He is already 27 years old, and he is incapable of learning anything at this point. That kid's future looks bleak. Mexicans, in terms of skill set and heart, will always be superior to Filipinos, in my opinion. I apologize for offending you by stating facts.
How would you know if he is incapable to learn anything? What a crap remark.
and then making it about Mexicans being superior... Yeah that is your opinion and what a close minded one at that. Never did I bring race into this, so imo you're just a bleeding anus.
I completely agree with you. Magsayo is a total ******* who should never be permitted to compete in a big event.
Dude, both you and the TS acting like Magsayo stole you guys husbands. Pure salt for no reason.
Sure Mark is still young and has a lot to learn. We will see how or if he improves in the future. He needed this lost to reevaluate himself.
Dog why do you always have to throw in disgusting remarks, cant you have a civil discussion without dissing someone? He shared his opinion without insulting you but you got offended as if you are Magsayo himself or his lover or something.
Magsayo himself or his lover? Still mad that I said you had a husband I see. Hahaha! Grow some balls.
Any way you look at it, his statement about Mexicans over Filipinos is racist. So if you are ok with that, I'm guessing you have a bleeding anus too ( respectfully). LOL!
Edit. Sorry forgot it was your thread. Had to add respect on the anus jab!
JMM is a favorite of mine due to his tenacity.
His 1st fight with Pac is legendary.
Pac bloodied him up, knocked him down, but could never end him.
Look at you bags! You're coming full circle!
The more research the more appreciative you become of Manny! LOL!
Rooting for Porter!
1. To humble Bud a little, maybe get some PBC fights for less $ than he wants.
2. Shawn is game and given every ww he has fought an uncomfortable fight. Pulling for the upset here.
IMO, can't see Bud stopping Porter. Decision win more than likely.
I want Bud to lose only for the fact that it will make him hungry and take less for other hopeful fights. Shht better late than never. He needs to leave TR.
Who said that Cotto is an ATG, he lost all his meaningful fights that would had propelled him to that status. He lost against Pac, Moseley and Canelo, he simply couldn't get over the hump.
Correction bro. Cotto did beat Mosely. One of if not his top win.
Used to have ppv parties, be trashed even before the main event popped up. End up watching the next day sober alone, lol.
Nowadays, I watch random fights on YouTube while I eat dinner and when I'm smoking. Probably just 3 times a week, got shht to do. It sucks
The Philippines must really be hard up for champions if they're proud because of that performance.
That's what I'm trying to say.
For one, I don't live in the PI. But I kind of agree. At least Marks win over a ring rusted and injured GRJ, he is still dangerous was a better watch than Casimero s over Rigo, that ish was painful to watch.
So...are YOU or aren't YOU impressed that May fought those same guys Pac did (when he did) ?
Y or N would suffice
Keep your essays to yourself.
what don't like reading? Want me to say less things so you can steer the narrative?
Only DLH.
I'm impressed that Floyds milked got you hooked.
Less is bess when you pollute a comment with excuses :lol1:
May would have killed that version of DLH*
Hell, I can't think of a guy who wouldn't have :lol1:
Now that we have the nonsense out of the way. Pac getting paid to fight so many shot fighters should have been a crime.
Pac's entire WW career is just 2 names -
May and Thurman
How in the fck is a so called honest fight fan going to claim ANY SEGMENT of May's career is worse ?!?!?!?
What excuses? Like I said I know Floyd too and can appreciate his skills without downing another boxer.
Floyds resume doesn't hold weight on its own?
Post it up, show your man love through your posting!
I'm sure someone's proud somewhere.
Mark who just a few months ago earned that mandatory shot against GRJ. What is he not doing correctly? And in hindsight, it was the perfect time to go after Gary.
I think the real question is Are you and Gary done crying?
What bias ?
I mentioned Pac's ''accolades'' and his fans are getting triggered.
What am I missing ?
What you're missing is every time you post and downplay Mannys post 2012 fights as his greatest hits that is equivalent to you milking Floyds tits. Each and every time. Floyds nips be tortured bro. Just stop!
He was the best of a very deep generation. MFers think just because he didn't fight a couple of guys (mostly Paul W and Margarito), that he would have lost or he ducked them :lol1:
Of the 2, PW would have been the tougher fight. A caveman like Margarito beating anyone significant is a fable written by Arum and spread by his cronies.
PW, while having size advantages, was too aggressive for his own good. Slow and uncoordinated AF Margarito was able to land at will. To imagine May doing any worse than Margarito is silly. May and Sergio are about the same size (May vs Sergio would have been awesome) and Sergio handled PW.
People like to say triangle theories don't work.
Which can be true. At the same time, fight fans need to follow the dots -
May didn't fight Margarito, but did fight DLH, Maidana 2x, Cotto, Mosley, Nelo and Pac. Kept his 0.
I don't give a single FCK about triangle theories.
Margarito would have been another easy W where haters would have said ''May was supposed to beat him.''
I swear man, the way you defend Floyd. On point, you would change the man's underwear for him no doubt!
I get that you weren't interested in Floyd fighting PWill, Sergio and Marg. Does Floyd have the skills and Arsenal to pull off a win in all 3. Not as easy as you think looking at their styles and other physical attributes.
PWill was long and lanky with power. Don't want to see that style match up?
Sergio southpaw, power, very awkward. Really not Floyds cup of tea. Imo.
Now marg, does Floyd have it in him to keep Marg at bay wth pot shots and running. Embarrassing win at best.
Again we know all you want is brag about Floyd and lick his armpits. Yeah we know.
Then don't bltch about it
Never bitched about it. Only wish it had more substance. You'll give me the he so skilled he made his opponents look ordinary crap.
Not sure how long you been following Floyd but if you think he wasnt capable of of a little more without giving up advantages and maybe giving advantages. You would not have to downplay anyone else.
If you were really a true Floyd fan, you would be more disappointed in the fights that were not made.
“Prime” is the most annoying term used in debates and maybe all of boxing. Is one boxer allowed to be in his “prime” longer than another boxer? Can one boxers “prime” be maybe just 2-4yrs? Another boxers 10yrs? One boxers prime be aged 22? Another’s aged 32? How can your prime if meaning at your very best not be equated to a single fight? If a fighter loses does that mean they weren’t in their prime? If everyone listed their opinions of fighters “primes”’ their would be no consensus. We all know how hard it is to make fights in boxing. How does one fighter manage to stay in his prime while also fighting all his opponents in their prime also?!! How do all these fights happen with both fighters around the same age? With all of them starting at the same weight to coincide with meeting at the same weight?
So is “prime” you at your best ever performance or is your “prime” the years you could have been at your best? See how annoying that is? A guy can be 30yrs old and way overweight and poorly training. Still that could have been where his physique and experience crossed to be potentially at his best just based on what we know about humans and sports science.
Staying in shape, making weight, lasting is part of boxing. Guys get punished for staying in better shape and training harder consistently than others? How do you stay in your prime while also fighting all your opponents in their prime also? Cause it’s so easy to make fights?!! Everyone’s the same age? Some fighters who are before or past their primes are still a lot better than fighters in their primes. Even if a guy fought every fighter in their “primes” there’s no way that all those fighters were even the most challenging option out there.
Go ahead and let someone define then write an algorithm if they think it’s so simple. A bit of an older example but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, kids today think Mike Tyson’s first name is “Prime”.
I agree with most of your post. Being prime is all about timing as well, and maintaining that level of momentum.
When discussing Prime and figuring exactly when it was for each individual fighter. It woyld be the easiest to determine when they are done and looking at the entire body of work. Imo.
I dont know my friend, Tyson before he became champ the very first time. His focus was straight laser. I love the Iron Mike with just a towel over his head.
''Pac shouldn't be playing politics :crying:...''
''Pac was in too many wars (GTFOH) and needs to retire :crying:....''
''It's wrong too nitpick Pac's #3ATG resume :crying:....''
If you think May's resume is lacking, show it.
I don't have a problem with it :boxing: !
When you are a professional boxer who is kind of part time it's kind of dangerous. And is frowned upon? Common sense, no?
I appreciated Mannys career, sorry that you can't.
Reading comprehension is today's lesson. Floyd had the the skills but his A-side antics will and still haunt him.
Is it really Manny and his fans fault Floyd doesn't get the general publics love and respect? It's not, I'm here to help clean your tears bro.
Of the 2, you seemed more defensive about Pac.
Asking me to post up his resume. Cmon. we ALL know May's resume CRUSHES Pac's.
Anyone who says May could have done more.... like fight the guys PAC DID ?!?!?!
Why does Pac get a pass
Not one MFer EVER talks about all of the shlt guys he fought
Yet have the audacity to question May ?!?!?!?
I can't be disappointed in May's record when Pac is around. His will always be worse !
Defensive really? If you look back in this thread YOU brought up Manny. I dont need to bring him up to talk about Floyd.
This is your problem, Why do you have to keep interjecting Floyd into Mannys resume and his opponents? "He can beat him" type arguments are weak sauce and you can't see that?
Again, I question Floyd bc of things he has done in the past. If you have seen that one response back in the day abput fighting Cotto, floyds response was " He lives in Puerto Rico". Very annoying, and yeah I as a fan back then I was disappointed.
Have a good day brother.
You seem perturbed, though.
Shame how May would have gotten skewered if those were his accolades :lol1:
Perturbed at what? Your weak argument? Never see you posting the list of killers mythical champions that Floyd fans keep bragging about.
when you do, the nitpicking can and will be equal to your opinions of Manny. No cares really.
What, you no likey seeing Pac's accomplishments ?!?!?!
#3ATG :lol1:
I know Manny's accolades. They are respectable enough to hold their own merit and be placed in the history books whether you like it or not. What he has done doesn't need any defending honestly.
It's really just insecure fans like you who show no appreciation. It'll come do more research.
I guess. Seems like something a true fight fan would be perturbed about.
True fight fan ok. I know Floyds accolades as well, I respect them also. Appreciate his skills, but have always doubted his heart. ( after dlh win, timewise).
Your bias-ness actually just shows you just a b!txt boy. Not worried about your opinion too much.
looks like some of us hold magaska in high regards and some of us, not so much.
The jokes about rankings, ok. Magsayo's limited skills I get that too.
But your misspellings with the Asian stereotype that just makes this thread and you kind of douche. Nice job, you pulled it off well.
The real joke is Pac fighting -
Shot Clottey
Cotto*
Shot DLH*
Shot Mosley
Shot Algieri*
Shot Margarito*
Shot Rios (Baby Margarito)
Shot Broner
Shot Lucas
Vargas
Bradley 3x
HORN (CPGW)
Arum milked Pac for all he was worth. Finding as many shot fighters as possible. Kept him away from May (and needles) for years !
Aahhh bags, I thought you graduated from this post already, smh. Keep hating on PAC, he can feel your tears from the PI.
Sidenote- ask Floyd about "door dash tue s". They do home delivery!
If he had won impressively that would be one thing. But he looked terrible against an obviously injured opponent.
Lol, I know. He is still very raw. I hope he ups his game or it will be short lived.
Ok, I will ask you the question that haunts djmt
Imagine those names I mentioned being on May's ledger....How impressed ARE YOU ?
Take your time :)
My honest opinion is and I've said it here back in the day. That Manny plyaing politics and after JMM4, I said he should retire.
He was spent and relying on his ring experience, very under rated defense of blocks and feints. He was in the game for a long time straight with many wars.
But go ahead and tell yourself he wasnt impressive. Just bc your can't or choose to see. Not my fault.
Boxers know what they signed up for so I don't understand the 1st sentence
IOW, you're biased. TBF, I also like guys who go for the KO. But when a guys is fed so many easy pickings, it gets boring.
How are negative comments aimed at May more impactful than negative comments made about Pac ? Here's the thing, you can't make up a ''narrative'' truthful enough to justify the guys Pac fought (and only mostly beat). This is why Pac Bois HATE IT when I mention all of those names. They know what's up. They know had those shot fighters were on May's resume, they would be fuming !
May took on the bad guy persona.
Pac the smiling, ''humble'' guy.
It played out perfectly for both of them (mostly May).
So, whenever someone wants to post up their angst pertaining to May's resume, I encourage them to do so :boxing:
Don't need to post Floyds record. I watched the majority of his fights.
What's funny is here we are many years after Floyds retirement and him doing there exhibitions, lol. And his fans here and other places still trying to convince others how great he is. Floyd and his fans are all insecure, pretty simple. Nice chatting.