Even with a healthy shoulder, he loses. Shoulder wasn't the problem, he couldn't cut the ring. He had no answer for the check hook, the jab, the lead right, nothing. As soon as Floyd touches the ropes he springs off with a check hook and escaped, Manny had no answer for this.
What good is a healthy shoulder when Floyd proved too elusive and intelligent.
honestly don't see what people brag about with crawford.. why is he so special. .mattysse will not knock pacquiao out, i doubt that power will carry over into welterweight, even if it does, he's too damn slow to catch manny, he'll be another brandon rios. .what the hell does marquez have left at this point? i don't wanna see that sht, the last image of that rivalry should be pacquiao dead on the canvas, juan shouldn't ruin that. . khan is the most skilled out of this bunch, yeah i know all about his chin, but he has the hand speed to match manny.
but pac gains nothing beating any of these guys, his legacy is already established as the second best of his generation, none of these opponents will change that.
LOL @ Mayweather and Ellerbe trolling the FIomos LOL
Pretty sure if Floyd was looking for "dangerous" there was a guy named Triple G out there...
Why don't they just be honest:
"Listen you guys are FIomos, so you will buy the fight because it's Floyd"
you honestly think floyd would get credit beating a "drained" ggg at 154? get real.
When wasn't Manny doing testing cause as far as I kno he has always been tested.
pacquiao changed his stance on testing when marquez sent him to the moon with the right hand heard round the world.. before that, he wanted cut off dates, he feared needles, it was against his religion, it weakened him, etc.
Not really
I mean hes not terrible but I wouldn't call him THAT skilled
He was more of an athletic beast in his prime
The version that Mayweather fought was worn down and faded
That's crazy because Manny looked like a superhero in his previous two fights. So he's only worn and faded against 38 year old Floyd? . .but I'mma need you to define "skillful boxer" because i'm confused now.
I don't think Floyd has cherry picked all his career. But he has been cherry picking recently. He's only been picking brawlers to fight. Brawlers are a feast for Floyd. Floyd eats brawlers up.
Floyd does have some trouble with skillful boxers. When was the last time we saw him fight a truly skillful boxer?
Wait, so Pacquiao is not a skillful boxer?
Reduced Floyd to the worst offensive performance of his entire career.
http://www.si.com/sites/default/files/2015/05/03/mayweather-pacquiao-highlights-punch-1.gif
floyd washed him on first gear.. he didnt need to bring the A game for an opponent so inferior. . maidana brought the best outta floyd, pacquiao was abysmal. well at least he got the payday.
Lol! That's funny.
You know that only works if he never fights a guy bigger than him.
You Ward fans act like GGG has to give up his MW goals because you want him to lose.
finally we're getting somewhere. ..you admit little g would lose to ward..
that goes to show how much faith you have in the guy.. im actually a bigger ggg fan than you because i actually want to see him test himself whereas you want him to keep stacking up the tomato cans
asking little g to move up ONE division is equivalent to asking him to drink cyanide according to his irrational groupies.
This is nothing but the truth. Its funny how people look past certain individuals domestic violence allegations while criticizing others.
jake lamotta was a rapist and sugar ray robinson beat his wife so much she suffered multiple miscarriages .. they still legends doe. :boxing:
Arum is obviously in Mayweather's pockets. . Who else is in Floyd's pocket ? NSAC, USADA, judges, referees, Obama, the Pope...etc , anybody else im leaving out let me know.
Nah real fans know he picked a shot pac 5 years too late.
He ducked, He avoided, he pretended to wanna clean up the sport yet his own stable kept testing positive .he wants to fight guys when he feels like it which is also at the perfect time
Truth is he has a pattern of avoiding prime threats and lets them lose burn out or become shot.
He picks average guys off of victories over overated or small figjters..
Floyd has a pattern he developed.
get it right.. pacquiao ducked random testing until he was broke with the IRS coming for him. thats when he agreed to fight. .dont rewrite history, this fight was done for march 13, 2010.. all the chump had to do was some punk a.ss blood tests.. he declined $100 million to face clottey for chump change. he's the one that ducked mayweather, not the other way around.
and judging from their previous two fights prior to May 2nd, floyd is the one that actually looked more shot and past his prime. maidana made him look old and beatable. against rios, bradley and algieri pacquiao looked like a super hero. so in fact floyd was the "shot" fighter in the ring on may 2nd.
oh is he? when? in 2018 after 3 tune ups? and you Ward fans wanted GGG to go directly to 168 to fight Ward. Talk me about contradictions...
no actually according to duva and roc nation its supposed to happen next year.. quit using kovalev as the shield to hide little g's scary a.ss
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12038507_1646879902262410_4007932325452093278_n.jpg?oh=188ba180839849fbd727c431876a477a&oe=569401FB
these pac turds keep bringing up floyd's movement, he ran too much! ..i didn't see manny have a problem with that with algieri ,he just dived in on him with no worries.. why didnt he do that against floyd? you idiots can say floyd doesn't punch hard but obviously pac disagrees because after the FIRST right hand smacked him in the face he became cautious and started thinking twice before lunging in.
remember roach said the plan was for pac to maul him from round 1. .that plan had to be scrapped because floyd's right hand was locked and loaded at all times. .so how can you say floyd doesn't punch when manny was wary of the counters the whole night!
floyd was simply himself that night, but manny was different fighter, where was the "buzz saw" ,where was the crazy angles and 200 punches a round?? ..this was a damn schooling in the sense the most explosive offensive fighter was reduced to a wannabe cautious boxer, floyd controlled the pace at all times, the ring GENERAL.. and in case you idiots didnt know thats one of the four criteria of scoring a boxing match. .the other is clean punching, floyds jab COULD NOT miss and right hand was a laser.
another criteria is defense, judges score defense believe it or not..and pac swinging wildly at the air makes an impression. .another is EFFECTIVE aggression, pac was getting caught rushing in, that aggression is NOT effective.
UNANIMOUS DECISION
go dive in salt water.. it heals the butt hurt
Jesus are wards fans retarded....obviously they have never boxed........172 against a 158 fighter is a huge gap in pro boxing......it's 2 weight classes .......u can't bulk up that much over night.....yes he said 168 for froch and chavez because they are lesser skilled boxers that's a fact....it's like facing Mike Tyson or Tyson fury.....you would want more money for fighting iron Mike than fury wouldn't you......common sense....jeez......now a word of advice to ward your a light heavyweight with top fighters waiting to face you.......kovalev...beterbiev......stevenson......stop picking on naturally smaller fighters and fight someone your size......there's more than enough to test you
:dance::dance:
thats all i need to know... now i get why little g is running scared like a beeyotch
He doesn't have a link because that's bull**** and the reason why the case was settled out of court. He's another brainwashed idiotic Floyd fan boy talking out of his ass and making things up without pure facts. It sickens me how absolutely stupid some people are on this forum to simply just create falsehoods out of thin air. Opinion is one thing, but bending the truth to support your personal revisionist history is another. Every time this ******* posts something the world's collective IQ plummets.
how the hell you got 65 posts and joined in 2008.
pacquiao won rounds 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10 and 12
floyd only got rounds 1,5 and 11
http://i.imgur.com/yUmHCib.gif
http://i.imgur.com/n2ALapo.gif
http://i.imgur.com/9OJI49H.gif
oh damn you have some gifs of floyd getting hit in a boxing match..sht, guess he lost then..
GGG is willing to meet the small guy at his own weight, idiot. Dropping in weight is a big concession. Ward is willing to make no such concession despite his B side status. Not to mention Floyd is still a bigger scalp than GGG, in rep and far more in money stakes. Just take your butthurt elsewhere, you're useless here.
lol stop being emotional. .little g should stop picking on midgets. . floyds heaviest weight is 151.. little g would be at least 170 on fight night, stop this nonsense. .you cant say ward is picking on little guys but justify this. .change the topic you're hurting yourself
No one is questioning who is the more accomplished boxer
But Mayweather put up a poll with only two fighters and promised to fight the winner of the poll
Khan won the poll and Mayweather fought the other guy :lol1:
How is that not a duck
At that time Maidana was the hottest thing in boxing, and I remember clearly people saying if Floyd fights Khan then he's ducking Maidana. That guy cannot please everybody.
you dont like it.. go see him.. dont gotta be a contract, just throw down at the gym.. and record it. lundy found a weak spot and best believe hes gonna keep kicking it.
ward said he would fight anyone at 175 years ago. everyone talks big. what matters is who is fighting the best in their division. is it ggg or ward? lets see ggg is fighting 2 belt holders in his next 2 fights while ward turned down bute, stevenson, froch 2, and degale while trying to fight caleb truax, sartison, and paul smith.
woah.. can you prove he turned down all these fights? got some links.