Tank was too young, but Haney is not?

Well Haney wants it, Tank really wasn't calling for it so I don't even see how this is comparable honestly You're right. Tank doesn't want it and his Mayweather promotions definitely doesn't want it. They won't risk him, he's too young- bull**** bull**** bull****. Haney wants the fight. I believe Tank probably punches a bit harder and may be stronger physically- he's built like a tank. Haney is the better boxer and technician. IMO Haney is a better fighter than Tank.

Well Haney wants it, Tank really wasn't calling for it so I don't even see how this is comparable honestly

Man you are dense. I made this thread asking the Tank fans why they felt he was too young to fight Loma at 21, but those same fans think Haney is not too young at 20...of course they won't respond with a straight answer, deep down they know Tank won't beat Loma, not at 22 and not within the near future. They see something in Haney that they don't see in Tank. Haney very well may be the better fighter of the two, time will tell. All I know is Haney is doing something that Tank didn't do, and got killed for not doing. Hopefully he gets his shot at Lomachenko soon.

Loma beats both convincingly IMO. But the fights are still interesting and there’s no harm in wanting to test yourself against the best. Lomachenko very well may be able to beat both convincingly. Or he may struggle and the fight is competitive. I rather both give it a shot rather than just give Lomachenko the hypothetical win. And if one, or both of them lose, so what? No one will look at them any different as they just lost to arguably the best fighter in the world.

Bingo! Lomachenko isn't a big puncher that is going to ruin you either. I mean once he gets rolling, you have to be mentally tough enough to overcome his onslaughts but no single punch is going to really ruin you. I believe and have believed that Tank gives Lomachenko a nice fight even if he loses. Wish his team was more confident as he won't get embarrassed and it only helps him in the long run. Loma beats both convincingly IMO. But the fights are still interesting and there’s no harm in wanting to test yourself against the best.

Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him. So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing. Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget? You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight? So delusional...😂😂😂 Who’s Haney beat that’s even comparable to Valdez or Ramirez? GTFOH...

Um, why would you make a thread about Haney and include Tank? So are you saying you made this thread just to bash Tank? Why would you bring up Haney's age if HE is pushing for the fight unlike Tank? LOL at talking about double standards between Haney and Tank like you are offended Haney and his fans are calling for the fight. So tell me how much I hate Lomachenko? Man you are dense. I made this thread asking the Tank fans why they felt he was too young to fight Loma at 21, but those same fans think Haney is not too young at 20...of course they won't respond with a straight answer, deep down they know Tank won't beat Loma, not at 22 and not within the near future. They see something in Haney that they don't see in Tank.

What's my agenda genius? You wrongly assumed I didn't want Loma to fight Haney, once I stated I did want the fight, you went off on a tangent with agendas and off-topic Spence/Pac drama. Take your L like a man and move on, no need to deflect and distract with outside subject matter. Um, why would you make a thread about Haney and include Tank? So are you saying you made this thread just to bash Tank? Why would you bring up Haney's age if HE is pushing for the fight unlike Tank? LOL at talking about double standards between Haney and Tank like you are offended Haney and his fans are calling for the fight. So tell me how much I hate Lomachenko?

Pedraza just got routed by a middling 140er in Zepeda. If anything, he'll go back to 135. That has no bearing on the fact he'd fought at 130 most the vast majority of his career before he fought Tank who walked over him like he wasn't world level. No matter how you want to downplay the match, it's probably the best win a 22 year old scored this decade. Haney has never even fought a live body. His amateur career wasn't very extensive either. He dropped 2/4 fights to Ryan Garcia while he was like a sop****re in high school and Garcia hasn't looked great himself. Brought along correctly, he certainly has the potential to be something great. As for throwing him in with Loma right now? Not a chance lol. Not a chance in hell. The odds would reflect that. And you yourself, despite what you say to me, know that. Didn't I say that Pedraza was Tank's best win? I'm also saying Pedraza had trouble making that weight, so he immediately moved up. Watching both fighters, anyone can see that Haney is the more polished between him and Tank. But Tank fans give Gervonta a pass claiming he is too young at 21 to fight Loma, but those same Tank fans have been posting on the forum claiming Haney isn't too young because deep down they know that Haney would have a better chance at winning. Tank has little to no chance.

Hatred towards Lomachenko? Nonsense, I give him his full credit. I don't create threads pushing my agendas like you do. There is always something you are looking for when you create these threads. I called you on your BS last time on the Spence/Pacquiao thread and I see the same here. So how about this, YOU tell me is Haney too young to take this fight? Should he not take it if Tank was apparently too young? Should Haney wait Lomachenko before fighting him? What's my agenda genius? You wrongly assumed I didn't want Loma to fight Haney, once I stated I did want the fight, you went off on a tangent with agendas and off-topic Spence/Pac drama. Take your L like a man and move on, no need to deflect and distract with outside subject matter.

No agenda. I already expressed my reason for starting the thread, you just don't like it. Maybe it's your hatred of Loma, or your loyalty to TMT/PBC? Not sure, but this is a very straight forward thread. No agenda here, nor is there one in my other threads you're crying about. But feel free to start your own threads instead hijacking others. Hatred towards Lomachenko? Nonsense, I give him his full credit. I don't create threads pushing my agendas like you do. There is always something you are looking for when you create these threads. I called you on your BS last time on the Spence/Pacquiao thread and I see the same here. So how about this, YOU tell me is Haney too young to take this fight? Should he not take it if Tank was apparently too young? Should Haney wait Lomachenko before fighting him?

Neither are truly ready for Lomachenko, so I wish they'd both just stop it.

Because the majority of people don’t believe tank can beat loma...stylistically, Haney has a better shot.

I'm not even sure Haney could beat Keyshawn Davis.

Pedraza has already moved up two weight classes, so I don't think he is making an excuse about having trouble making 130. He immediately moved to 135 after his loss to Tank. I think Haney would give Loma a tough fight. Tank not so much. Because I don't think Tank would be competitive doesn't mean I'm being biased, I just don't think his style would be effective. Haney has better fundamentals. Pedraza just got routed by a middling 140er in Zepeda. If anything, he'll go back to 135. That has no bearing on the fact he'd fought at 130 most the vast majority of his career before he fought Tank who walked over him like he wasn't world level. No matter how you want to downplay the match, it's probably the best win a 22 year old scored this decade. Haney has never even fought a live body. His amateur career wasn't very extensive either. He dropped 2/4 fights to Ryan Garcia while he was like a sop****re in high school and Garcia hasn't looked great himself. Brought along correctly, he certainly has the potential to be something great. As for throwing him in with Loma right now? Not a chance lol. Not a chance in hell. The odds would reflect that. And you yourself, despite what you say to me, know that.

tank's hype vs loma didn't work then they jumped bandwagon to lopez...didn't work too now they got haney to hype... typical nsb hype train from the same stupid fans

Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him. So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing. Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget? You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight? Pedraza has already moved up two weight classes, so I don't think he is making an excuse about having trouble making 130. He immediately moved to 135 after his loss to Tank. I think Haney would give Loma a tough fight. Tank not so much. Because I don't think Tank would be competitive doesn't mean I'm being biased, I just don't think his style would be effective. Haney has better fundamentals.

No, I am pointing the agendas you push all the time here. If you want to see him fight Haney, then great! Leave it at that. But there is a reason you made this thread. You could have made a thread saying Haney is wanting to do something Tank refused to do, instead you bring the age angle to this. And there are others that have posted recently that Haney doesn't deserve the fight and he needs to prove himself. Why? What did Tank do to deserve the fight? Beat Pedraza? No agenda. I already expressed my reason for starting the thread, you just don't like it. Maybe it's your hatred of Loma, or your loyalty to TMT/PBC? Not sure, but this is a very straight forward thread. No agenda here, nor is there one in my other threads you're crying about. But feel free to start your own threads instead hijacking others.

Lol... I actually had the pleasure of watching Loma live at 20 years old a the European championships in 2008 and he was far more impressive than either of those guys. If that’s your honest opinion, you really need to go and watch more of Loma’s amateur fights. Loma at Beijing in 2008 was absolutely sensational. At their age... Loma was convincingly beating guys like Oscar Valdez and Jose Carlos Ramirez. I agree about the Pedraza weight stuff, but come on bro... don’t be delusional. Loma was 23 when he beat a 19 year old Jose Carlos Ramirez. Now he says he won't even go to 140. He was also 21 when he beat an 18 year old Oscar Valdez. A Valdez who has been quite a disappointment to most of the people who believed in him. So no, Haney or Tank fighting the best fighter across like 3 weight classes who is 31 before they're 25 isn't the same thing. Pedraza himself says he was having trouble at that weight. He struggled to make weight against Tank. Did he use it as an excuse for getting walked down and blown out by a 5'4 midget? You clearly don't think Haney or Gervonta would give Loma trouble. I don't either. So why do you want to see the fight?

Yeah I’m all for the fight (don’t think it happens tbh) if you’re good enough you’re old enough... A loss to Loma isn’t going to hurt him at this stage and if he pulls off the upset, boxing will have a new superstar. Bingo! Lomachenko isn't a big puncher that is going to ruin you either. I mean once he gets rolling, you have to be mentally tough enough to overcome his onslaughts but no single punch is going to really ruin you. I believe and have believed that Tank gives Lomachenko a nice fight even if he loses. Wish his team was more confident as he won't get embarrassed and it only helps him in the long run.