i say up there with the u.s.
1. u.s.
2. mexico
3. puerto rico
This posts correct and if any1 thinks differntly they are pretty much wrong
if u start talking p4p and take countries populations into it then yes its different
but if americans try to make out boxing means more to them then it does to other countries they are kidding themselves
I can't pick this one. Whitaker had a great jab. So did Wright and Hagler. Moorer's wasn't shabby at all either.
yeah hagler was the first to come to my mind wen i saw the topic
hahah martinez is a MW for 1 i'd pick cotto and marg to beat bradley and williams is 6 foot 3 at the end of the day he cant fight everybody and some1 is always going to have sour grapes and say he ducked me
My Top 5 P4P Fighters
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Chad Dawson
3. Andre Ward
4. Timothy Bradley
5. Paul Williams
oh wat the hell hahah im gunna take a stab in the dark this guy has to be black
my list
1. pacquiao
2. mayweather
3. jm marquez
4. martinez
5. williams
1. Even Arum said a big part of the appeal was the stadium. Is Arum a flomo, also?
2. is 24/7 the only way to promote a fight? How did they promote fights before 24/7's?
3. You idiots in your mud-floored huts need to learn the history of the sport.
mud floored huts haha hes got fans from every country hes universal remeber we already covered this oh but your right i paid for the ppv so i could see cowboys stadium sense the sarcasm u think ppl from other countries bought it to see cowboys stadium i barely knew who the cowboys were
gotcha. but this based on PPV history. when was the last time shane was on PPV and what were the numbers? there is no excuse for why pac only did 700k. all we know is that he went from 1.25 with cotto down to 700k, the very next fight. and coming off all the publicity of the failed negotiations with floyd(because pac walked away)
cotto v pac did better coz once again ppl thought pac could lose that one with clottey there was no chance anyway where off point here im not arguing about whos a better draw out of pac or floyd if floyd fought clottey next probly be 700 k aswell im saying it is not unreasonable to think pac v marg does a mil
it would be at 154 and like somwhere else mentioned taking on marg in mexico at 154 when u have never fought that weight b4 is more gutsy then ppl are giving credit for
It will do somewhere in between what the clottey fight got and what the cotto fight got 900k maybe 1mil would be good, i think this fight is being underated it will be more of an action fight then a floyd fight would be. marg a real puncher plus size advantage they say power is the last thing to go in a fighter. There is the chance he could hurt manny still with all that said my money is on the pacman
its no longer just the filo's and mexicans that drive a pac fight like it was when he fought MAB and morales. with manny's achievments over the last few years he has gone universal. 1 mil is achievable
shane isnt a PPV fighter. HBO even passed on Mosley Mora which proves this.
floyd did 1.4mil with a none draw. cotto is a draw but shane isnt
even marg is a bigger draw than shane
i wasnt bagging floyd i know he can pull big numbers thats what i was saying but clottey completely pulled no1 atleast with the floyd shane fight shane was coming off a good win and half the draw to that fight was that ppl thought for the first time in ages there was a chance shane could pull off the win where with the manny v clottey ppl knew manny had it in the bag thats y the numbers wernt as good
I really hate this
how after manny beats some1 theres a problem with them. delahoya will smash manny 'oh no he was weight drained', hattons a beast at 140, 'oh no he was past it and overrated', cotto will kill him, 'oh no he was damaged goods', clottey will be big and dangerous 'oh no he s a class B fighter'
ppl saying hatton and cotto were damaged goods they had 1 loss for god sake and hattons loss wasnt even in his own weight class by this stupid logic pacman has been damaged goods and past it since 1999 wen he got ko'd give credit where is is due u bloody clowns
The Roger Situation is the most plausible reason for Floyd's no-show. Bob's reason for the deadline - "I've got to organise press conferences" - is frankly ridiculous. (Danny Green had Roy Jones on show for press conference via video hook-up from America.) However, if Roger gets a couple of years is it curtains for Floyd? Thus condemning Pacquiao-vs-Mayweather to the fantasy forums?
yeah roger situation is prob the reason every1 has to bank on roger being innocent even the pac fans who hate the mayweathers if they want to see the fight atleast by next year certainly dont want be debating this fight in 10 years time
If manny was universal, why did Cowboys Stadium look like Payatas on a Saturday night?
if manny pacquiao is not a universal star then why am i a white guy from australia on a boxing forum talking about him lol think that proves my point also he pulled 700 k by himslef besides floyd no1 else would do that
was ali damged goods after the loss to frazier no he came bak and won the god damb title. 1 loss dont make u damged goods other wise nearly every fighter is. Damaged goods is the most over used term there is and gets used as an excuse way to much these days so ppl need to cut it
agree with the ts out of the 2 mentioned id say marg just because its new and will prob be more competitive then first thought especially at JM rather then WW where pacman would trounce him. ppl will say marg doesnt deserve the shot but im thinking of the fight and it will be an action fight
I hate it wen ppl use hearns and **** to bash pac or floyd your comparing a guy who started his career at a weight they are finishing there careers to put it another way why dont u talk about a hearns holyfield fantasy match you know since hearns finished there and holyfield started there or doesnt it suit your agenda.
Pactards teach me patience. I posted the link to the Article showing where Where team Mayweather said no Negotiations are going on but you Pactards act like you are seeing things.
teach me patience how bout teach u some common sense i dont need no article to tell me wats going on use your use your head they talked for godsake i didnt even need to hear greenburg say it u just know it was going on
but if your gunna post an article saying there was no talks u might aswell post all the ones saying there was talks going on jeez its a he said she said thing going on but use ya head please
oscar admitted it then says he was tired didnt mean it haha wat a joke that is
why did they wait till after the deadline b4 talking bout these negotiations they didnt know about umm let me guess yeah that would be the gag order that was in place
Oh shit, I just realised you are Aussie :)
So you must know ?
hahahah yeah mate i know who chopper is was just wondering why he put that pik of chopper as a reply to my message haha maybe he was taking the piss out of me i dont know
So who was ross negotiating with then? Don't just say someone from the mayweather side. No start callin out names so they can go interview that person. But on another note. If pactards REALLY thought that Mayweather would fight Pacquiao on Pacquiao's DATE!!! you're outta your damn minds. Mayweather calls the shots he'll pick the date, the weight, the split, and everything else cause that's just the way it is. Pac better step his PPV game up. And fighting Margarito just ain't the way to do it.
damb boy that sounds like a fighter i want to support sounds like he must battle through real adversity.....any1 sense the sarcasm
The guy that lost to both Casamayor & Juan Diaz. Didn't JMM KO both of these guys? :ugh:
I would rather see JMM fight Soto for the undisputed Lightweight championship chief. :boxing:
well jmm didnt ko diaz today and i rekon katsidis would beat diaz at this moment aswell
katsidis deserves the shot and it would be a great fight to see
Cause he`s a Jew backing another Jew and Arum has a fight set-up with Pacquiao/Plasterito.
Question to the Roidtards,Why would Floyd team Negotiate with Greenburg when Floyd made it clear on video interview that he`s taking the rest of the year off?And also Team Mayweather have been saying for weeks that there is no Negotiations going on except for Oscar who later admitted that there was no negotitions going on After Schaefer exposed him.
And why don`t Greenburg name the person he negotiated with from team Mayweather?
great another spanner talkin crap
why would any person in the right mind wait until the deadline is over b4 saying there were no negotiations heck if it was me in floyds shoes and i had a deadline counting down id get on tv and say heck sake theres a coundown waiting on my reply and i dont know shit about these negotiations wat the hell is goin on
fact is negotiations happened floyd now the one copping all the flack from the media and there coming up with excuses use your brain u douche
u were probly one of the fools the other day saying if negotiations took place why doesnt greenberg say so and now he has it still aint good enuf for u coz he hasnt included precise details of times and who he talked with but if he comes out in a few days with that info it still wont be good enuf for u
actually they both are disgraces
but Green is the bigger disgrace of the 2 since he cherry picks his opponents, doesn't fight the natural top CW in the world, and sets a catch-weight
and yes, Green makes you look like pussies, not Briggs :poke:
dont get me wrong im not overly happy about greens choices in opponents either im just so angry rite now at briggs coz he dived he flat out dived green cherry piked him yeah but everyones cherrypiked b4 have a look at the first 10 names on every great boxers resume but wen u put on a performance like briggs did it hurts the sport so bad plus handpicked or not a guy whos fought for world titles should not go down like that briggs should shoulder the blame hope he loses all his jobs
what were the terms? if arum said that greenburg nor himself heard back from team mayweather, how did mayweather supposedly "agree?" who was greenburg talking to ifschaffer said he wasnt talking to them?
all simply questions
1. oi wanker oscer himself came out and said the fight is close why would he say that? anyway the point is negotiations took place
2.do u really think in your own mind that no talks were held? ask yourself and use some common sense isnt brain surgery
3.u trying to twist it making its sound more complicated then it really is
4. u still a clown and nothing is gunna make u change your mind so on second thoughts dont even bother reading my post
Danny Green, you ****ing disgrace, he is the one who should have been yelled at and should have been the target of all the raging fans. He pickes dead opponents that are finished or haven't fought in a long time. He even dares to set a catch-weight of a blown-up LHW.
opponents that are finished or havnt fought in a long time bahahahahahahahahh my grandpa is 95 and he aint ever fought in his life and he'd give a better showing briggs is a disgrace everything he ever accomplished is down the drain tonite is all he will ever be remebred for if u here his name in 10 years time wat just happened will be the first thought in every1's mind not only is he a disgrace to boxing hes a disgrace to australians making us all look like pussy's
what were the terms? if arum said that greenburg nor himself heard back from team mayweather, how did mayweather supposedly "agree?" who was greenburg talking to ifschaffer said he wasnt talking to them?
all simply questions
also why do any of your questions matter ur biased to the point that even if greenburg comes out later on with more info detailing the negotaitions u still wont believe him anyway
hell he could come out with tape recordings of him chatting to floyd himself and u still wouldnt believe it coz then u would look like an idiot coming on these forums every day baggin pac and suking floyd so u wont admit your wrong ever