Here's how I see it. If the picture before was posted is true ( Come on people anybody could've constructed the picture and posted it on the net) Then there is a definite stain which in turn looks like blood. Now I seem to forget, the Commission is analyzing all of this stuff right???? So correct me if I am wrong anybody, hasn't forensic evidence advanced drastically over the years????? You know if there's in fact a blood stain on the wrap, that the commission is going to atleast try to tie it to Cotto or even a past fighter that Margarito fought. Now if they can tie Cotto to that blood stain. Then, nobody can say anything. Until then. Like I stated in my past messages. Bitches talk the talk, Men walk the walk.
Nah man. I'm not one of those people that condemn Marg, but legally they can't tie that to Cotto. The NSAC would have to get involved, and it's way too easy for them to just turn the other cheek and absolve themselves of any blame. You really think they would risk the credibility of their commission to investigate something that happened so long ago after they already said they saw nothing wrong?
It's gonna be something that we'll never know, and it's just gotta be left to that.
You may be right. Until then, Cotto fans and Margarito fans will be going back and forth. Unless there's a rematch next year, however there are alot of hurdles to jump for that to happen. It sucks that this sport that we love has to suffer like this. This is what's killing the sport. You'll never see shit like this happen to baseball ( And just for the record I am a die hard Mets fan). McGuire, Bonds, ARod- And still Baseball will not lose a beat.
PBDS stands for Pussy Bitch Dick Sucker
Shot out to PBDS. You are swolle like a butter role. This wanster is talkin mad shit. He must be a hard core Cotto fan. PBDS shut the fuck up and take the loss like a man. Your boy gotta knock the fuck out by the better fighter. Take how you want mother fu****
Margarito vs. Cotto
If U think Margarito would stop Cotto, U are either Mexican or a Floyd Fan!!!
Margarito isn't as good as Cotto's last victim; Mosley Who has Margarito beat that is a legit boxer? and inmature Cintron and...?:tapedshut
Response to this quote. First off let's be real, Mosley is an old man just like De La Hoya. If Cotto fought Mosley at his prime Mosley would have beat him hands down. Actually a lot of people had Mosley winning the fight against Cotto, but that's another subject. Second, Margarito has heightened his game. His defense is not all that, however you are going to get hit alot against him. And he has one of the best chin's in boxing. Also he is not scared of anybody which makes him very dangerous. Third, Cotto has a suspect chin ( just look at the little guys who made him wobble in the past). Cotto isn't knocking out Margarito and is going to have to rely on his boxing. Be sure Margarito will be putting pressure on him all night and will be testing that chin. No one ever puts pressure on Cotto because either they don't have power and are scared of getting hit alot by Cotto. I think it's going to be a great fight and the tougher fighter will win that night. When it gets down to it my bet is on Margarito because he is a work horse, the harder hitter and the more hungry boxer. Cotto seems like he is going too complacent and cocky. He better watch for the Tijuana Tornado.
Juanma is niave
Juanma is still young and hasn't been exposed to the game long enough to know any better. Trinidad can't even make a decent weight to fight De La Hoya at this point in his career. Plus Papa Trinidad is getting way too old and crazy by demanding a 50/50 split w/ De La Hoya even when Trinidad can't make a decent weight. I don't respect De La Hoya as a boxing fan, however I won't deny he still has more drawing power than any boxer in the game to date. Plain in simple Trinidad is washed up and De La Hoya still has some shine to his stardom. It's Simple- just look where the two fighters are at right now, at THIS POINT IN THEIR CAREERS.
Putting myself in the others' shoes/ Out of Sight Out of Mind
Even if they prove that he was guilty this time, that won't prove he did the same vs. Cotto or anyone else. It will make all those fight results highly questionable, but it won't prove that he was guilty in those previous fights. So it wouldn't vindicate Cotto, but it would destroy Margarito's credibility. Plus he would probably have his licence suspended. I certainly hope he would.
Also, as others have said, even in the case of the Mosley fight, he is innocent until proven guilty, and people should wait until the investigation is complete before declaring him guilty.
I agree with you totally. Let's just say for the sake of argument, that Margarito is found guilty of using a illegal substance that would harden in his glove and give him an advantage. Unless there is physical proof or evidence you can't say that he used this substance in any of his previous fights. However, there will be that question mark if he did or didn't. And Margarito's credibility will be lost. I know almost 100% of the people that are hoping and writing that Margarito used this substance against Cotto, are Cotto fans. I don't blame them for thinking this because Cotto is idolized in Puerto Rico and to even think somebody would do something like that to their Puerto Rican Warrior just upsets them and makes them mad ( I admit if it were the other way around I would be pissed too). The fact is, like I said if there's no physical evidence, you can't prove anything.
Now I ask all boxing fans a question and challenge you ? Why isn't Shane Mosley brought to light in these talks. Ahhhhh, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND. Now Shane Mosley declares that he unwillingly took steriods. He claims that he was unaware that the substances that he was putting in or on his body were a banned illegal substance. However, we do in fact know this. Mosley DID TAKE STEROIDS. NOW HOW CAN WE BE SURE THAT HE DIDN'T TAKE STERIODS BEFORE THE SECOND DELA HOYA FIGHT??????? What then? There is no evidence of Mosley taking steroids before the De La Hoya fight????? But there's that question mark???????????
TWO FIGHTERS WHO SUPPOSEDLY CHEATED ( I ONLY SAY SUPPOSEDLY BECAUSE THERE IS NO RULING OR INVESTIGATION RESULT YET FOR MARGARITO ), HOW TO DO YOU IN FACT, TRUTHFULLY, HONESTLY, CORRECTLY, 100% POSITIVELY KNOW- THEY CHEATED BEFORE THE INCIDENT.
I got mad respect for Juan Manuel Lopez. He's a great fighter/ boxer and very talented. However, I gotta say, this is making him look bad. I know nobody is buying the money excuse. Lopez is scared. This looks bad on his part. Caballero just made Lopez his son. Run Lopez Run!!!!!
You still rolling with the fagg3t jokes bro? you are one lame ass Rican, dude is that all you got?
I'm just trying to help this poor fellow. I think he has lots of frustration and hate that he needs to get out. I'll let him take it out on me if he wants, I don't care. He may be Puerto Rican, nonetheless he's latino. I'm always willing to help my latino peeps. But you're right this kid has alot of growing up to do.
I think he let his emotions get the best of him.
Word up. This old man is biased because he saw how cheating affected his son's life. However, I don't blame him for lashing out and speaking with his emotions. I'd probably do the same if I was his age and went what he went through.
Tijuana Tornado is # 1
To all the haters and people who didn't believe- I'm not going to point you out, you know who you are. In the words of when the NY Giants upset the NE Patriots. " Cotto you and your fans GOT STOMPED OUT !!!!! Arriba Margarito!! The Tijuana Tornado!!!!
The fact that Freddie Roach is even considering training Antonio Margarito when Margarito himself is planning on fighting in Mexico during his suspension in the US should get Freddie glasses smacked off.
I think if Margarito goes through with fighting in Mexico than Freddie Roach won't end up training him in the future. Roach is also dead on - If Margarito fights in Mexico he could say bye-bye to his license in the states.
Nah, bruh…..definitely not a hater……I’ve never once said “margarita sucks” or no shit like that. Honestly, I think he’s a good fighter…..
But let’s be honest here, didn’t margarita blast DLH for fighting pacman instead of him? Yes. So now, why would margarita be thinking about doing basically the same thing. I kno you’re a margarita fan, but even you have to admit this shit is kinda flaky……
C'mon, you are a hater admit it. You even misspell my boy's name just out of hate. It's spelled MARGARITO. Don't make me correct you again. I do admit I didn't like how Margarito kept attacking De La Hoya. He was pissed that's all I can take from that. De La Hoya promised him something and he didn't keep to his promise.
To all the Haters
You can do nothing to stop the Tijuana Tornado. Paul Williams time will come soon. You wait and see. Sometimes a tornado can't be controlled but when it hits- IT DESTROYS EVERYTHING IN IT'S PATH JUST ASK THE VICTIMS. Paul and Dan keep eating Watermelon.
not sure if it matters.....better than sitting out an entire year.
I disagree. If he fights in Mexico its a big slap in the face to the commission in the United States. He'll also lose what respect is left of his peers, other boxers, and fans if he does fight in Mexico. He could easily stay in shape for the whole year and spar with other fighters to try to stay in fighting shape.
Mayweather is # 1 Marquez is # 2 Those are the fights that make sense and have history. Funny how Pac has had catch weights fights with Cotto, Margarito, De La Hoya etc.,, All of sudden there is a set weight for Marquez at 147??? Haha unbelievable !!!
Wait for the investigation? lol jajajja he got cought in he act. What the investigation will do???? He got cought, theres no way out my friend.!!!!!!!!!
So let me ask you a question?? If you are accused of something, a crime let's say, and some evidence is found- does that mean you are instanly guilty- You have what's called a trial, right??? You know that's when you go to court and a lawyer defends your rights. Maybe you didn't know that, but you do now. You are going by what Golden Boys people stated. "Plasterlike" substance was stated by Golden Boys people. Read the thread again about the controversy. I'm not saying Margarito is innocent. I'm just saying I don't know exactly what was found. Until we know EXACTLY what was found, people like you are just talking out of their ass. That's all, buddy. Oh and you are spelling your words wrong. It's HAHAHAHAHAHA NOT JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA. JAJAJAJAJAJA is another sound.
Controversy is Controversy
Yeah because having a extra layer of tape to protect your hands is equal as having a cast in your gloves, GTOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was a controversy nonetheless. They made Trinidad wrap his hands three times just like they made Margarito wrap his hands three times. I'm not saying that everything they said about Trinidad ( For example it was said that there were excessive layers of gauge/ tape-and also the wrappings were being wet- so when dried would be rock solid- It was like having brassed knuckles ) is the truth, however he was obviously doing something against the rules (illegal) in the way his hands were being wrapped. My point is that no matter what, they were both doing something illegal ( Trinidad, Margarito ) or else they wouldn't have had to have their hands wrapped three times. Hence, controversy. No matter how you slice it. People can't get it twisted though. You can't try to blemish what Trinidad did in his career before the incident just like you can't blemish Margarito's career before the incident. Also the investigation is still pending. Let's wait and see the results.
I'm gonna keep it real. I like Cotto, no homo. Mad humble, talented and a warrior. But i don't see him getting the W's against Marg and DEF NOT Pac. We haven't really seen what Steward has done...I personally think Cotto goes back to his old habits. But we'll see in this fight with Mayorga. BTW i hope Cotto knocks this dude into another planet! "Payaso Nicaraguense" - the words of Cotto! haha! I would rather see Cotto - Berto. That'd be a fantastic fight! my opinion.
Well said. Cotto should be able to handle Mayorga easily. Margarito will be a tough fight ( especially at a higher weight class which in my opinion gives Margarito an edge ) Only way Cotto beats Margarito is by outboxing him and not going back to his old habits. Pacquiao is a totally different story. Pac will destroy Cotto again just like the first time he needs to stay away from Pac and he will.
There is only one Antonio Margarito. Cotto could spare with 1,000 sparring partners and it wouldn't make a difference. Cotto better get ready to fight with a machine on July 26th. Prediction= Margarito by KO.
I'm Gonna Lay this shit down for all the Haters
As boxing fans already know look at the fighters Margarito has fought in the past- Lujan, Clottey, Williams, Cotto, Cintron- P Williams resume doesn't even come close to that. I would not give Margarito the best Welterweight title yet because he still has unfinished business with Williams, he has a match coming up with Mosley and a possible rematch with Cotto. For all the haters out there let me make it clear. Margarito did not take the rematch with Williams because he was looking forward to bigger and better things. He wanted to fight De La Hoya for the huge payday he felt he deserves. However, De La Hoya chickened out. Then Plan B came, a rematch with Cotto that will certainly give him his biggest payday yet. For all the haters out there who have no education- this is a business move plain and simple. Now I give one question to all the Margarito haters- If Margarito defeats Mosley, Cotto and P Williams all in 2009- Is Margarito crowned the best Welterweight? Will that be enough to shut your caca mouths?
Yeah, welcome to Trinidad-De La Hoya, which was 9 or something years ago, I rember debating this in 2003.
Exactly- OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND MY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truth
Oh and by the way atleast no matter what happens we stick to our fighters. Not like Quintana and Cintron who were dumped to the garbage by their fans after their losses. Win or Lose we still love our Mexican fighters because that's a true fan. That was for you too Perla.
La Perla you were talking mad smack too before the fight. I wasn't going to ice but you asked for it. You and your little Cotto gang are pathetic. HA HA. Cotto lost and you are still talking shit. Bro stop piling the shit up. If you wouldn't talk so much then I wouldn't have to bring it to this. Just look at the Cotto pics man. Hahahahahaha. Keep whining and crying. Mexico got the win.
All this Compubox stuff doesn't mean anything. Both fighters' records doesn't mean a
What it comes down to is heart and who is willing to give it all in the ring. Margarito will die before he lets Cotto knock him out. Cotto better be prepared to fight all night and not one second less. The only way Cotto wins is if he runs. Margarito will be on him all night like white on rice. Cotto better get a metal plate on that chin.
The one doing the crying is that bitch who's balls you love to suck on.
Hhahahahaha. Don't get Mr. Bobo. Here I'll give you some more. :bottle::bottle::bottle:
If there was a pic of a pacifier, I'd use that instead.
I am Puerto Rican... It's simply not possible for me to hate on Mexicans. I will point out facts all day when Mexicans claim Arce is old at 31, but throw a party when Segura beats a 36 year old Rican fighter.
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Your hate for Mexico is crystal clear with your quotes and pictures you obviously have no honor. A loss is a loss, take it like a man and stop making excuses. I thought it was a great win when Juan Ma beat Marquez was much smaller. Calderon had a great run beating lots of boxers who were bigger than him. They met their match, take it like a man and show some humility like 98 % of your fellow Puerto Rican fans on these forums who show respect and have honor. Nonetheless, Mexico is # 1 in boxing !!!!!! Can't deny bro.
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that's ok. my avatar is me.....not another *****......that's gay as hell.....
you hug margarito's nuts so hard, you don't realize it when somebody's giving the man a compliment......margarito's pressure and punches broke cotto down, his chin gave him the ability to withstand cotto's onslaught.....get it???
nobody watching the fight can say cotto was the same fighter in the second half. why? because margarito's endless punches finally caught up with cotto. it's no secret that if you go to the body, you slow a fighter down.....that's why cotto's legs wouldn't work....because of margarito's punches. i'm not a hater bruh, never taken credit away from margarito's performance that night....quit hiding behind the man's nutsack and you might understand the difference between criticism and haterism.....
You soft little man, I just schooled you with knowledge and all you got is hate comments. I broke it down for you buddy. Maybe you should stop hiding behind that weird ass avatar of yours and people might start taking you seriously.
The start of a Devastating Tornado
I hope this fight comes through. It definitely would be good for boxing, although everyone can see Mosley is losing his mojo. If the fight happens and Margarito wins- this will definitely shut up all the niave critics. Good feeling the Tornado is going to do some MAJOR DAMAGE in 2009. Arriba Tijuana Tornado!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just from reading Peterson's words- You know that the Williams camp is lying. I guess concrete evidence like a letter that was provided to Boxing Scene has no barring in this case. Williams needs to shut the fuck up and go eat some watermelon.