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How can anyone support cheating? Its not like its just drugs and you win a race. In this sport cheating can lead to the death of an opponent. And this could have very easily happened with margaritos plaster wraps. Yet we have people on here saying Cotto is scared of Margarito etc etc. WTF? nothing wrong with supporting someone but yes supporting the actions of a person that cheated is stupid they should just accept the fact that as a fan of margarito he screwed up accept the fact that if you screw up you get punish and move and wait for him to come back the next year, the problem is nutthuggers of any boxer of that matter, there never willing to accept anything about there beloved boxer never willing to say he lost or he screwed up thats the problem instead of just being a fan and they rather throw there fighter up on a pedistol and talk bad about other fighters, sad part its not gonna change so just get used to arguing with nutthuggers that never budge on there screwed up point of views. ITS KIND OF FUNNY LISTENING TO THEM THOUGH

I just dont understand the insane following he has, there are plenty of other mexican fighters to sweat... Why cant they let go of Marg? to them i think its about bashing a puerto rican i think i dunno correct me if im wrong

To me it's about the Cotto nuthuggers accepting that Marg was cleared of any wrong doing against Cotto. He beat him and made him quit. And with that said I'm out. later. bro your funny you are what you hate guess what that is ....................A NUTHUGGER !!! get over it later

i like both these fighters but im taking jmm just cuz of his experiance and determination i dont think diaz can outbox jmm, jmm is to smart and he stands his ground when he has too not too mention diaz isnt a knockout puncher he's a pressure fighter but hey you never know he still has a chance

no one with a respectable knowledge would claim Mayweather was the greatest of all time, but I would definitely argue that he is an All Time Great (roughly equates to top 100 all time)... And a pretty solid one at that (somewhere between like #40 and #70 - I've never attempted to make a list so it's a shot in the dark) bro im not really writing this for you obviouslly me and you are on the same page about mayweather its more for his die hard fans too hear and comment on. but i agree with your take on where he stands in atg

which fighters are those? every fighter I stated was on the p4p list. bro he was just saying that at the time floyd fought the fighters u listed they were not on the p4p list thats all he was saying not that they never was on the list

you didnt get the point of my post , I dont think he is top 10 of all time either all i said was if he and his fans want all of the boxing world to put him in top atg level than he needs to prove it by fighting the best out there. im a fan of boxing im not biased on one fighter i think floyd has great skills but hasnt proven that he should be atg, do you understand now

Depends on who he is fighting, you dont get 20 mil for fighting Mosely but he should get 20 for Pac. Floyd knows this, 20 mil for Mosely is a number for them to meet him somewhere in between, thats what negotiating is all about. Hey the man is retired, if they didnt want to see him fight they wouldnt be offering him even 8 million which is alot of money. When you retire at the top youre in such great demand. u gotta remember that there is two fighters to pay not one and a fighter like pacquiao is gonna want alot of money too, so i think 8 should be enough if he wants to be greedy thats up to him but i really dont think he's gonna get 20 from fighting anyone.

i have been following this kid a long time ago!! and here u have a future multi div champs.. @ least 2 division... I agree i cant wait till he gets his shot

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First off its funny how people keep trying to argue this point i guess no matter what its going to continued to be argued until floyd mayweather does something about it, think about all the guys of the old days everyone keeps bringing up nobody ever questions whether or not they should be on the top 10 atg, floyd on the other hand will only be able to be on the top of his fans atg list, everyone else that watches boxing will never put him there because he leaves to many things undone, he is a what if boxer all of the skills with none of the accomplishments of the real atg's and if he himself really cares to be on the list than the only way to do that is to prove to everyone that he can beat the best of his time, not talk about who we think he can beat because talking proves nothing

overhyped? ive watched most of his fights and as the opposistion gets better he seems to be winning more convincinglly how is he overhyped he's an exciting young upcoming fighter. I think time will tell

oh i forgot chris john i would probably then take off calzhage but he's up there

yes but the arguement has never been if hes one of the best at 130 the arguement all his fans keep bringing up is that he is the greatest of all time meaning p4p #1 if it was him being top 130 i could see that.

5 rounds + a point deduction, means you would have to win every single round just to tie. Mayweather would need one round. Both rounds 8 or 11 were extremely close, and could of been scored for mayweather easily. If it was a 15 round fight, castillo would of definitely won. Castillo also would of won, if he didn't start so damn slow. so your telling me that in a close round you would give it too the guy that was not controlling the pace and landed the softer punches because in both of these so called close rounds thats what happened so we award people that run and only throw jabs and land less punches in a round the softer ones at that like i said just because it was close doesnt mean it shouldnt have gone to castillo who did everything he should have to win really i usually never use compubox but numbers dont lie and in a close fight why would you award a fighter who landed the softer shots and less at that pretty much your awarding him based off the fact the he is a slick boxer and got away from alot of castillo's punches that statement would work if he had landed more of the punches and the more effective ones and in the first five rounds there were a couple of rounds where you could say that he only won those rounds by a few jabs so we give him those rounds but not give rounds to castillo that he fought for and deserved thats just wrong

floyd won both of them so give it up...floyd even went southpaw on castillo a few times in da 1st fight so git ur speed up on ur eye-sight... so just cauz he went southpaw means he wins a fight... Yeah that makes sense im pretty sure ur the one that should check your eyesight floyd landed less punches didnt control the fight and got hit harder than he delivered so i guess that puts u right in the floyd cult so props to you on awarding someone who loses a fight

In both those rounds I mentioned, Mayweather landed the cleaner, crisper shots. A lot of Castillo's punches were landing on elbows / arms / shoulders. Take a look at Castillo's face after the fight. His nose is bloody, and his left eye swollen, while Floyd was unmarked. "that he fought for and deserved?" In boxing there is clear emphasis, on clean punching, in both rounds 8 and 11, Floyd landed the cleaner shots, and even harder punches. Castillo's workrate kept the rounds close, but both of those rounds could be justifiably scored for Mayweather. End of discussion. NAH FOR YOU BRO IM GONNA WATCH IT AN 8TH TIME AND SCORE IT AGAIN EVERYTIME I SCORE IT FOR CASTILLO BY 2 POINTS I DONT GO OFF OF LEDERMANS SCORE CARD ACTUALLY THERE WAS A ROUND HE GAVE TOO MAYWEATHER THAT I THOUGHT CASTILLO WON SO THERE LOOK I KNOW YOU POST THAT FLOYDMAYWEATHER AND CASTILLO ARE ON YOUR FAV FIGHTERS LIST BUT LOOK BRO U HAVE MAYWEATHER ABOVE CASTILLO NATURUALLY THAT SHOWS ME THAT MAYWEATHER IS YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER SO WHEN U WATCH HIM FIGHT ANYBODY YOUR GONNA GO FOR HIM. YOUR NOT GONNA GO FOR CASTILLO OVER YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE CASTILLO TOO. MEANING WHEN YOU WATCHED THIS FIGHT YOU WERE BIASED YOU CAN TELL ME ANYTHING YOU WANT BUT YOU KNOW YOU WERE EVEN WHEN I TALK TO CASTILLO FANS THEY TELL ME HE KILLED MAYWEATHER AND I HAVE TOO ARGUE WITH THEM THAT IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT AND CASTILLO WON OF COARSE THEY DONT GET AS MAD OR DEFENSIVE AS MAYWEATHER FANS BECAUSE I TELL THEM THERE FIGHTER DIDNT WIN U HAVE YOUR OPINIONS AND I HAVE MINE BUT HONESTLY I HAVE NEVER SIDED WITH ANYBODY JUST BECAUSE I LIKED THEM MORE i LIKED COTTO OVER MARGARITO AND HE DID GOOD UP UNTIL THE 6TH ROUND WERE MARGARITO CAME OUT AND STARTED TOO KILL HIM I WAS GOING FOR MAYWEATHER OVER DLH BUT THAT FIGHT WAS CLOSE NOT BEACUSE DLH MADE IT CLOSE BUT BECAUSE FLOYD DIDNT DO MUCH IN THE CASTILLO- FLOYD FIGHT I WAS SURE MAYWEATHER WOULD WALK THROUGH CASTILLO BUT I WAS WRONG AND HE SHOULD HAVE LOST

post your round-by-round. Btw, i find it humerous a fight you scored 114-112 you claim as a "robbery". well yeah it is robbery wen the fighter that shouldve won lost regardless of how close it was

sounds like you're about to cry man. Relax. It was just a fight, drink a beer or something. nah bro im straight jus cant figure out why people who say they dont care about something would waste there time coming on the thread to post something usually you only post when you do care, bottom line is for every top boxer there are nutthuggers and whenever something bad happens to there guy they make ridiculous excuses and even convince themselves that the fight they saw really didnt go down that way or when there fighter wins a fight they shouldve lost they dont say it like it is they just accept the win to support there fighters legacy at whatever expense of another fighter so thats the bottom line

in both those rounds i mentioned, mayweather landed the cleaner, crisper shots. A lot of castillo's punches were landing on elbows / arms / shoulders. Take a look at castillo's face after the fight. His nose is bloody, and his left eye swollen, while floyd was unmarked. nah he really didnt yes his face was swollen but it was floyd that looked more hurt when he got hit with castillos harder shots your right castillo did mis alot of shots but the ones he landed looked harder and more effective its not my fault that floyd doesnt bruise and bleed easily and yeah his left eye was swollen because that was the only punch mayweather was really landing was the jab look at his numbers bro most of his punches were jabs and not too mention castillo did land good body shots

:bigeyes: Is right. I missed that line. Yo ts, give it up homey. :rofl: dont post if you dont like the facts im sorry you cant handle the fact that all of your guyz hero really shouldnt be undefeated so u give it bro

i just revisited this thread a few times cuz it was funny homey. Check my post history before you say shit like this bro. Pbf is far from bein my hero. The guy has nothin but haters and dickriders. This is one of the resaons why i always say cats should just not talk about him at all til he actually comes back. Can't be no discussion without cats on either side gettin their whinyass feelins hurt. nah bro im not hurt at all just cant stand people that talk shit about how they dont care about a thread and then come on here and post like you did once again i, if it makes u feel better ill apologize for calling pbf your hero but i really dont check peoples f***ing past post im not i stalker and really dont give a shit what someone posted before and im not hurt jus trying too here what people got too say thats fine thats the way you feel about talking about him so if you have nothing too say why come on here, why not move on i aint got shit against u bro but u seem too care what people think about this whole thing if u keep coming back

man just sit back and enjoy the return of a king..you're witnessing history what the guy that robbed castillo so much for a king when you nutthuggers will let a guy accept a victory he didnt deserve the only way we witness history is if floyd comes back too fight a legitimate contender other than that its just floyd being floyd winning imaginary fights in his fans minds

hmm.... Those sound like some of the same excuses that hatton and de la hoya made when mayweather beat them.:hijacked: dis is true

I'm assuming the fight is going to be above 135 if it is made, so what makes you think Marquez will be able to KO Floyd at the higher weights. Hell, he probably won't carry his speed to be able to hit him, nevermind hit him hard enough for a KO. thats not what this thread is about, all it says is if marquez wins what excuses is mayweather and his cult gonna use for the reason why he lost or knocked out im not saying jmm is favored i think floyd is the favorite in this fight but if he loses i do think him and his cult are gonna throw every excuse for losing think about it theres still some people that believed nhe won the first castillo fight im not a big fan of castillo i watched that fight over and over again and still cant get why people think floyd won even the compubox numbers showed he lost the fight

done to death not a valid argument no more because he made up for it in the rematch. it is a valid argument its not that he didnt make up for it its the fact that fact that his cult seems too keep using the punchline that he's the greatest because he's undeafeted when he shouldnt be undeafeted he lost that fight bottom line and yes he did beat castillo the second time around but his undefeated record is tainted because he lost the first time and castillo was robbed

can't give away the first 5 rounds of a fight, get a point deducted, and expect to win. Close fight, nice comeback by castillo in the second half. Not a robbery at all. so wait you can actually give away that point when you won that round that would just make it an even round and remember that mayweather also was deducted a point in a round where castillo was clearly winning which would make it a 10-8 round guy and five rounds is not even half of a fight but i watched this fight so many times tried to give mayweather benefit of a doubt and no matter what he lost just because it was close doesnt mean that it wasnt a robbery all it means is castillo should have won a close fight it is a problem considering floyd is undefeated and people judge his greatness of of his record

you're making it seem as if i think the fight wasn't close. The fight was extremely close. I have no problems with you thinking castillo won the fight, clearly your criteria for judging fights is slightly different than mine and a lot of peoples. I just have a problem with the fact that you are unable to accept that your opinion isn't the absolute. The fight was not a robbery, it was so close that it could of been scored for either fighter, it just so happened it was given to floyd that night. Give credit to floyd for giving castillo the immediate rematch, and winning decisively, without a torn rotator cuff. By the way, floyd is right handed, meaning his jab typically lands on the opponents right side of the face, not the left. Floyd strafed castillo with some pretty damn nice righthands. okay i respct your opinion as well because you have alot of great points but with this close of a fight were you say it was that hard too tell wouldnt it be smart too use something like compu-box too help you make a decision were castillo landed more and the harder shots on that you said i score different than you and you think that floyd landed the harder shots i think castillo landed the harder shots and even had floyd on the run a couple of times so with both are disagreements wouldnt you say using a tool like compu- box would help someone show who really landed more and the harder ones or do you think compu-box numbers is wrong and if it was so close to you than why did the judges have it ud for floyd and there numbers were ridiculous

I really dont give a shit if you guys have seen this thread many of times either you agree or you disagree or dont even come on here if you dont care if you feel its waisting your time than why do you bother to write on the thread obviouslly you guys do care

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Marquez - 10 9 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 10 10 10- 114 Barrera - 9 10 9 10 9 10 9 10 10 9 9 9- 113 This is what I had I just watched it again. Difference I think is 7th round marquez was clearly dominating that round until barreras knockdown that the ref didn’t acknowledge but I scored the knocked down so I gave barrera that round 10-9 usually you get a 10-8 but marquez dominated that round so I only gave barrera a 10-9 but I took away a point because of the illegal blow when marquez was down so I think marquez won barley but I probably would’ve said a draw because without that illegal blow there were pretty even that’s my take so yup.