- -Prime athletic years and undefeated.
Thurman has had more elbow surgeries than Curt Schilling. He moonlights as a fighter occasionally. Guy got wobbled by Josesito Lopez in the fight prior.
That said, it's still very probably the best win any 40 year old has ever nagged. Pac's longevity is insane.
45 yr old Foreman beat Undefeated Michael Moorer for his WBA Heavyweight Title
Foreman over Moorer
Hopkins over Pavlik
Fitzsimmons over Gardner
Duran over Barkley
Walcott over Charles
Holyfield over Ruiz
Nelson over Ruelas
Ali over Spinks
Only Foreman and Hopkins were older than Pacquiao. Thurman is a reasonably better scalp than Pavlik. Moorer is arguable. Good company to be in regardless.
Who has Jermall turned down? lol
I believe he got in a mandatory position for Canelo, then the WBC made Canelo franchise champ which made Charlo's position worthless. Otherwise, he seems to be in the same place as Andrade, except Andrade is fighting on DAZN where there's plenty of competition in house. They just don't want to fight him for whatever reason. Whereas Charlo's in house comp is Korobov and not much else. Should rematch imo. J Rock has talked in passing about coming up to 160 for a rematch. That'd be a good fight. Not sure how long Hurd can make 154 either.
Crawford's team wants the Spence fight in theory. Not sure they're willing to make the concessions to get it. Spence has tons of options open to him. PBC has all the top WWs outside of Crawford, SWWs as well. Not to mention Spence having a commanding advantage in terms of negotiating the purses with his PPVs eclipsing Crawfords. Bud was still talking about a 50-50 split last I saw. Bob Arum prob told him he could get these fights made. Looking more and more like a liar.
This is the trashiest most classless embarrassing ****ing content I have ever seen produced by that idiot bruce vane.
Listen to him brag about drinking and driving for 2 mins during a video where he's telling everyone what he KNOWS about the Errol Spence accident, aka nothing but speculation? **** this guy.
Radio Rahim and Seconds Out put a video out saying Spence went from "serious" to "critical" condition based on a single British news source when all local reporting confirmed otherwise, with several primary sources reporting Spence had been conscious and communicating prior. The source itself didn't even say that much. It merely listed his condition incorrectly.
Probably the grossest media action I saw during this whole thing.
Internet journalism is so piss poor it's embarrassing. You'd think with all the information people have access to now it wouldn't be as easy to make mistakes like that but everyone just wants attention and clicks so verified sources are meaningless.
The only journalism that even occurred was all local stuff by JD Miles of CBS Dallas who got a hold of the video and reached out to the police for details regarding the DWI investigation. He broke the stuff about Errol having broken teeth which hasn't been confirmed outright but is feasible given his confirmed facial lacerations.
Besides that, it was all press releases from Mike Smith and PBC and like a phone call DiBella got.
These "news outlets" are reposters. **** is sad.
If the investigation is handled ethically, I don't think it's outrageous to charge him with a DWI, reckless riving, criminal negligence or whatever. Of course, I think karma got to him first, and the US penal system, not to mention Texas specifically, is a cruel joke as far as justice and rehabilitation is concerned. So I'm not sure how productive that would be. It's a miracle he only hurt himself and came out alive. Rooting for him to straighten his behavior out regardless of legal proceedings.
A lot of transparent pathology is coming out in the reaction to this near-tragedy. I'm not a fan, personally. Of course, it does make it easier to spot the aggrieved reactionary who would be better served watching Nascar.
Canelo is fighting a legend 2 divisions up after fighting the consensus 2 and 3 guy at MW already.
It's not just because he's boring. But that's a funny, truthful dig as well.
The worry for me is that it looks like Spence might genuinely have a bit of a drinking problem, I have seen him in a few interviews clearly drunk.
Apparently he doesn't drink in camp. I've only seen him drunk at fights with his buddies. He's always in the gym and usually in tremendous shape. Of course, if it bears out he was drunk here, it's obvious he needs to make a change.
yeah rocky fielding was a legit champ :chairshot
and even that fake fight had a rehydration clause.
Lol, I advise you don't look too closely into what belts and opponents the other people in that graphic used to achieve the feat.
Some good fights there looking forward to GGG dere, Taylor Prograis, usyk spong, inoue donaire and obviously Ruiz hammering AJ again
Lubin-Gausha might come together for October 26 as well. It would be on this list if it was confirmed.
Nah the only think interesting about that fight is Canelo going to 175. Kovalev is washed. Just cuz he is winning dont mean hes not washed like some keep thinking. Its a 80/20 Canelo fight & likely the only way the 20 comes into being is if Canelo does not take to the extra weight at all.
And yea that is likely to be a fun young cats on the way up fight.
Canelo is 5'8 and his only wins at 168 are against no hopers. To think he has it in the bag versus a career LHW with one of the best jabs in the sport is pretty naive. I would definitely take those bettings odds for Kovalev.
Of course, Canelo can't lose on the cards, and Kovalev is pretty brittle now. Can't throw the big straight anymore. But his amateur style makes him even more reliant on his jab. If Canelo can't slip that, he can't get to his body. Would be a really tough fight for him.
Definitely a bigger challenge than Gvoz should have in keeping Beterbiev on the end of his jab. If he's all he's cracked up to be. There is little nuance to Beterbiev's offense. He mostly relies on guys letting him in and standing with him in the pocket.
Lol...
I actually had the pleasure of watching Loma live at 20 years old a the European championships in 2008 and he was far more impressive than either of those guys. If that’s your honest opinion, you really need to go and watch more of Loma’s amateur fights. Loma at Beijing in 2008 was absolutely sensational.
At their age... Loma was convincingly beating guys like Oscar Valdez and Jose Carlos Ramirez.
I agree about the Pedraza weight stuff, but come on bro... don’t be delusional.
Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him.
So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing.
Pedraza himself says he was having trouble at that weight. He struggled to make weight against Tank.
Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget?
You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight?
Tank has far more quality wins? A weight drained Pedraza is his best win. When I watch each of them fight, I see a way more complete boxer in Haney. Mark my words, Tank will never fight Haney, Loma, Commey or any other live dog so long as they are at their best.
Pedraza fought at that weight since before Gervonta was a pro. Idk how you can consider him to be weight drained lol.
Lomachenko was dropping rounds to 40 year old chinese guys in 3 rounders when he was these guys' age.
Pedraza has already moved up two weight classes, so I don't think he is making an excuse about having trouble making 130. He immediately moved to 135 after his loss to Tank.
I think Haney would give Loma a tough fight. Tank not so much. Because I don't think Tank would be competitive doesn't mean I'm being biased, I just don't think his style would be effective. Haney has better fundamentals.
Pedraza just got routed by a middling 140er in Zepeda. If anything, he'll go back to 135. That has no bearing on the fact he'd fought at 130 most the vast majority of his career before he fought Tank who walked over him like he wasn't world level. No matter how you want to downplay the match, it's probably the best win a 22 year old scored this decade.
Haney has never even fought a live body. His amateur career wasn't very extensive either. He dropped 2/4 fights to Ryan Garcia while he was like a sop****re in high school and Garcia hasn't looked great himself. Brought along correctly, he certainly has the potential to be something great.
As for throwing him in with Loma right now? Not a chance lol. Not a chance in hell. The odds would reflect that. And you yourself, despite what you say to me, know that.
PBC is definitely putting on the best cards this year. It's not really close. Top Rank is probably doing the worst with Crawford and Fury being mishandled hard.
Honorable mention to Camille Estephan and Eye of the Tiger Management. PunchingGrace is showcasing a bunch of interesting prospects from eastern europe. They're being brought along perfectly. Sadriddin and Sabirov in particular.
I think both should be amateurs until they're 26.
Gervonta and Haney fans want their fighters protected and brought along correctly. Loma fans want him to smash some green propsects who will probably go on to do great things.
I'd rather see Lomachenko go to 140. I don't think anybody at 135 beats him. Nor 130. At least the size problem might make for competition at 140. More competition than 2 green prospects.
No reason to throw Tank and Haney to the flames.
K-1 still pressing on with a GP in December?
Also, thanks for the list.
I don't know tbh. I do know Tenshin called Takeru out and Takeru responded earlier today. It would seem that fight is becoming more inevitable.
I prefer to approach that question towards the end of a fighter's career. Beating an undefeated fighter with a big reputation like Golovkin certainly wouldn't hurt his prospects. It'd help a great deal more than beating Chavez Jr did. It'd also be more impressive than beating a welterweight or an undersized Cotto. It'd be his best win since Lara which was pretty controversial to begin with. A definitive stoppage of GGG makes him the face of boxing imo.
I'm not a Kovalev apologist, had Ward winning the first and think the second was over long before the nut shot, but anybody acting like he's not a top 10er is bat**** nuts. He didn't have holes in his game. He fought Andre Ward. He puts holes in people's games. Nobody else beats the Kovalev that was showed up to those fights.
Think of fighters who resemble McGregor who is basically just setting up his left straight trying to shut off the lights. Adonis Stevenson? Shinsuke Yamanaka? No clue how you prescribe a gameplan to prepare for an unbeaten fighter anyway.