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You have completely lost the plot. You keep going off of hypotheticals but name me a single fight in the US, heavyweight ofc, since the Lewis/Tyson/Holy era that has made fighters even a fraction of the money Wlad/Haye did, let alone Wlad/AJ. One fight. Plus you keep talking like Wilder is a star in the US. He isn't so why should he sell in Vegas or anywhere else? The guy has never even come close to selling a ppv, yet he is supposed to demand location, money and purse against AJ? On top of all that, you have gone entirely off topic. The premise is simple, why is it so difficult for some American fighters to make consistently top level fights against top level opponents when compared to others. Why has Widler never unified in 4 years while AJ did in his first? Why won't Thurman fight Spence yet the Brook/Spence fight was easily made? How come all the top cruisers can fight each other on a regular basis but the top light middles cant or rather, wont? Answer those questions and stop banging on about why you think Vegas is still the biggest place for HW boxing, when there has been no proof of that in 15+ years. These Americans man....... Crack me up.This guy's like the 100th person to go crazy over Spence beating Brook,they go mad and are so patrotic,it's funny when they try to hide it but they are so into patroism but continually act like they dont,it hurts the Ego's.

Which is why i stated in the last paragraph, "I am not saying Joshua has to stay in Vegas." I don't know that AJ/Wilder has to be on PPV in the US. It can be on PPV in the UK and AJ should get the majority of the cut, at least 80%. Ward and Kov are not HWT's for ****s sake. I agree on Fury.. Whyte is regional fighter so yeah that would be in the UK. In a year or so, Big Baby could be a marketable fight, if he keeps winning, that AJ might want to do in the US. AJ/Wilder has to be PPV in America you idiot.That is the only way AJ can come over their given he makes 10-15M in the UK.What other way can Showtime put up the money ?? Stephen Espinoza had publicly said the only way to bring Joshua over is through a PPV in the US.But then the discussion goes back to will Wilder/AJ do good numbers in Vegas ??? I dont think it will,just keep that fight in the UK,Wembley.Maybe Sky should raise the PPV Price in the UK for that one off fight and Hearn should increase the Wembley ticket Prices by 30-50%.Waste and huge risk to let this fight happen in the US on PPV.Deontay is probably known more in the UK than in the US which sums up the attention of this fight in the States.Now Mayweather is gone i dont think their is a PPV Fighter who is American.Canelo and GGG are of course the two foreign stars.However GGG is getting old only Canelo Left.PPV is a dying art and Boxing needs to get off premium channels for it to get casual intrest again.Their's only a certain few like Mayweather and Mcgregor who can break that barrier

Vegas is still the boxing capital of the world. You make the most money in a big Vegas event fight. that is why people suggest Joshua should come to the US. If he can come here and dominate he will be a true international star rather than just a European star. If Joshua chooses to stay in England then he will never get complete respect. Sort of like if a soccer player stays his whole career in MLS and never plays where the best players play in Europe and South America. If you don't like the US, cool. Just don't call us when you need help. Why the hell do Americans love Vegas.You're just boasting and showing off when you know deep down,Vegas is the centre of Corruption and fraud in Boxing.It's not like anyone in a Vegas Areana actually knows a thing about Boxing,they are just betting people and bankers.The price of a ticket is godsmackinf never mind the price of a PPV over their,and Yes i dont like the US,like the other 99% people around the world(your either American or not normal if you love the US)but that has nothing to do with my judgement on the US in Boxing Terms.It is a sink full of snakes like De La Hoya,Don King etc.

Who gives a **** where ?? US or UK.I'd say UK more because it suits everyone more.US fans can watch it in the Afternoon,Wilder is happy to travel,atmosphere would be immense.Full of 90,000 Brit hating Americans.If it was in the US,Uk fans would have to watch it in the morning which aint fair

CBS can easily put up the money and air the fight on their network in prime time. If it is on PPV in the US, I'm sure it will sell enough for AJ to get that. AJ/wlad made $9.9 mil US in gate receipts from a record 90,000 crowd. The live gate will be more in Vegas. The UK PPV was $16.95. You can make it $20 for the fight. There was no US PPV. If it does a measly 300k on PPV @$50 there is more revenue right there. Again, I completely understand why AJ would want to fight in Wembley. However, if he wants to make the most money and be a true international star, then he will fight in Vegas. Either way I'm fine. Frankly, it would be better for Wilder to KHTFO in front of dregs like you. A Hagler/Minter or Spence/Brook destruction would be epic. What the hell is CBS ??? It sounds like a cheap channel.It would be the equivalent of AJ/Wilder on BBC in the UK.Why the hell would AJ/Hearn agree to go onto a Random Free to Air American channel you thicko.They will demand PPV from Showtime to bring AJ over as that is the only way Commercially it is viable.You dont make sense about AJ becoming a international star.Except for Wilder who is their to fight in the US you FOOL.Their are no American Heavyweights bar Wilder.All of them are UK Aligned and make much more sense Here.No it wont be a repeat of Spence/Brook because AJ is not coming off from a Weightcut or Surgery.Americans never mention this,your boys take the fights when either the oppo is too old/Injured/or weight cut.Joshua Wilder will be like Joshua/Martin,Bird legs going to leave London with him taking a dump in the middle of the ring

Dude, think for a second. That is a Wlad issue, it in no way means Vegas isn't the fight capital of the world. He fought Mccline, Shufford and Brewster (ko loss) then the Williamson debacle and he never went back to Vegas. Obviously US fans didn't hold him in as high regard as eastern european fans after getting KTFO by a lower level fighter so I can understand why he stayed away. AJ, like Lewis, is a special talent that US fans will love. Put him in with Wilder, where people think there will be an explosive KO, and that will draw fans and be a huge event. Yes, the HWT division was weak for a LOOOONGGGGG time. Now the division has real interest. Take advantage of this now. I am not saying Joshua has to stay in Vegas. Obviously, if he wins and fights Fury you wouldn't put that fight in Vegas given its a battle between to English fighters. I think you are vastly wrong on the fact that AJ can become a star in America.Except for Wilder the rest of the opponents are suited for the UK Audience.AJ and Wilder are barely stars in America,if Wilder the American Fighter dosent do more than 1 Million views on Showtime how the hell will this get strong PPV Numbers in the US.Ward-Kovalev done 300K(poor)and they are both known well and it was on HBO.Boxing is a dying sport in the US.Lewis comparison is wrong,Tyson was the Star of the division in those times for Americans and as soon as he retired,the intrest went from America in the HW Divison.Their is no point going to the US just for one fight,Miller and Wilder who else ?? UK however,Fury,Dubois,Whyte 2,Povetkin etc.Lewis never got the credit in the US anyway,he was slaughtered by the US Media and fans for his style and the fact he wasnt American.Joshua alluded to this and said it dosent add anything to his legacy fighting their,he knocks out Wilder people will quickly forget about it,and dismiss Wilder as a bum and said AJ got lucky he's in a poor divison compared to the 90's.We all know how the US Fans and Media works like>>>>>

Fast Car gonna take over America and mug you off and brainwash you with the bull that comes out of his month.

The better question is why do those fighters come to the US instead of staying in their own countries? You know the answer to this, so you also know the answer why these guys have to wait to get shots at top US fighters. LOL u bunch of hypocrites.You complain when the likes of Joshua dont want to come to your ****t country,saying he needs the US.Then you go and say,'why do these fighters come to the US'.Maybe it's because the Seniors in America have realised they can mug off silly Americans with PPV Prices and Ticket Prices and they know these silly little Yanks will pay for it.That is why every fighter wants to fight in the US as Golden Boy and Byrd showed,Corruption and everything that is wrong with Boxing from a fans point of view can be found in the US.

Yes, it's tragic really. I cry for them. via GIPHY If they could all turn out like the beloved, well-supported Hatton who said he thinks of killing himself... http://mcfcsupportersclub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Ricky-Hatton-Man-City-Interview-Part-3-620x350.jpg Hatton only had the Support of Manchester Football hooligans.Sky made it into Hatton being a National Hero or something when in reality they were a bunch of chavs from Manchester.He was Idiolised because he was a full blooded white englishman.Americans you should realise UK is more subtle in Rascism.That was a clear hint,Hatton was a average bar room brawler.

AJ finally bows to the god wilder. pray to your master. he will baptize you. Big Femi is coming and Wilder will regret ****ing with him.I cant wait for Windmill Wilder to be swept of his feet by a Uppercut from Femz.

All? Have you been to fights at StubHub, The Forum or MSG? StubHub is a pure fight fans venue and the Forum crowd is excellent too. MSG Theater was a bit of a Boxing geek fest for Loma-Rigo. Sure, you don't get singing songs like in Britain but you get a great fight atmosphere if the venue suits the event. Example SuperFly 2 was great and one of the better caliber of fight fans and atmospheres (especially considering it's outdoors and small) had it been in Vegas it would have been flat. The problem over here is often times it's like there's no thought process in the venues to some of the fights. Also, surely Manchester is a more entertaining atmosphere and venue than London? Less suits, more working class, more passionate fans and better pricing? Stubhub means something else in Britain and it's not a nice word to say to Boxing Fans courtesy of Matchroom Boxing and that Weasel Eddie Hearn.Manchester is full of chavs and drunks,London less to a Extent and you can get more actual Boxing Fans to the event who can name a Boxer other than Anthony Joshua

The Parkers' are lucky . Back in the old days you beat up someone on a personal level you then went after the family . Imagine Joshua brutalizing Parker and then immediately finding his way to the Parker residence and smashing through a glass Window as they all run for cover! To be fair to AJ he tries his best.Ask Amir Khan and Faryal

Not like I expect this to happen (the latter part at least) But this forum is going to explode if Wilder KO's Ortiz quick, and Parker dominates AJ lol The likely scenario is Wilder will knock out the drugged old washed up Ortiz with in 4/5 rounds.But i think AJ and Parker will go the distance.Again AJ has the tougher fight and is collecting the belts he deserves cred.

A Mother worries about her son in a violent sport... Breaking fucking news... Femi's Muscles are very intimidating though.She says she has a picture of Joshua at the back of her head.That is not normal.Told you,Femi is one scary bastard,he will unleash all his anger on Deontay"The Pride of Alabama" Wilder

was a stupid joke. Parker vs H. Fury was streamable on youtube for a super cheap amount instead of being on PPV. Your Location says Canada ?? What the hell are you doing on this forum at 8am in the Morning.Get some sleep bro

They are all rubbish and boring full of bankers in suits and boring lame Americans.London is always No1 for Entertainment.Las Vegas No1 for prestige and money.

No way in hell does Joshua fight Wilder before Fury. DUMB move. Get KO'ed before collecting on the Fury payday? Not gonna happen. 2020 if we're lucky... Joshua Fury aint happening aswell.Fury is signing with Fish Eyes and BT.You think Sky would be willing to share Joshua v Fury with BT,no chance.Fury needs to sign with Matchroom.

Besides the Premier League I hate any and everything to ever come out of England. Why do you Hate us ??? We are some small,tiny,Cold,island.Look how happy were getting over AJ when in reality,deep down we all know he's a Poor Mans Frank Bruno.It's UK that's how we do it.

Yeah. Fury vs AJ is going to be a better pay day than some stupid $6 youtube stream lol I dont understand you.

was a stupid joke. Parker vs H. Fury was streamable on youtube for a super cheap amount instead of being on PPV. Yeah courtesy of Fat Mick Hennesey.A useless,deranged Man who said Fury showed 'signs of Ali'.Fat Mick was just angry he didnt get a Bargain Bucket in his hands as he was watching.What Hunger can do to a man ???

I’ve been saying that the fight was going to take place in Vegas for the past month. Definitely.Looks like they are willing to take the risk.If AJ wins in America and beats Wilder in style he becomes a PPV Fighter in the US.

USA boxing rivals are the USA fandom. Many of which refuse to support their own fighters and support foreigners instead. Why you hate us ?? We love you lot,Compared to crazy Russians,Germans and Argentinans.

Ortiz is a old hasbeen.He is garbage i dont get why people make a big deal out of it.Parker is a unbeaten Heavyweight who has gone under the radar,granite chin.Joshua again has the harder fight.

I want AJ to fight in America becuase that is where the real money and where the real credit will come from.But America is just not into boxing anymore unless it's freak events like Mayweather/Mcgregor.The fight we all want to see is Joshua v Wilder but that will only happen if it is PPV in America.The Question i have for Americans is that Joshua-Wilder wont happen until it is PPV Worthy in the States,Hearn has stated this,Showtime invested in Joshua for this very reason to make the fight against Wilder PPV Worthy.How does Joshua v Wilder become a PPV in Las Vegas ??? Because as soon as that happens where it can be deemed as a PPV the fight will immediately get made.

LOL!...keep clinging to bullsh*t that doesn't matter....where's all your TOP PFP Professionals? You've had like 2 fleeting Top 5 PFPers in 25 years!...the Jamaican-Canadian, Lewis and "Above Average" Joe Calzaghe...that is terrible. Yes really...thank you for proving my point. "But, but we have Groves and Saunders!"....lol Americans like you make me laugh it's bittersweet to hear you talk like that.Everyone knows around the globe Americans have a intellectual Problem which is impossible to cure.They dont teach you that the UK is the size of Texas or equivalent to one US State.Bearing in Mind,UK probably has a quarter of Boxing gyms the US has,nevermind the difference in Coaching Quality between America and Britain.You Retards have all the advantages and should be dominating the Sport but you dont.Are you going to use the American Football bull**** excuse,Football,Rugby,Cricket,Darts are all more popular sports than Boxing in the UK and we can still match you in most divisions.For your Population and Resources the Stereotype is right,u pricks are a bunch of overweight,spoiled,entitled nation.

I am an American boxing fans who never chants USA and appreciates good boxers no matter where they come from. England was the birthplace of boxing and the UK has many good fighters as Saunders just showed us.I know the size and population of the UK. Texas is much bigger than any other state and the USA has lots of good fighters too like Crawford, Spence and Thurman. I never use football as an excuse because not even one USA heavyweight champ of the past would have been good enough at football to make a living at it. Football isn't robbing us of good boxers because boxing and football are two completely different sports with different requirements. Many of us American boxing fans appreciate a good UK boxer just as much as we would appreciate an American boxer of equal quality. Saunders and Eubank are looking great to me now and AJ and Fury are two of the best heavyweights. Trust me,African Americans are just too good at Physical Sports.I dont know the name of all your Major Sports,NBA,NFL take probably more than 70% of the Talent away.We need America back onsite for Boxing,it is still the mecca and the holy place for Boxing.MGM,Las Vegas,HBO you cant top that ****.What is the Problem with US Boxing,is it because all of the fights are hidden behind PPV.I feel sorry for you lot,you shouldnt have to pay $100 for fights.From a Outsider looking in Mayweather has killed your Boxing,His fights has drained your market and the Pacquiao Match didnt live up to it's hype.Tbh,the whole world was angry at Mayweather for the fight.

PPV is a dying format,what happens if Canelo loses against GGG ?? That is it no more PPV Stars,Winner of Joshua/Wilder,i dont think so,because apart from Wilder their are no American Heavyweights that are good.Plus Canelo has the Mexican/American/Latino Fanbase in America.Joshua wouldn't have that,Wilder only has the African/American Base.Spence/Tank/Lomachenko just dont appeal to the casual base.The Spence/Thurman or Lomachenko/Tank fights would all just be better off on CBS/or Showtime Championship Boxing

The Funny thing is this fight will happen once Americans are behind Wilder.It's all up to the Americans if this fight will happen this year,Hearn and AJ want that US PPV and UK PPV rolled into one.This is only possible if Wilder Joshua happens in Vegas.Vegas will only put the money up once they come to the conclusion that Wilder is a big star in the US Boxing Scene.But he is not because he only manages to get 1M on Basic Showtime.So imagine if they went PPV which Showtime would have to,to bring Joshua over ?? It wont do more than 250K Buys which is a massive flop

Most of the Boxing Channels on Youtube are all American Based anyway,so you expect them to be biased or a bit more aligned to American Fighters.I think only IFL which is the British Aligned Channel are the only Boxing Channel which isn't American Based,all the rest are American Aligned.

lol this is hilarious the AJ cuck squad are like floyd fanboys, everyone knows lennox would spark out AJ inside 3 rounds ' but but but he makin more money doe!' :lol1: Dont matter though both are Brits.I bet you're American.Look at Joshua and Lewis's records,it's full of Americans taking L's against them.