kovalev looked like **** couldn't hit anything and was getting hit by chilemba jab. also tired as phuck.
ya'll just wrote it off. he overrrated. just a puncher nothing more.
I don't think it was overlooked, Kovalev was just given the benefit of the doubt. People thought he wasn't at his best that night, an off night. It happens.
this right here.
can't be right all the time!
My point was that considering he arguably beat someone as good as Ward (first time around) the Chilemba fight was merely written off as an off night.
That could be, or maybe chilemba is just more tricky than we realized.
ward was the favorite to win both fights. was certainly the favorite to win the first one, i bet money in vegas for him to win on points.
chilemba hadn't been stopped before the kovalev fight and had aquitted himself pretty well at the top 10 level. i didn't expect kovlev to look great against a guy that has a style built around trying to make you look bad. nobody did, really. all that figh twas designed to do was to get kovalev paid, build some fanfare in russia, and tune up for a much trickier fighter. it wouldn't do a ton ton to help him prepare if you just put him in there with a come forward fighter who would get stopped early.
he also hardly trained from all accounts, and doesn't appear to be a hard worker. i'm always shocked at how quickly he looks lout of shape after his fights. probably likes his vodka.
I'm not a Kovalev apologist, had Ward winning the first and think the second was over long before the nut shot, but anybody acting like he's not a top 10er is bat**** nuts. He didn't have holes in his game. He fought Andre Ward. He puts holes in people's games. Nobody else beats the Kovalev that was showed up to those fights.
no you won money because you understand boxing politics which is smart. its the reason everyone should bet canelo over ggg. is canelo better than ggg? maybe but he doesnt even have to be. also that was not easy money since you must have been sweating after the 12 rounds. you never want to rely on the robbery win but it comes through most of the time
Oh, stop crying little girl. You just hate Ward, which would be fine if you could just admit it, and stop making these and other excuses and trying to use pathetic reasoning as to why kovalev lost, and he DID lose, and he LOST twice and the second time got TKO'd. What political power does Ward have? Jay-z, who is of course the pit of roc-nation (and isn't by any means my favorite person) may be infinitely wealthy, but you are using that as your reasons that Ward won? Yet, you disregard the many articles, analysts, etc out there who called it a 1 point fight and many agree it was simply a close fight where the guy you like didn't get the nod. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but kovalev is just not as good as Ward. Not in any area, and not only that, Ward has been better with each passing fight after his long lay-off. Stop acting like the fight was a total robbery instead of making yourself look even more ignorant with each post you make.
Because Kovalev fought at the Arena where he killed a man. So peoplw thought it was mentally bothering him
Idiotic fangirls dreamed up that legend.
That was right after the meldonium scandal, remember?
Of course I noticed it.
It's part of the reason why I was saying Kovalev didn't deserve top 5, coupled with his limited resume.
I mean seriously, Walters has looked better in all his fights and has a better resume than Kovalev did prior to his defeat to Ward, and he wasn't P4P or was outside top 10 for most people.
And because I saw it, I won easy $$$ betting Ward by unanimous decision.
no you won money because you understand boxing politics which is smart. its the reason everyone should bet canelo over ggg. is canelo better than ggg? maybe but he doesnt even have to be. also that was not easy money since you must have been sweating after the 12 rounds. you never want to rely on the robbery win but it comes through most of the time
Since I've joined boxingscene one of the things thats been common here is that people ignore when punchers having glaring weakness, lack of an inside game or they can't cut off the ring, we act like it's impossible for those holes to get exposed down the line. Matthysse was one of them, unfortunately for Kovalev there was a fighter who can operate on the inside to expose his, had it not been for Ward I do wonder how disgusting Kovalev's hype would have been.
you talking about clinching? thats illegal. thats not inside fighting...unfortunately for kovalev he ran into someone with political power in this sport and thats it. we all saw how he clearly beat ward in the first. that was ridiculous. round 10 to ward? simply impossible but in a close fight....judges suddenly went crazy. second fight comes aroudn and blows that were low in the 2nd round are suddenly overlooked late in a close fight and the ref standing right there says its a tko after 3 clear low blows. did tony weeks suddenly go crazy too?
fanboys will completely ignore all this and keep the ward hype going. its just a coincidence all the mind bogglingly terrible calls went his way? no its not but they got to hype this guy up into something he is not. i wonder how disgusting his hype would be if he could win fair and square and didnt win a ton of his fights with illegal tactics and help? imagine if he beat kessler, bika, kovalev, etc...legit?
Of course I noticed it.
It's part of the reason why I was saying Kovalev didn't deserve top 5, coupled with his limited resume.
I mean seriously, Walters has looked better in all his fights and has a better resume than Kovalev did prior to his defeat to Ward, and he wasn't P4P or was outside top 10 for most people.
And because I saw it, I won easy $$$ betting Ward by unanimous decision.
Since I've joined boxingscene one of the things thats been common here is that people ignore when punchers having glaring weakness, lack of an inside game or they can't cut off the ring, we act like it's impossible for those holes to get exposed down the line. Matthysse was one of them, unfortunately for Kovalev there was a fighter who can operate on the inside to expose his, had it not been for Ward I do wonder how disgusting Kovalev's hype would have been.
I guess because he arguably beat Ward the first time around and should have gotten the decision.
Try to keep the bias out of it, I believe OP was asking why people didn't talk more about it BEFORE he LOST to Ward.
Once someone loses on this site, they become instant bums.
Never judge a mans boxing career until it ends.
And let's not judge him following a devastating loss, poor time to judge. Clouds judgment
Because Chilemba is extremely hard to look good against? He's very crafty with a high ring IQ and very hard too hit clean.
Nobody had beat Chilemba decisively prior.
Kovalev has fought at 175 his whole career. I began noticing that he would get tired and wear down since the Chilemba fight.
It's been a little difficult for him in the last year to get down to 175.
But it is what it is. Ward was the better fighter on June 17th. I had Kovalev winning the first fight barely. Ward won a good majority of those rounds in the second half of the fight in the first fight. But I had Kovalev winning the first fight. Ward definitely fought better the second fight and was better of the two.
Kovalev is likely moving up to Cruiserweight now to finish his career at Cruiser. We'll see how he does there, it's going to be tough, that's a 25 pound jump.
I don't think it was overlooked, Kovalev was just given the benefit of the doubt. People thought he wasn't at his best that night, an off night. It happens.