lol at this nobody D list turd calling out the best fighter on the planet
http://twitter.com/lilheathenmma
@danawhite plz set up me in Flotd Mayweather, I will finish this *****
Just saw mayweather, what a ******! Put me against him MMA n I will **** him UP
he also studied under a gracie and won the Ju Jitsu world Championships the very same year he got that Black belt. he was considered a prodigy at the sport in fact thats his nick name.
So yes he is a master. Look it's right here in wikipedia!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.J._Penn
So how many MMA fighter are just like BJ Penn? None what so ever. Just like there are no other fighters out there are like Floyd or Manny. You're logic and comparison doesn't really make any sense because you're taking one example that is one in a million and making it out like it's the norm. How the fvck is that logical. Out of all of the fighters that fought this weekend in UFC 112, none of them have the talent of BJ Penn, not even half the talent.
He's talking shit about the promoters and the matchmaking (Something most boxing fans complain about on this very message board on a daily basis) and not the actual sport itself. He ran a boxing gym back in the day for christ sake.
It's funny because if you talk shit about boxing it's just you being a fan, but if Dana White talks about so and so promoter or talks about so and so fighter ducking someone he's shitting all over boxing.
Doube fuking standards!!!
why dont you go post on a mma site this is for boxing biotch
Maybe at one of those National chain karate place you might be able to attain a black belt in 4 years but in serious dojo's it takes at the very least 10years. Seriously man you think these guys are training with half assed instructors? They train with Gracies for fuk sake or they are training with people who studied under them. The Gracies invented Brazilian Ju Jitsu you think they are just gonna give out belts to just anyone? Come on man stop coming up with the unrealistic excuses. You act like boxing is the only fighting style with any kind of standards.
And you actually believe that every single MMA fighters have trained with The Gracies, tell me you're fvcking kidding right. Listen, i'm not necessarily saying that you can't be good if you only have been training for a short period of time. BJ Penn is a good example that Chino727 have given. But the Graicies have dedicated their life into it and like you said have invented jiu jitsu. So for me, i consider them masters, BJ Penn with only 3yrs of training is not a master IMO even though the Gracies have given him their blessing. Is he good, hell fvcking yeah. But he's one in a million, that's why he was regarded as a phenom and a freak. He's just naturally talented. Just like how Floyd is sooo much of a better boxer than most boxers that have more experience than him, he's a natural.
Keep responding cage-boy... MMGAY is shit.. You are seriously butt-hurt over this thread..Every post you took time to respond to..We all own you..Get back you your cage, boy!
Own me? By not knowing a God damn thing about MMA and you are somehow owning me. Everyting I have responded has been nothing but fabrication and stupidity so no you arn't owning me when I'm the one correcting you.
Fight in MMgAy for $200,000 or fight in boxing for $40,000,000 ummmm hard choice for Floyd. The MMA groupies will still act like Floyd is scared or some shit.
BJ penn got his bjj black belt in 3 years.i would say he's a master.
he also studied under a gracie and won the Ju Jitsu world Championships the very same year he got that Black belt. he was considered a prodigy at the sport in fact thats his nick name.
So yes he is a master. Look it's right here in wikipedia!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.J._Penn
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
In 1997 Penn began training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Ralph Gracie, eventually earning his purple belt from Gracie. At that point he moved to Nova União where he was eventually awarded his black belt in 2000 by Andre Pederneiras. A few weeks later he became the first non-Brazilian to win the black-belt division of the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. While Penn's most well-known and prestigous achievement was placing first in the black belt division in the 2000 world championships, he had success at the Mundials in previous years. In 1999, at the age of 20, Penn finished 3rd in the brown belt division, losing only to Fernando Terere, whom many consider the greatest jiu jitsu practioner of all time.
While most people need a decade or more to become a black belt, Penn had, with only three years of training, not only received a black belt but defeated people who had been training their entire lives on his way to winning the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship. Penn is thought to have earned the fastest black belt ever.
I don't consider guys getting their black belt in 2 to 4 yrs a master, which i'll bet you how most MMA fighters got theirs. Those type of belts are bought and paid for. It clearly shows when you see these guys fight that they can't even utilize their knowledge even when given a chance to stand up and fight.
Maybe at one of those National chain karate place you might be able to attain a black belt in 4 years but in serious dojo's it takes at the very least 10years. Seriously man you think these guys are training with half assed instructors? They train with Gracies for fuk sake or they are training with people who studied under them. The Gracies invented Brazilian Ju Jitsu you think they are just gonna give out belts to just anyone? Come on man stop coming up with the unrealistic excuses. You act like boxing is the only fighting style with any kind of standards.
I don't consider guys getting their black belt in 2 to 4 yrs a master, which i'll bet you how most MMA fighters got theirs. Those type of belts are bought and paid for. It clearly shows when you see these guys fight that they can't even utilize their knowledge even when given a chance to stand up and fight.
BJ penn got his bjj black belt in 3 years.i would say he's a master.
YOU told me I should tell Floyd and Hops the same thing I told this UFC nobody. Which is that if you call to fight someone, get into their zone and do it, instead of pussy-ing out on twitter. Problem is, neither Floyd nor Hops say they want to fight MMA guys.
They have a right to dislike the sport though. There is nothing wrong with that.
I found you GSP's earnings. Since you want to discount Shane's last fight...
UFC 100 - 400K.
UFC 94 - 400K.
UFC 87 - unreleased.
UFC 83 - unreleased.
UFC 79 - 160K.
So Im fairly certain Shane made significantly more then the 2nd biggest UFC draw. But Ill be waiting for you to post his earnings though. So we can laugh together.
You are right everyone has the right to dislike whateversport they want, hell Im sure their are basket ball players who hate foot ball doesn't mean they should go around calling people who play football gay or some other ignorent shit. Just because you don't wanna be a plummber doesn't mean you are gonna trash everyone who happens to be a plummber either
Griffen is one example out of thousands of Ju Jitsu Black Belts, Judo black belts, Kickboxing champions, and even Collage Level Wrestlers.
Trust me fighters like griffen are in the minority.
I don't consider guys getting their black belt in 2 to 4 yrs a master, which i'll bet you how most MMA fighters got theirs. Those type of belts are bought and paid for. It clearly shows when you see these guys fight that they can't even utilize their knowledge even when given a chance to stand up and fight.
Lol at all the crying floyd fans what a surprise those guys will always cry like bitches .
And gay WWF fans will cry about everyone they hate because they know nothing about the sport but just want to tag along.. You suck, get out!
Thank you captain obvious for your next amazing statment will you be telling us that the world is round?
Keep responding cage-boy... MMGAY is shit.. You are seriously butt-hurt over this thread..Every post you took time to respond to..We all own you..Get back you your cage, boy!
Who the fuk said that Floyd or Hopkins called out any one in particular? Can you read motherfuker? Do I need someone to sign language it to you? i said they talked shit "about" the sport dumbass!!!! not about anyone in particular.
And I'll post how much Shane has made the second you post how much any top UFC fighter has made over their last 5 fights. And don't pick some midcarder either.
YOU told me I should tell Floyd and Hops the same thing I told this UFC nobody. Which is that if you call to fight someone, get into their zone and do it, instead of pussy-ing out on twitter. Problem is, neither Floyd nor Hops say they want to fight MMA guys.
They have a right to dislike the sport though. There is nothing wrong with that.
I found you GSP's earnings. Since you want to discount Shane's last fight...
UFC 100 - 400K.
UFC 94 - 400K.
UFC 87 - unreleased.
UFC 83 - unreleased.
UFC 79 - 160K.
So Im fairly certain Shane made significantly more then the 2nd biggest UFC draw. But Ill be waiting for you to post his earnings though. So we can laugh at you together.
I can name a couple on top of my head that are masters in their own art. But guarantee most MMA fighters are not a master of one particular art. Just look at that over-rated so called "martial artist" Forrest Griffin.
1. Anderson Silva= Jiu jitsu
2. Cung Le= Sanda, Kung Fu
3. Machida= Karate
4. GSP= Kyokushin karate
Griffen is one example out of thousands of Ju Jitsu Black Belts, Judo black belts, Kickboxing champions, and even Collage Level Wrestlers.
Trust me fighters like griffen are in the minority.
Beat them in what?? Boxing, MMA, Basketball, Shuffel board???
There's no way a MMA fighter is coming boxing and beating our top boys.
Thank you captain obvious for your next amazing statment will you be telling us that the world is round?