail idea ? Until it kills him !!
You sir are that idiot !
lol funny guy here...i didnt say he had a better resume son lol,,jus saying some people say he didnt have boxing experiance son!!!
yeah and Sr was know to whoop ass on the street during his drug selling days.. and he's been shot also so, and he gone to the pen .. that don't mean **** , just like Guerrero father talking al that **** about how he's been shot and stabbed .. Please !!!! Dude too old he need to sit down somewhere!! Him and floyd be lucky if they don't break a hip or something. how old is dud like dame near 70 lol his old ass.!
pacquiao is not the one who failed 3 tests and had them swept under the rug hahahahahaha give me a break.
and you also know that malignaggi accuses floyd of being on steroids too, right????
Yeah right I love the way pac fan pull this "floyd failed three test" out of their asses! What fight did floyd so happen to fail three test ? Floyd style has always been one of skill, not of raw power and speed! Floyd has never been a devastating KO artist but one of pure boxing. so just how does he fit into the mole of Roids?
Pac on the other hand ! 112 to 150, same work rate or higher and increase power as he has moved up in weight.
Prize idiot. Fighting once a year and only being subject to testing for 2 months of that looks very, very suspicious.
The chickens have come home to roost on Pac and his fans, who looked down their nose on random testing .. Now that Pac got his ass handed too him now pac fan want scream foul or accuse floyd of using Roids, because they can't explain or except what happen to their hero.
Yep. and Floyd historically has given up a round or 2 while he solves his opponent.
Against PAC, it might take him a bit longer to even get his timing ...Instead of 1 or 2 rounds...he might give up a few more if he can't time PAC. And after that, it could be anyone's fight from there.
That's how I see it.
I predict PAC will take 4 of the 1st 6 rounds. Activity will win PAC rounds while Floyd tries to time him.
Then it'd be interesting to see how Floyd fights coming from behind in the fight. I think he might take a few of the middle rounds. But having the fight very close will result in Floyd taking more chances. And thus getting tagged by Pac's left crosses.
I think it'd be close. Close enough to warrant a rematch.
You mean like he was behind after 4 rounds with Zab, Mosley, Maidana .. Being behind in a fight is not new to Floyd adjustment is the name of his game.. He knows how to keep the round close.
Whilst I can see the point, I'm not so sure I like this rule.
I think if someone is capable of putting on 15-20lb's after a weigh in e.g. JCCjr, then they're clearly draining themselves too much to make the weight in the first place. I think they should be allowed to put on whatever weight they like over night. It's another dimension to a fight which is massively misunderstood by a casual fan - cutting to make weight is a very intricate process of balancing diet and training so as to not come in overweight, but to also not cut too much to the point where you can't compete at your best.
Let em weigh what they want after the weigh in!
I disagree .. It means one of two thing to me .. One if you're putting on 15 to 20 pound after weigh ins and you're killing yourself to make weight .. Then you should not be fighting at that weight.
Second it also means the fighters is more then likely not living a clean life style. If a fighter's weight class 130 and he/she is walking around at 150 or even 160 then you should consider two option 1) start conducting yourself better and watching your diet 2) move to a bigger weight class.
I personally feel its not fair to the fighter that maintain their weight between fights and stay in shape, just to have fight some guy who does the opposite and shows up in the ring 20lb over the weight limit. carrying an additional 20 over your opponent is clearly un-fair advantage.
Exactly, sparring is meant to push you to your limits and beyond, and it also gives you an opportunity to work on things.
By the BS coming out of Floyd's camp he taking sparring sessions like a fight club.
Just the same BS coming out of Pac camp! Pac KOing sparing partners. Its all hype.
freddie is killing the mayfeathers with his phycological warfare !!!!!!!! the mind games that he 9 time trainer of the year is waging on those mental midgets will be remembered for yrs to come !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freddie hitting roid mayfeather with 100% pure ether !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah yeah, sure, Roach is wining this fight against Floyd, with his mind game skills :slap: