What would work against Floyd? Even if you don't think Conor has it, what would beat Floyd? What styles, what attributes, what techniques, work against Floyd?
... AND...
It's NOT going to happen, blah, blah... yeah, we know. But if you had a "gun to your head" explain how Conor beats Floyd. Serious question, playing devil's advocate, if you're forced to analyse Conor's game, etc... How *could* it happen?
- What attributes does Conor have, better than Floyd?
- What has worked in the past vs Floyd that Conor could exploit?
- What has Floyd not seen before that Conor could surprise with?
... etc...
Attack that shell with straight pipes (head, head, body)
Attack the high guard with long uppercuts
Never throw one shot, follow everything up
From orthodox, come over the top of that shoulder, if not the chin, target the top of the ear
...tbc....
be on the outside
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disrupt the pull counter
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I fear...
That Conor didn't strategize, that he really believes he can rely on just being the bigger, stronger man
That Conor gets cut
That Conor's head movement will be non-existent, will rely only on pulling straight back
Floyd's two most competitive fights were Maidana 1 and JLC 1. In both of those fights Floyd was bullied and fouled (both guys got away with some stuff...low blows, rabbit punches, etc.), but Floyd does NOT do well under pressure when the ref "allows" dirty tactics.
Floyd is very much a "by the books" fighter who likes to be the only one "bending the rules". Maidana definitely crossed the line more than Floyd, but I'll be damned if he didn't make Floyd VERY uncomfortable.
He still lost, and where are you getting that he doesn't do well under pressure? You won't find a more relaxed fighter in boxing today.
What would work against Floyd? Even if you don't think Conor has it, what would beat Floyd? What styles, what attributes, what techniques, work against Floyd?
... AND...
It's NOT going to happen, blah, blah... yeah, we know. But if you had a "gun to your head" explain how Conor beats Floyd. Serious question, playing devil's advocate, if you're forced to analyse Conor's game, etc... How *could* it happen?
- What attributes does Conor have, better than Floyd?
- What has worked in the past vs Floyd that Conor could exploit?
- What has Floyd not seen before that Conor could surprise with?
... etc...
Being very fast and very active.
I think a long rangey fighter like a Lara coupled with his speed and world class counter punching game that would see Floyd get outboxed.
There is a reason Floyd didn't want that fight, Lara arguably hasn't officially been beaten legitimately I should say.
Bell rings. Conor comes towards Floyd and pretends to come at him from the left (to give the illusion of getting past Floyd's shoulder roll), but it's a trap to get Floyd to quickly move out of harm's way by stepping over to the right... At which point Conor quickly sidesteps back over to his right and delivers a hard, perfectly-timed straight forward jab straight to Mayweather's dome (like the one he hit Paulie with in the video) that he doesn't see coming. He then immediately tries a left hook with the same hand and when Floyd barely ducks, he catches him with a hard right uppercut underneath. Floyd is stunned, gets backed into the ropes, and McGregor unleashes a furry of punches with extreme pinpoint accuracy that gets through Floyd's defense and sends him crumbling to the ground.
Floyd gets up, clearly wobbled, and Conor manages to get him up against the ropes again, and he swarms him and sends him spiraling to the canvas with pinpoint accuracy punches all over again... Only this time, Floyd doesn't get up. He either fails to beat the 10 count or the referee stops the fight.
Dream about that? Lol
Gun to my head? The only way he wins is if Floyd suffers a freak injury in the ring, such as twisting his ankle, breaking his right hand in the first round, dislocating a shoulder..That would be Conor's only shot to win. If Floyd is healthy, there is literally no way he wins.
TMT_HEAT, thought I'd re-post this here....
When I listed the things necessary to beat Floyd, Conor came up really short on the list.
-Footwork
-Hand Speed
-Length
-Stiff Jab
Those are the 4 main components IMO to giving Mayweather trouble whether orthodox or southpaw.
Conor has no-existent footwork because of where he comes from, his hand speed isn't good but he utilizes timing well(Mayweather does too), his got length on him but not enough, I think at least 4 inches in reach would be necessary to utilize the last part and that's having a stiff jab to control distance and keep that straight right from Money getting thrown.
Conor is going to have to put together a combination of punches to drop Mayweather unless he can simply walk through his punches and no one has ever done that.
Between that and Floyd's footwork, hand speed and jab/lead right I'm wondering how Conor will get into closing distance. He also has never displayed a consistent hook or an uppercut in his UFC fights. The straight left has been the weapon on choice in mostly all of his victories.
Bell rings. Conor comes towards Floyd and pretends to come at him from the left (to give the illusion of getting past Floyd's shoulder roll), but it's a trap to get Floyd to quickly move out of harm's way by stepping over to the right... At which point Conor quickly sidesteps back over to his right and delivers a hard, perfectly-timed straight forward jab straight to Mayweather's dome (like the one he hit Paulie with in the video) that he doesn't see coming. He then immediately tries a left hook with the same hand and when Floyd barely ducks, he catches him with a hard right uppercut underneath. Floyd is stunned, gets backed into the ropes, and McGregor unleashes a furry of punches with extreme pinpoint accuracy that gets through Floyd's defense and sends him crumbling to the ground.
Floyd gets up, clearly wobbled, and Conor manages to get him up against the ropes again, and he swarms him and sends him spiraling to the canvas with pinpoint accuracy punches all over again... Only this time, Floyd doesn't get up. He either fails to beat the 10 count or the referee stops the fight.
Gun to my head?
Conor needs to make Floyd Mayweather work and hustle and tire, and prevent Mayweather from getting set or comfortable. This probably means Conor needs to go after Floyd and pressure him like Castillo, Maidana, Cotto and Guerrero all tried to do.
Conor will also need to push through the pain suffered by the brutal counters he'll be eating, something that has discouraged many many opponents from even trying to throw against him in later rounds.
He needs to make his athletic prime into an advantage and the only way he will accomplish that is by making Floyd work just as hard as he is working, at least.
Having said all that I think Mayweather will be the guy coming forward (like he did vs Canelo in round 1), making Conor work disproportionately hard to keep himself safe from punishment, and eventually Mayweather's counters will condition McGregor into not throwing at all, up until the point that McGregor gasses out.
Connor's best bet is to try some martial arts based punching and footwork.
Trying to be a boxer anit gon work...
Connor has to be a martial artist not a boxer.
His team believes this too. It's why they digging for techniques in ancient boxing that are uncommon in this era.
We will see a Bolo uppercut thrown.
We might see a Casting shot thrown.
Connor's best bet is to try some martial arts based punching and footwork.
Trying to be a boxer anit gon work...
Connor has to be a martial artist not a boxer.
His team believes this too. It's why they digging for techniques in ancient boxing that are uncommon in this era.
We will see a Bolo uppercut thrown.
We might see a Casting shot thrown.