They dont test for 80% of the known steriods, and dont test for HGH.
althetic commission testings are a joke.
even if they are testing for them , if it was not random it means nothing .
because Pacquiao wouldn't take blood tests any time close to the date after the first Morales fight.. also, he's not afraid of needles.. he's afraid of having something extracted from him and making him weak.
about the fear from needles, these are the words of team pacquiao.
in the the first morales fight ,as i remember from that video on youtube, blood was drawn for him 3 day before the fight which made him feel weak . mayweather gave him 14 days , how was he so sure that he is going to refuse and he will duck him successfully ?
so apparently Ariza's methods don't make anyone into a great fighter like some people imply on this board.
Ariza has never turned any fighter into a superhuman before the year 2008 , until he worked with manny , whether it's by his "special training techniques " or by "doping" . and bobby pacquiao never fought after the year 2008 , so we did not have the chance to see the results and this makes your point invalid .
I propose that anybody who says mayweather is boring doesn't understand this video or boxing in general . what is more exciting in the sport of boxing than watching these skills and tactics ?
I think in the first half of the fight, although cotto was knocked down, he was doing well and hit pacquiao with some good shots to the body and head . but pacquiao proved he can take punishment and still fight back .
Ok then where are all the Boxing Champions that are winning UFC titles then?
I mean you can talk all the shit you want but the truth is every other type of fighter from wrestling to Mu Thai has won a UFC championship. When are the so called untouchable boxers gonna come in and show us all how easy it is.
why would mayweather fight in MMA if he makes at least 10 million per fight ?
How the fuk so? Seriously so a Boxer could just walk onto a Soccer field and become Maradona and win 20 world cups with no training whatsoever?
Seriously man the truth is that a Mixed Martial Artist couldn't just walk into boxing just like a boxer just couldn't walk into a cage. It would be "equally" difficult.
boxing techniques is harder to learn than MMA techniques . MMA is somthing you learn in a couple of weaks or so . i also cant see the talent in these techniques . you may stay learning boxing your whole life and still not good enough .
warning : if you disagree you will look stupid
Yeah the truth hurts. Don't it.. Thanks for the reply... Who do you love??? GOOOOOOO FLOYD!!!!!
props for manny pacquiao for agreeing to OST up to 14 days before the fight , but can anybody introduce a scientific evidence that the body can't benefit from PEDs in a 14-day duration or less than that , whatever the type of PED is ?
I personally don't know ,If anybody here knows enlighten us
Then agree to 0 days Bitch, had he not asked for cut off's in the first place maybe there would be no reason to call him a cheat.
in the first morales fight, pac felt weak because they took blood from him 3 days before the fight , why is he ordering 14-day cut-off ?
I dont give a F--k about how many days he think he'll be weak. I dont care about his lame ass psychology. 14 days aint nothing but a window to juice in and juice out. Random is Random and thats all to it.
you got me wrong . what i'm trying to say is :what's the need for 14 days cut off when you only felt weak when blood was taken 3 days before the fight . if pacquiao felt weak by 3 days why don't make the cut-off date 3 days ? that adds to the suspicions of peds use.
i dont need no scientific evideence. why ask for 14 days if it gives pac time to cheat in the first place. either it does or it dont!
because floyd is not a scientist . he was wrong when he demanded 14 days .
but what makes you think that 14 days are not enough to cheat ?i personally don't know as nobody here knows.may be he can cheat in 14 days and may be not , so the right thing is to take full OST to exclude suspicions .
all you floyd fans were fine with 14 days untill floyd changed his mind which makes you all a bunch of hypocrites. Unlike pacs alleged p.e.d use we have evidence by the many polls and threads you guys made. Fact not fiction. Truth not fantasy. reality not lala land.
forget what floyd and his fans said, hypocrites or not . can you bring a scientific evidence that the body can't benefit from peds in 14-day window ? if not why do you keep saying 14 days are ok ?
flomos want him to test positive man and whos all people want him to take the test... whos this ALL people cus last time i check majority of the media are on pac's side especially since they know there's already a DRUG TEST which is in place and pac has passed it ten times.. there's your knowledge
everyone in the media also know that pac is willing to take the BS blood test that test like 0.000001% of peds besides urine.. or mainly HGH and EPO mircera... what's the logic behind wanting this blood test and willing to put up with the implementation of testing two DRUGS that r neither beneficial to you nor UNDETECABLE under the compromises made by pac since day 1
where's your logic to know that when a man says 5 years in the past that bloods affect him and stuck with that notion even to the point of fighting wheen logically it was he who has been wanting this fight all along, it was he.. who made the first move to fight floyd, it was he, who answered to the boxing/cotto/pac fans when he TKO cotto..
where's your logic in recognizing the fact that tygart said hes not worried about the 14 day window.. hes worried about what happens b4 that
do u logically think someone whos unclean like pac would even want a blood test and even proposed an unlimited everyday urine test which will test 99% of all PEDS???
i don't know what logic u r spewing that pactards or pacfans arent saying but im sure youre the one whos lacking logic here
mayweather is scared.. he is showing symptomps of a coward.. logically therefore he is.. its not a matter of being a pactard, it is a matter of being a normal person drawing from your own experience as a person outside of boxing who came across cowards and see how mayweather stacks... im sure alot of people have come across a coward or 2 and floyd is exactly like them
1-OST is important because it's random unlike the commision's test .
2-HGH and EPO are important PEDs .and they are not 0.00001 of the drugs.
3-in morales fight, he felt weak because blood was drawn 3 days before the fight ,although this weakness has no scientific basis and it's mainly psycological(which we don't underestimate) , he could have ordered 3,4, or 5 day cut-off, instead of 14 days .
4-bring me a scientific evidence that human body can't benefit from HGH and EPO in 14-days window and i will admit that pac has the right to order 14 days.
you claim to talk logic, yet, you neglected the points above .
Floyd accepting a 50-50 split even though he is a bigger draw
and
Manny accepting no cut off dates for the drug testing
Is this a fair offer, what do you guys think? Discuss...
I think this is the best offer and the only way the fight will get made . and imo it's better than 60-40 for floyd and 14-day cut-off testing offer although floyd deserves a bigger split of money, because it assures a clean fair fight .
P4P#1 and 2 boxers should get 50/50 out of respect.
Giving a guy, who is at his peak and at the top of his game, who holds 7 titles in 7 different weight divisions, who just won fighter of the decade, who actually brings excitement to the fight anything less is disrespectful.
this is emotional speech . PPV numbers speak by itself .
prior to mosley- may fight, all pacquiao fans here wanted to make the split according to PPV numbers of may vs. mosley and pac vs. cotto .
mayweather made 1.4 and pac made 1.25, depending on these numbers , mayweather should get 53% and pacquaio 47% , you do the calculation .
this what pacquiao fans here wanted prior to may- mosley , not me .
for me i think 55% -45% is reasonable .
We heared a lot of excuses to discredit mayweather , but the "the fight was fixed" excuse is one of the lamest and silliest. mosley didn't gas out , watch the fight again and see that he was still bouncing on his toes till the last round . mosley also after he hit floyd with the two hard puches he pressed him and tried to finish him off,that won't happen if the fight was fixed .
pac is a career 130 & under fighter. he only has 5 fights above 130. How long has floyd been a welterweight?
pac is on his 8-9th division. he shouldnt even be fighting welterweights. now you want to rip him for not fighting junior middleweights who will be middleweights/super middleweights come fight night?
un fukkking real burns.
don't you think fighting bradly or berto is better than cotto rematch ?
supporting this bullshit fight.....pacturd
either way, hopefully marg comes in gloves fully loaded
cheater vs cheater. juice vs bricks
:rofl: juice vs bricks :rofl: good name for fight promotion
i'm a mayweather fan but your post is meaningless bro . all these side effects are from chronic use of glucocorticoids not anabolic steroids . anabolic steroids are mainly androgens analogues which work on other receptor on the cell . so it doesnt have the same systemic effects of glucocorticoids which are mainly used medically for autoimmune diseases not for performance inhancement .even the withdrawal of glucococorticoids can be overcome by tapering the dose .