pathetic, STANDING 8 COUNTS ARE FOR PUSSIES AND BIASED REFS, if u are wailign on someone and about to KO him why would u want to ref to step in and save the fighter and rob u of a win if your oppenets come back, standign 8 count is a horrible thing, if the man isnt fighting back and he is on his feet the ref stops it for a tko
Biased refs? It gives them an excuse to stop a fight, when a simple standing eight would suffice. When a fighter gets beat up and knocked down, he gets ten seconds to recover. A standing eight counts as a knockdown, just without the fighter having to go to the canvas. Seems reasonable to me that they should get a chance too.
Yeah, Paez is pretty cool. The only thing I've heard about him lately, though, is that he could be one of the opponents for Chavez during his farewell tour. Paez's kid is fighting now too by the way. El "Maromerito" just recently turned pro and has two wins under his belt.
I really liked the guy, but why did he fight so infrequently in the last year? Why do people dislike him? Why doesnt he get a big title fight? Hes a paradox to me.
Some people don't like Machito just because he's the son of Hector Camacho. Other people don't like him because he had a lot of potential but hasn't done anything with it. In recent years, he's fought weaker and weaker opposition. But it's hard for him to get a good opponent because no one cares about him anymore. He didn't fight in the last year because of promotional problems.
He's said the down time did him well, though, that it helped him refresh his interest in boxing. Hopefully, it really did. I didn't get to see his last fight. Apparently, even though he was training in Arizona for two months before that fight, he had to put on about seven pounds just before the fight because they gave him a middleweight opponent at the last minute. Hopefully his team will be able to get their act together to get Machito some better matches. If they do that, it will give him another chance to prove himself and maybe win back some of those fans who have given up on him.
I definitely agree. There are a lot of times when a fighter is hurt and just won't go down. You know if he just got a few seconds to recover they could get back in there and do fine, but as it is the ref has no other choice but to stop the bout. I'm all for bringing back the standing eight. It's kind of like not giving a boxer a ten-count when he gets knocked down. Of course Castillo should have gotten an eight-count. Now we'll never know.
But if Kellerman was there, why did they let Costas talk at all? He obviously didn't know what he was talking about. He even went so far as to say Chavez Sr. was known as the baby-faced assassin (Barrera). I miss Kellerman because he's so optimistic, and unlike the other commentators he doesn't depress me to listen to him talk.
Chavez Jr vs. Camacho Jr.
Hector Camacho Jr
vs.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
Who wins, and why? Anybody think this fight is going to be made?
I think Chavez Jr. is ok, for a Jr., but I dont think he is going to become a "real deal".
If that fight's made, it won't be for a long time, though people like to talk about it a lot. Of course, Machito has a lot of experience and is coming off a year-long layoff which he said helped him get back some of his desire for the sport, so I'll have to see his next fight to see how he's doing now. And on the other hand Julito is still fighting six-round fights and his handlers don't plan on moving him up to ten-round fights until 2007 (with all eight-rounders next year). Of course if they fought right now, I'm pretty sure Machito would win, but last I heard he does fight in a higher weight-division too. In the future, I'm not so sure. Julito definitely has the dedication and the discipline to improve a lot in that time. He's already come a long way in the less than two years he's been boxing professionally.
As for all the exposure, I don't see how the kid could not get exposure. He draws crowds, and I think it's great to get to see all or most of his fights. The best boxing reality show is definitely real boxing. It'll be interesting to see how he develops as a fighter through his entire career instead of just seeing him once he gets to the top. And he'll fight those top guys some day, but it won't be for a long time (and probably not under welterweight).
And for those of you looking at the schedules right now on BoxRec, no, Chavez Jr is not fighting both July 29th and July 30th. I know he keeps active, but that's just ridiculous. It's really just the San Jose fight on the 29th. :)
Chavez on PPV
The fight has to be PPV. I don't think anyone else will show it. Aside of just being for really big fights, pay-per-views can also be for those fights that not as many people want to see, so that they can choose to watch it themselves. Besides, if they showed it on regular tv, then they'd only show a couple of fights from the card, and that would be a real disappointment because I know there'll be a lot of other great fighters on there.
I Want to See Chavez in Texas
I thought the fight was pretty good, and I look forward to seeing him fight in Texas since I've never been to one of his fights before. It's great because I'll get to see both Julio Jr. and Omarcito also, although they probably won't have Junior against a decent opponent on that card either so his dad won't have to worry about that before his fight. By the way, was anyone there and saw Omarcito fight last night? I haven't heard anyone mention it.
I feel terrible that Ruiz had to go out like that. I thought he was fighting well, but somehow I got the impression that he was just training to fight Klitschko instead of focusing on Toney. Anyhow, I wish him the best in any future endeavors he may have.
De la Hoya's a smart fighter. I don't always like it that much, but I can respect it. But I don't consider him Mexican at all, so it always annoys me how he considers himself Mexican. And I hate how he always dissed Chavez. Even when he would compliment Chavez, it would always come out as condescending. I just hope De la Hoya stays around a few more years to give Chavez Jr some time to mature and then avenge his fathers losses. To me that would be the most wonderful thing in the world.
I don't think the reason is just that it's Tyson. I think Merchant hates all Don King fighters. At least he doesn't give Chavez any respect either. I don't know, I just prefer to hear more positive things about the fighters. I think the fighters deserve it even if they aren't as good as the guy's they're fighting. It would be great to hear a commentator point out the good things that an underdog is doing in the ring. The one thing I like about Lampley is he does do that from time to time, but I have never heard Merchant do that. I'm still waiting.
Lampley says a guy landed a punch even if there was no punch thrown at all. Maybe they'll have to replace the whole team. Who wants to be the new commentators?
Yeah, he has so many other things to do besides boxing these days, but I think eventually a really big money fight is going to come along and he just won't be able to resist it.
Both Camacho Sr. and Jr. are fighting July 9th in Tuscon. It's supposed to be televised so you can see him then. And Chavez Sr. isn't going to get into any fights where he can get brain damage, so I don't mind if he keeps fighting. In fact, I think it's great because of the atmosphere at the events and because there'll be great undercards. But the one person in boxing who most needs to retire more than anyone else is Larry Merchant. I will be so happy when that day comes.
Chavez has already said that if this fight goes well, he might fight again in Texas. I don't mind him fighting, but I'd rather see him fighting some easier opponents. Not boxing can be bad for his health if he gets bored and starts drinking again. Anyhow, I'm just hoping he gets more involved with his son's career so he can keep busy that way. I'm really looking forward to the fight though. I'm getting the ppv. I hope they also show the Omar Chavez fight. Chavez forever!
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