shanes going down!
i`ll take great pleasure in this as he`s a dirty cheat!
anyone who cheats(ie steriods) in a sport like boxing deserves a good ass kicking!!!
I agree wit u man. If Haye loses where we at? Klits might getta unification with Chagaev after he beats Valuev. Chagaev lose by wide decision cuz dude can't land anythin. Arreola and Dimitrenko? One has suspect chin and other got weight issues. Povetkin is KO waitin to happen and boom that's all she wrote people. Haye jus gotta get it done and make shit interestin ya kno?
if haye wins then we`ve finally got an interesting hw division again!!
its a shame there`s no americans tho! (arreola still has alot to prove!,as does haye,i guess!)
i wouldnt write off haye too soon! wlads chin aint exactly solid + haye can BANG!!
(saying that,even lennox got caught a couple of times and he was the last true hw champ!!)
thats the beuty of the hw div tho!! 1 shot can close the show!!
floyd actually pursued a 140 fight with kostya.
by the time floyd was looking for a fight with tszyu , tszyu was in talks with hatton. kostya chose to fight hatton instead because at the time hatton was more money than floyd.
floyd could have gotten a fight sooner with kostya but he took a few tuneups at 140 first and fought gatti for his belt first.
he obviousley didnt persue it enough! sounds like a big DUCK!! to me!
another biased dipshit.
how come hatton DUCKED floyd at 140 after the gatti fight saying he needed more "experience"
DUCK
keep dreaming wee man!! LMFAO!!!!! i guess thats why hatton chose to fight him at 147 instead?
knowing pbf he probably ducked hatton at 140!!
mayweather aint got the balls to face hatton at 140!!
why was mayweather crying after he ko`d hatton?
i think its a bit arrogant to say penn/gsp cant be like haggler/hearns! how do you know?!
nobody could have predicted haggler/hearns would have been the way it was! you never know!
although despite that i think both fighters will show each other to much respect for it to be an all out war! but... who knows?.. bj penn`s a bit of a crazy horse!..
i think it`l be a classic either way!!
but barnett/yvell? come on!! yvell won 1 fight in pride and lost about 7/8! if barnett loses that i`ll be shocked!!
the pinoys are big gamblers so that will affect prices!!
although i favour manny i wouldnt bet my mortgage on it!!
every fight hatton has people consistantly write him off!
i dont think its quite so clear cut!!
should be a good fight imo!
the singing is a good thing! it creats an atmosphere that doesnt exist in american sport!
(although the "hatton wonderland" song gets a bit old after the 1000th time of hearing!)
ive been to amereican football matches,nhl matches & basketball games and compared to a british crowd, the atmosphere is practically non-existant!
british fight fans are the most pasionate in the world! and while some may be a little misguided(ie booing national anthems,beating people up etc) its a shame that other fans arn`t as vocal or as passionate!!
hatton is one of the best loved sportsmen in britain since frank bruno! he transends the sport but thats not unusual in britain! 300000 fans went to germany during the2006 world cup!(biggest travelling support in the history of sport!) thousands of fans consistantly follow the england criket team to places such as pakistan,india(even after the mumbia terror attacks) and australia!
this isnt a new thing!
brits have always been the best fans in the world!!
what exactly has "bad" chad done to deserve all of this hype?
he was lucky to beat a 40yo johnson, and he outpointed a 40 yo tarver(big f@%*ing deal!)
also why do you think taylor is doing everything he can to avoid a fight with froch?(who beat pascal with a broken rib?!)
not only that! he stood toe to toe and slugged it out!(if any of you know what its like to fight with a broken rib then you`ll understand!)
i think froch-calzaghe would be a far more credible fight than calzaghe-dawson or taylor-froch!
taylor lacks the heart! dawson lacks the name! at least calzaghe-froch would be a big fight in the uk!(ie 60-70000 fans in cardiff!)
this is a bullshit thread!! how exactly could it cause a fight? or why would any brit smuggle a bomb into the venue? LMFAO!!!
just because the brits are the loudest,most passionate fans in the world!!!
that can only be good for the game!
how many times have u seen froch fight? i find it hard to believe that you are educated enough to make that judgement!
calzaghe may be a more exprerienced fighter(& arguably more skilled?)
but froch is undoubgtedly the (much)harder hitter and is also a skilled boxer with a proven iron chin!
i have followed the careers of both fighters and am also a fan of both but i think froch would give joe a tougher test than dawson or johnson!
i also think froch could stop kessler late on!!
tua was poisoned.
the drugs started taking affect after the 1st round.
it's obvious an unpoisoned tua would beat lewis. :)
LMFAO!!!!!
ha ha! lewis was a bum really!(lol):stupid:
As much as I dislike Calzaghe's fighting style and demeanor, I think the only one who gets exposed in a Froch fight is Froch. Froch may score a flash knockdown on him in the 1st, but going on recent history, you might as well call the fight over for Froch if that happens. The one thing you can't argue about slappy Joe is his ability to adjust his gameplan mid-fight if things aren't working for him. Kessler is a tougher, and more skilled guy than Froch, and Calzaghe handled him, I don't see a Calzaghe-Froch match going any different.
A proven chin :lol1:
How can his chin be proven when he aint fought nobody? Reid was nearly 40 and he isn't exactly Thomas Hearns when it comes to power.
You are having a laught mate. Froch give Calzaghe a tougher fight than Dawson and Johnson. Dawson has beaten good solid oposition as too has Johnson. Froch has fought Pascal thats it. Froch is record is built on wins over bums on the BBC.
froch has never fought on the bbc!
dawson has beat "good solid opposition" LMFAO!!!
he was (very)lucky to get a decision over 40yo johnson (who beat woods once out of 3) and 40yo tarver! no more impressive than froch!
at least froch has heart & personality & fanbase!
a grudge match with froch would be far more interesting than "bad"(lol) chad!
and before u mention it adamek is a chump too! he only beat "uss" cunningham! (chump)
the only fights floyd would come back for are pac-man at 147 or hatton at 147!
he aint got the balls to fight cotto,marg or williams!
he aint even got the balls to fight hatton at 140!
he was lucky to beat dlh!
when he was at 140 he ducked tszyu!
at 147 who did he fight?.. baldomir!!!
he only fought hatton cause he knew he had a height/weight/reach advantage!!
did you see the tears of releif when he beat hatton?!!!
floyd jnr`s a great boxer but he`s got no balls!!
Which hotel will the weigh in be on Fri 21st Nov in Vegas? Also, at what time??
dont know mate? but if u find out let me know cause i just got a couple of tickets! also do you know how much binoculars cost in vegas? lol
Welsh not British.
Cymru Am Byth.
The post of a man, and i salute you except for one thing. Joe is Welsh from Wales and we dont class outselves as Brits in Wales. Its like us Welsh saying all you Americans and Canadians are the same because you sound EXACTLY the same to us...otherwise, great post!
this is a boxing forum mate! not a place for anti-english propaganda!
i know for a fact that there are plenty of proud welsh brits!
im an englishman who grew up in glasgow where there are also plenty of proud brits! (and plenty who dont class theirselves as brits)
ps joe calzaghe was born in england
for the record wales,scotland,northern ireland and england are all british!!
you guys are just bitter cause american boxing is going down hill
i bet all you guys predicted lacy,hopkins and jones to beat calzaghe
i`d like to see calzaghe fight dawson just to prove a point, but who has dawson beat anyway? a washed up tarver(39) and glen johnson who`s about 50! (and in my opinion won the fight anyway)
if dawson beat hopkins then he`d deserve a shot at joe
as for hopkins/calzaghe 2, hopkins got a couple of god shots in but he didn`t come to fight he came to steal the fight! by the 10th he was doing nothing but holding and play acting!
you all saw the difference when hopkins fought pavlik (another jeff lacy,ie the next big american hype!!, and also (correct me if im wrong) but pavlik is the only ring magazine champ from the usa
the uk has three ring magazine belts(would`ve been 4 but david haye moved to heavy weight)
so dry your eyes girls and get used to it!!! ha ha!!
i guess its not really your fault!!
my father has lived in the usa since i was a young boy!
so i have visited the country many times! & while i always enjoy my time there(ie great food,great weather,attractive-easy women(who love my accent!)... + as my dad lives in cali, i get to go to vegas for the boxing!!!)
usa is agreat place but you guys need to understand the truth in why your country is great!!!
i think jones jnr was an hof! but why didnt he fight benn/eubank??
you cant blame the brits coz the contracts were on the table!
its a well know fact that jones wasn`t keen on a fight with those guys!!
boxing politics suck!!
lol...that's some excuse...the first to...huh?
Granted, the Dutch or the Portuguese initiated/started the trade. But Great Britain commercialized the trend with her many colonies. Being the first to realize your mistakes don't earn you a medal. You guys ****ed over a lot of people, Africans, Iranians, Chinese and many more..You can't expect them not to hold a grudge....you guys are falling for this whole political correctness crap in a sitaution where all these guys want payback, and i can't blame them either. But we got your back, we got too much in common.
That why America is the best..we keep the world in check, in balance...for now anyway.
"THATS WHY AMERICA IS BEST.. WE KEEP THE WORLD IN CHECK,IN BALANCE.. FOR NOW ANYWAY"
wake up you f#*%infg idiot!! i guess you are a big believer in propaganda!!!
i personaly think the us is a great place! but the level of pure ignorance that exists is f=#&ing unbelievable!!!!
wheres all the ****ing idiots blindly defending usa???
i thought they were supposed to be the shit!!!
or maybe thats what they like to believe!(or what there ****** government tells them!!!lol!!!)
jst to set the record straight,american people aint bad.. the country initself aint bad but this idea that the usa looks after the world and the usa has got our back is pure propaganda & bullshit!!!!
OK. How many square miles of real estate does that island of yours cover? What is the population in England, not the U.K...ENGLAND!. I have lived in England for many years, i have family members based there. Your infrastructure is weak, your populated cities are congested, living conditions are horrible, even if you own a house. You have to make numerous concessions for basic needs, yet you guys walk around like the stuff of legends...it's so amusing. It also amazing how you Brits are equipped with selective memory. I can recant all your past flaws if you like. At least over, we may/may not correct our flaws, but we admit them and make laws to protect/prevent them (even though it's just for show).
Now..regarding your militarily might, you can quote me rankings all you want. But your military is more like an add-on to the American War Machine is Afghanistan, and/or Iraq. Like Japan, you lacks the resources to sustained a war effort against developed or developing, you're still somewhat dependent on your former colonies for resources, and being resilient doesn't mean you're gonna win (WWII). You've limited pool of manpower for infantry, and in this Nuclear age, You and many others could be wiped off the face of the earth.
You do have beautiful countryside though.
listen!!
dont insult the british military!!
i lost 75(+)% of my fAMILY fighting in the 1st &2nd world wars!!!
my grandfather was the only surviver of the 1st(&2nd) ww in my family! therefore i am the last of my family line!!!
my family fought & gave thier lifes for their country & freedom!
so i dont want to here some bitch assed prick telling me i owe them for anything!!! so **** you you over privaliged ignorant moron!!!
lol...that's some excuse...the first to...huh?
Granted, the Dutch or the Portuguese initiated/started the trade. But Great Britain commercialized the trend with her many colonies. Being the first to realize your mistakes don't earn you a medal. You guys ****ed over a lot of people, Africans, Iranians, Chinese and many more..You can't expect them not to hold a grudge....you guys are falling for this whole political correctness crap in a sitaution where all these guys want payback, and i can't blame them either. But we got your back, we got too much in common.
That why America is the best..we keep the world in check, in balance...for now anyway.
of cousr the usa has never ****ed anybody over!!lol!
the uk only finished paying you guys off a couple of years ago!!
thats right!!! if we didnt agree to pay you guys billions of dollars then the germans would have slaughtered us! but thank you for getting our back!!!(lol)
"hats why america is the best!!..... we keep the world in check!!
the fact is more british troups have died due to cowboy/poorly trained/trigger happy american troups than iraqi/afgaghn troups!!
i bet they dont tell you that on the news in the usa!!!!
god bless propaganda!!!!!! (uv got our back!!!! lol!)
lol well haye is gonna need to win by KO for sure now cause he wont get the decision
are you saying it will go 12 rnds??
coz it wont!!
vlad will have to pull A BIG! perfrormence out of his ukrain8ian ass to win this one!
call me a "nuthugger" if u want but haye comes from bremondsley(south london) those boys dont take no shit from no-one!!
i accept that vlad is the favourite but IMO vlad aint a fighter! haye is!!...
cant wait for this!!!!
there will be a few haye haterz eatin some humble pie after this!!!IMHO!
dawson`s a chump!! who has he beaten? a 40yo johnson(deputed) & a 40yo tarver!
and some people beleive he is good enough to beat calzaghe! LMFAO!! he may well be good enough but he is nowhere near close to proving that he is worthy!!
if he could beat hopkins then i would beleive!
dont beleive the hype!! (jst another lacy/pavlik! IMO)
Make it in haye's backyard.
dont worry guys!!
the fight will be in london!(ie big money!!)
german fans(or any other fans) cant compete with english fans!
should be an exciting fight!
will be a helluva`n atmosphere!!!
cant wait to hear what the (so called)expeerts say when haye ko`s vlad!!
Oi Oi their will be scots, welsh and irish all their as well :boxing:
sorry mate!! as an english born guy who has lived in scotland most of my life and going by public opinion(ie people i know) i assumed that most scots wanted haye to lose!! but if this is not the case then it warms my heart and i sincerely apologies!!!