After hearing burner say that Floyd is better and has more skill than Robinson, I wanted to see if there were any non-delusional posters on here. Robinson at WW in his prime absolutely KO’s Floyd. Thoughts?
Well, I think floyd tried copying Ali. But Ali self proclaimed, but then proceeded to fight everybody and not duck anybody, Floyd only got first bit right.
I'm sure anyone who thinks floyd wins h2h, only think in terms of today's fighters have better diets, and are stronger and faster. Not that they think floyd best anyone great in prime or anything like that, or took on allcomers, or deserves to be greater
Take what most of these cats think with a grain of salt.
Most of them weren't even born during Pernell Whitaker's, or even Oscar de la Hoya's heydey, they just looking at stat boxes.
That don't judge what a lot of those old school cats had inside. The intangibles.
Just because Floyd look technically pretty against a faded fighter or a c fighter, don't mean he can do that against the absolute best of all time at their best.
Now you talking the Mayweather that had intangibles, that would be Roger
Just because I said he was better doesnt mean he wins. Cotto is a better fighter then Margarito and lost. Forrestt is better then Mayo and lost. Styles makes fights.
I refuse to pick against Floyd anymore in these ATG fights unless it just some mis match. Floyd is too smart. He would find a way to was my guy
win.
Forrest was a good person a great fighter and generous
I wept (I cried) when news came out that he was killed.
when Salvador sanchez died I wept
some guys are immortal
they tend to die too young
when Hattie got killed by his wife I cried
micky ward was his buddy
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Well he thought he could just say tbe and everybody would fall in line, but it don't work like that.
Meanwhile the numbers are in. Nearly 80% says Robinson will win, despite some of the best (or worst) far flung Floyd Boy analogies.
Well, I think floyd tried copying Ali. But Ali self proclaimed, but then proceeded to fight everybody and not duck anybody, Floyd only got first bit right.
I'm sure anyone who thinks floyd wins h2h, only think in terms of today's fighters have better diets, and are stronger and faster. Not that they think floyd best anyone great in prime or anything like that, or took on allcomers, or deserves to be greater
Ha ha, Floyds resume is decorate enough already with cherrypicks. His resume dont need no more decorations of cherry picks.
He dodged the toughest in his division, bud, spence, bradley, brook, thurman so his zero was intact......mission accomplished.. But it dont do him any favours if he wants to be favourite in fantasy fights with SRR unfortunately for Floyd. So floyd always wanted instant gratification but never thought about things long term. LOL.
Well he thought he could just say tbe and everybody would fall in line, but it don't work like that.
Meanwhile the numbers are in. Nearly 80% says Robinson will win, despite some of the best (or worst) far flung Floyd Boy analogies.
Deck the halls with boughs of cherrypicks. Fa la la la laaaa, la laa laa laaaaa
Ha ha, Floyds resume is decorate enough already with cherrypicks. His resume dont need no more decorations of cherry picks.
He dodged the toughest in his division, bud, spence, bradley, brook, thurman so his zero was intact......mission accomplished.. But it dont do him any favours if he wants to be favourite in fantasy fights with SRR unfortunately for Floyd. So floyd always wanted instant gratification but never thought about things long term. LOL.
Floyd even in his amateur state would destroy ray,and amateurs Floyd fought would to
- - TBE TUE ducks em like he did most dangerous fighters of his era.
What grade they kick U out this year?
You continually make too much sense. You won't be on the Floyd's boy s Christmas present list
Deck the halls with boughs of cherrypicks. Fa la la la laaaa, la laa laa laaaaa
watch any average 70s-80s fighter in full matches,and see if you guys can see advances in tech/timing/fluidity/angles,probably not since a lot here aren't sane and are scared to, we can easily see the 30s-40s looks like novices compared to a average 70s
for ones ascended like me we can see mutiple changes from 70s to 80s,and 80s-90s,and early 00 compared to 70s-80s looks very basic and flawed,we also can see 10 years after the early 00s it became way more advanced in those areas,I feel no need to explain the obvious to people who I cannot change how they see or to make them see,my eyes and others as I said like me who can see and who are sane as I am are the only words I care about
Floyd spent a good deal of his prime at 147 and he couldn't fight the best guys in their prime there. Always excuses why the fights couldn't be made. No need to rehash.
The minute you take Floyd out of his own era, he is up against fighters who beat the best guys in their eras in their prime, in their weightclass and higher, Floyd didn't do none of that
You continually make too much sense. You won't be on the Floyd's boy s Christmas present list
put him in the 130/140 range and its a different conversation.
based on who at 140 chop chop corley and shopworn Gatti? (Rip)
I'm not sure he handles Arguello or Pryor at 140 based on that murderers row
As for Floyd I don't think he could beat any of the truly great full-blown WWs because he was not a full-blown WW, put him in the 130/140 range and its a different conversation.
Floyd spent a good deal of his prime at 147 and he couldn't fight the best guys in their prime there. Always excuses why the fights couldn't be made. No need to rehash.
The minute you take Floyd out of his own era, he is up against fighters who beat the best guys in their eras in their prime, in their weightclass and higher, Floyd didn't do none of that
Floyd didn't fight guys in his own division so how can he best SRR? If Floyd had of best brook, bradley, spence, thurman, then I'd say he could possibly best SRR.
You making too much sense for these Floyd boys to comprehend
Floyd didn't fight guys in his own division so how can he best SRR? If Floyd had of best brook, bradley, spence, thurman, then I'd say he could possibly best SRR.
Mayweather is better than Robinson and beats him quite easily actually.
Come on y'all come up with some better mythical matchups.
Floyd even in his amateur state would destroy ray,and amateurs Floyd fought would to
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Look up him vs sammy angott george cliff tony freddie valentine andy nonnels and tony ancona Dykes,same obsolete tech and flaws as the older one that fought gene/jake/joey and others looked like a novice still even in prime,crazy idiot
People make him out to be invincible but I just think H2H, Floyd and Leonard can beat him. Ive seen more flaws in Robinson than I did in Floyd and given the fact that I actually lived through his era makes me understand him better. I just dont think one can make fair assessments on a fighter when they didnt live in that era. Watching a bunch of black and white films dont do much for me tbh and there arent enough fights available in his prime for study.
im just not convinced by all the part time railroad workers and opponent with primitive skills he's beaten.
Well everything I said is from video side by side and even if we had his prime he still would fight like I said with the same flaws as I said the whole era looks horrible and would be destroyed by floyd 1st round ever 1 of those guys
Nobody who watches full matches with good vision can see any of those novices giving people Floyd fought trouble let alone him
Floyd would destroy him 1st round the first early matches i seen with floyd fighting way more advanced people showed this
This is from earlier this week watching on my laptop and srr side by side and a man named Clemente from 1978s vs danny is 125 and is moving way more fluid and way more advanced he is using feints on top of able to combo faster on top of using lateral movement
how about carlos a middleweight as ray was using lateral movement smoothly able to pick off shots from range smoothly and duck and counter smoothly
Srr looks sloopy stiff making mutiple mistakes im watchin him now vs joe he looks nothing like these guys so tell me what i need to research anything at when im watching and saying exactly what i see and dont
ray and this era looks to be very over extending alot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements
they dont fight from range much,they leave themselves open alot
alot of times will just throw to the body and not protect themselves the carlos era was able to protect to body with 1 hand while punching to the body
they use mostly counters when up close,the lateral movement is very basic they dont seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly they have to stop then punch most the time and their feet are mostly tiptoeing instead of carlos era where its like their a quarterback ready to throw the ball
these wasnt big name guys but they clearly as are way more advanced then rays era on top of being more fluid and made less mistakes
People make him out to be invincible but I just think H2H, Floyd and Leonard can beat him. Ive seen more flaws in Robinson than I did in Floyd and given the fact that I actually lived through his era makes me understand him better. I just dont think one can make fair assessments on a fighter when they didnt live in that era. Watching a bunch of black and white films dont do much for me tbh and there arent enough fights available in his prime for study.
im just not convinced by all the part time railroad workers and opponent with primitive skills he's beaten.