Same old bs seen it all before
I Look forward to seeing these two fight in 2030 when the promoters have su cked enough blood from them and the fans to let them fight
Totally out of his depth as expected and lucky AJ didn't hit him full force.
I give AJ his props for calling out Fury cos I still think thats a great fight and cool to see him giving the crowd some love afterwards
I think prime for prime he would have lost to Floyd and Pac but did we ever really see him at his best? He never had an opponent on his level truly to find out
Either way great career and went out on top
Disagree...Cotto did his best work at Welterweight and was 3 years younger and had only been stopped once (controversially) by MargarCHEATO when he faced Pacquiao whereas Mayweather fought the older, faded version.
So people were saying an older canelo at a non catchweight would have beat floyd in a rematch but in another situation a drained Cotto is more dangerous than 154lbs Cotto who is older?
That's all you floyd haters do just move the goalposts lol
Lmao you FORGOT to mention that among their shared opponents, Mayweather fought older, crappier versions of Cotto & JMM too.
Let's face it, Floyd is a cherry-picker of the highest order and the fact that he only fought Pacquiao, JMM, Cotto, DLH & Mosley AFTER they were old and had suffered multiple losses is testament to this (as is the fact that he fought a green 23yo Canelo at a catchweight) :rofl:
In comparison, Pacquiao has beaten PRIME versions of Bradley, Thurman & Cotto whereas the only prime fighter Mayweather has ever beaten is Hatton.
154 Cotto vs Floyd was more dangerous than a catch weight drained 145 Cotto vs Pac.. come on now lol you can't be serious?
hell I will even give you the JMM catch weight version vs Floyd was not as dangerous as juiced to the gills 147 JMM that sent Pac to the shadow realm but Cotto? you are wrong
difficult to get hyped about this one since Wilder is completely shot to bits. Against Zhang the punch before the ko his brain literally shut off for a second and he had no idea where he was before eating the finishing shot.
Usyk to win in 4 or 5 rounds via the ref stepping in to stop a one sided beat down.
and judah was way more advanced then ray so you make no sense try agian cause ray looks slow on top of making mutiple mistakes they didnt do in floyds time and was missing mutiple advances in movement you crazy person try watching matches idiot
Judah would destroy that whole era and never lose thats how skilled and way more advanced he was
No idea why I'm the only one who agrees with you in this thread I mean no disrespect to Ray he's in the conversation for the greatest of all time
But he was fighting when boxing was in its infancy entering professionalism and a modern fighter if transported back to the 50s would probably be charged with murder for what he would do to those old school fighters never mind Floyd
Sports science and nutrition has moved on 70 years or so since then ..evolution can't be denied Floyd would have insane advantages that negate any difference in skill and talent
The Margarito fight came after the Mosley fight lmfao. That fight in particular was LEAST impressive. Clown casual lol
Wtf are you on about? Were you reading that as if it was in chronicle order? You prick i added the margarito fight as an afterthought because the person i quoted didnt mention it unless.. you actually believe he fought mosley first which took place in 2011 haha either way dont be f*ckin dense
As for you claiming it wasnt impressive you should pull up an old thread pre fight a lot of fans were saying its a step too far given the size difference margarito came in at 165lbs on fight night is 5ft 11in and pac him half to death
You mean between his losses to Marquez II and Marquez 3
His wins over DLH , Hatton and Cotto was were overrated tbh he fought Clottey and Mosley in normal weight and he didn't look as impressive
DLH one I agree he was half dead
I think the Hatton one at 140 was a good win fair enough ricky was coming off a loss to floyd but he wasnt shot to bits he was still a good fighter and pac laid him out stone cold
cotto was a good win cotto went on to have a 'decent' run years after that fight so had plenty in the tank and gave floyd a good fight too years later CW or not a good win
he made clottey shell up for 12 rounds
mosley was not a great win or fight
also the margarito fight in 2010 was one of his best wins despite the size difference he beat that man so bad his eye fell out
again im not a big fan of pac but i have to admit at his peak he was a machine
not even a fan but no he isnt
2008-10 pac beats current thurman and spence imo too fast workrate was insane and had good power
just realised how old this thread is by skipping back a few pages the good old days of ppl hoping floyd and pac will fight little did they know it would be a stinker
Pacquiao - 10 years past prime 10 years my ass lol he was prime until 2010 and Floyd was older and past his prime too if this fight was made earlier it would have been even easier for a sharper faster floyd stop lying to yourself yea I hear you HE USED TO THROW 1000 punches! he can't do that vs floyd it creats 1000 openings to counter its why his punch stats were so damn low vs floyd he cannot beat mayweather
Mosley - bum 10 years past prime coming off beating the **** out of margarito and multiple stupid fans saying floyd would lose to shane for years even if he was past prime floyd took his best shots and then dominated him like he was supposed to
Castillo - LOST ok lets say he lost he then went on to beat him with ease in the rematch floyds held in such regard you guys can't even let him have an off night like loads of ATG have in the past lol
Cotto - 10 years past prime so floyd fights someone coming up in weight and its a bs win but floyd goes UP a weight against a very tough fighter and wins and you still aint happy? hating much?
Hatton - first time at the weight WRONG 2006-05-13 : Ricky Hatton 147 lbs beat Luis Collazo 147 lbs by UD in round 12 of 12
Marquez - cheated on the scales True but JMM at any weight cannot beat floyd you know it I know it ****ty diva move by floyd but truth is there was a huge gap in ability
Canelo - weigth drained afraid of 154 (same weight he fought cotto and you know why? cotto was 10 YEARS PAST PRIME!) same again any weight canelo loses plus floyd was mid 30's too and dominated him 12-0 yet GGG who gets talked about by idiots as this ATG MW gets a draw hell call it a win and it was still closer than floyd ok styles make fights but floyd was and is just a much better fighter than these two
Every time this thread comes up I laugh not because he didn't become fighter of the decade but because of what an ass clown he become eventually
I actually miss those days when Broner was active the build ups were always funny to watch him and paulie was gold
First time I watched him I thought he had cement feet he just stays in the pocket and it turned out thats soon as he is pressured and forced on the back foot it all falls apart
Fighter of the decade? Nope more like the Maidana fight was the funniest fight of the decade lol man that whole thing the build up, the dance as he arrived at the arena, the screwing maidana from behind that chino got him back with, the 1st knockdown face and jelly legs, the overacting to the headbutt, the walking back to the locker room footage and the meme thread on here after fs put him in the hall of fame
Floyd saw that list he **** his pants and he said I am done with HBO the have slave contracts so he run over to Showtime and told them that he would sign with them but that he wanted to fight Khan, Alexander, Spadafora, bobby Pacquiao, Arce, Nonito
please..just shut up.. just STFU
prime margarito wouldnt do **** the mummy would walk forward all night and get the **** beat out of him and have got a glass eye sooner
prime cotto would have had the same result what else could he have done better? taken more of a beating its not like he gassed vs floyd
prime pac? like when he fought JMM first 2 times and then improved so much to being almost invincible yet 5 years laters gets a gift and then KTFO? against a fighter floyd schooled after yet another lay off
casamayor...LOL
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he is being made to follow floyds blue print so he wont lose for a while due to some clever match ups and will likely ended up hated (or even more hated if you like) because of it
50 was saying before they fell out pac dont want none of floyd and would get his ass handed to him anyway doesnt matter floyd pac arum ect are all to blame fuk that fight
the ghost is going to get his stupid weetabix beard knocked clean off
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although I think trout is slightly over rated (he is a decent fighter dont get me wrong) I think this fight is canelos coming coming out party
if he beats trout and does it well then let the hype begin about him being the real deal, until then im not sold
EDIT-btw did they ever release the oscar canelo spar video?
all the fighters he has fought he has made them look ordinary yet before the fight they are the supposed 'one to beat him finally'
the ghost will be made to look an idiot vs floyd
is this going to end up another ducking pac merry go round?
am i going to have to counter with arums bull****
maybe you are retarded if you ignore the fact they are all to blame this isnt about fear of facing another fighter its about arum not wanting to give **** to goldenboy or floyd and that includes bragging rights
and guess what the same goes for dick shaver of goldenboy ect they are all to blame because they are seeped in money they DGAF
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People who hit women make me sick, especially Floyd's type. Hit a real man floyd.
Manny Pacquiao would beat Floyd Mayweather's ass
Canelo Alvarez would beat Floyd Mayweather's ass
I would beat Floyd Mayweather's ass.
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laras all wrong for canelo imo I wouldnt say he is afraid to face him just that another loss so soon will be too much of a set back he is going to be matched carefully for the next few fights by GB
in some way you have to respect his last 3 fights trout (who was at the time after cotto seen as an akward fight) floyd who was too soon and too good for him then angulo who didnt look too bad vs lara