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Virtually any Canelo fight after GGG. Which could help create some more PPV draws in Charlo or Jacobs or Derevyanchenko maybe even. Although I'm less confident in foreign boxers becoming PPV draws. The key to this next PPV era is Canelo & his opposition. And I think the worldwide PPV market (& the overall revenue to regardless of PPV) will be considered more too in the near future so US numbers will have less meaning soon. Joshua's US debut might if its the right opponent, but the Wilder fight will & likely any fight after that will. The 2nd biggest piece of this next PPV era is how long can Joshua stay on top &/or how entertaining can he become along with how much he can impact the more important world wide PPV (& other) revenue. I think the upcoming Bud vs Horn w/Manny card (they need a good fight for Manny doe & a solid push on ESPN with shoulder programming) has potential to break 500k. Bud's chance to break out will likely live or die on how good this PPV does (& he seems to not give a f#ck about being a PPV which isn't helping). I see Bud as having Cotto-like potential to Floyd & Manny back in the day in this upcoming PPV era if he does take off. But I think he has a bigger chance to go south or never get anywhere doe admittedly. But again you are barking up the wrong tree. Its still not about the fights. Its about the fighters. In the last decade 27 fights did 500k+ numbers & 20 of those fights involved Floyd or Manny & 25 of those fights involved someone who fought Floyd or Manny. So PPV guys begat PPV guys for the most part or you got a rougher road so its not the fight its the fighter & that takes time. And US PPV numbers aren't gonna be in play as much as they've been in the past anyway so talking about US sh^t in a worldwide sport will lose value & importance as we move forward I feel like. In particular when talking about a guy like Joshua who can sell PPV's in the US & the UK. Joshua is likely to f#ck up those low PPV prices they got in the UK. Brother, you talk a lot and dont seem to listen. I am talking in 2018!!!... Canelo will be done in may and could very well be until 2019 he would fight again

Why would you take the best bet to be the 3rd mainstream star in PPV history? Its not like there are a ton of guys in 40 years of consistent PPV events that the most likely 3rd guy entering the discussion should be exited from the debate. Its a rarer thing then people think to reach the point Joshua & Canelo have reached already let alone how big they could get. Ask most mfers to guess how many 1.5+ buy PPV's they've been & I bet most go over 9 cuz mfers don't have a clue how little its happened. I have talked to you and it seems you always are trying to argue for the sake of it.Ok, lets keep canelos, he will fight in may, what other PPV would sell, forget over 1mill buys, lets say 500 k buys.

Joshua looks like ppv In uk now for his career, so unless he starts losing and popularity impacts as a result that will stay. Whether that will transfer across the pond only time will tell

There never are...til there are. And like I said Joshua & Canelo are the best bets. And Canelo is a solid bet to be the guy who gets the 10th fight past 1.5M buys. And Canelo is only 27, turns 28 this year. Joshua is 28, turns 29 this year. Floyd was 30 when he got his first 1.5M+ fight. Tyson was 29. So Canelo & Joshua are on pace or ahead of pace vs the two biggest names in PPV boxing. But I did mention taking canelo out of the question. He will fight in may and not until next year maybe, so who is left for 2018?

PPV is a dying format,what happens if Canelo loses against GGG ?? That is it no more PPV Stars,Winner of Joshua/Wilder,i dont think so,because apart from Wilder their are no American Heavyweights that are good.Plus Canelo has the Mexican/American/Latino Fanbase in America.Joshua wouldn't have that,Wilder only has the African/American Base.Spence/Tank/Lomachenko just dont appeal to the casual base.The Spence/Thurman or Lomachenko/Tank fights would all just be better off on CBS/or Showtime Championship Boxing

So in short, you dont see any PPV stars either? I don’t think they’re are any. Canelo is clearly the biggest draw in boxing if he beats GGG his value could dramatically increase. The winner of AJ-Wilder would obviously have huge potential. But AJ needs to open the US market which doesn’t draw at all in atm.

Well first off those types of casual types of fights happen seldom & they usually aren't THAT foreseeable that far out. And as a PPV dork I can break that down real quick. Here's all the PPV's that boxing has done that have had 1.5M+ buys in order: Tyson vs McNeeley (1995) 1.5M Tyson vs Holyfield I (1996) 1.5M Tyson vs Holyfield II (1997) 1.9M Tyson vs Lewis (2002) 1.9M Oscar vs Floyd (2007) 2M+ Floyd vs Miguel (2012) 1.5M Floyd vs Canelo (2013) 2M+ Floyd vs Manny (2015) 4M+ Floyd vs Conor (2017) 4M+ So looking at this you could say only 2 cats are responsible for mainstream PPV interest in impressive numbers. Floyd & Tyson. Cuz guys who talk about PPV don't understand how amazing 1.5M buys is & how amazing it was Canelo vs GGG did 1.3ish or w/e it hit. Canelo is just on the cusp of hitting that mainstream appeal 1.5M number only 9 PPV's in PPV's 40 year history (really 55 year history cuz Ali vs Frazier III was the first PPV from my understanding but it was to a extremely limited audience & PPV didn't really become a thing til the 1990's when TVKO, later HBO PPV, was the main player). So good luck predicting who can be the next Floyd or Tyson. But if I had to guess I'd go with Joshua & Canelo being the best chances that our around right now. It won't be Loma or Bud or Tank or Eubank Jr or any of a dozen or two notable talented younger cats. I feel safe in saying that cuz you need a lil something extra. I don't see extra in any of those listed or the guys I didn't list who are among the top 2 or 3 guys in their division right now. Although at one point I didn't see that extra in Floyd either, but he created the Money persona & his whole career become a blueprint some cats now try to copy unsuccessfully w/o seeming to know the talent & dedication to the game gots to come first & the persona second. So in short, you dont see any PPV stars either?