Bigger Cash Generator: AJ or Lennox?

So your telling me he couldn't even fill out a 10,000 arena ? Actually 12,500 with an attendance of 7,000 :alcoholic And no im not wrong ,thats over 80,000 LESS than what Joshua is capable of . Lewis wasn't big enough to hold a title defense there had Wembley STADIUM been around bc his numbers dont support that notion ,only in fantasy land ,yet you guys arguing some nonsensical b.s when any logical person can see who the bigger draw would be . Lewis also fought at London arena that fit 15,000 yet only 10,000 showed . Lewis fought popular Morrison at Civic center that fit 12,000 yet only 8,000 showed . Lewis fought Briggs 3rd title defense in front of 9,000 fans for 4 Mill. ...inflation , doe . Lewis couldn't sell out MSG when he fought Mercer yet did so against Holyfield ,even breaking capacity of what its intended to hold . Why do you think that is ? Lewis fought Klitchko in front of 16,000 .....well short of the 21,000 it holds and was reported that they gave away 5,000 tickets . I guess its just a coincidence that MIKE TYSON just happens to be attached to Lewis biggest pay day , right and this is everyones main argument of evidence that Lewis is the bigger $$$ draw than Joshua ? :?!: Lewis more $$$$ draw doe ,he wasnt even the biggest draw in his OWN era ! :alcoholic You said that the fight was at Wembley Stadium and the gate was 7000. You were wrong. So every fight that happens around the world ie, Staples Centre and Las Vegas are all poor draws because they don't hold 80000? So Floyd, RJJ, Tyson and Manny were all poor draws??

People need to understand the question of this thread it’s not who is the bigger draw in terms of who sold more cheap tickets in stadiums. It’s about WHO GENERATED MORE CASH. And it is Lewis, that’s a cold hard FACT. Could AJ maybe surpass him one day maybe, maybe not but Lewis has drawn more money than AJ has as of right now, that’s a FACT regardless of any way you fan girls want to spin it. 80k at Wembley doe.��������

Posters are just being blatantly stupid on here (except for RJJ who is stupid by genetics ) , Lewis without Holyfield or Tyson wasnt a big draw . You’re calling me stupid, from the guy who can’t even spell Klitschko😭😭😭😭😭 Hold that L🤣🤣🤣🤣

AJ is a bigger draw in England, Lennox is by far the better boxer. AJ is a hype machine that's been marketed well in a mediocre HW division.

In the UK Joshua is a far bigger draw than Lewis ever was, Lewis was always 2nd in British fans hearts after Bruno. Bruno was more down to earth, seen as a true Brit, while Lewis boxed for Canada and was a bit aloof. But when you include US TV money he was a good earner for Lewis/Bruno, Lewis earned $8mill which in today's money accounting for inflation would be about £15.76 mill or $21.7 mill. Lewis also earned $9.15 for his fight with Tucker which is $18 mill in todays money. So when Lewis had access to US cable TV money then he was earning large sums like Joshua. But after the loss to McCall his purses nose dived, he made $2 mill for the McCall rematch,which is about $3mill in today's money. But he earned $15 mill vs Holyfied which is equivalent to $24.5 mill in today's money. Lewis got $7.5 mill for the Grant fight or $12.15 mill into today's money. Suffice to say I think currently Joshua is a bigger draw in regards to average fight, the PPV market in the UK now is far bigger than in Lewis' time and there has never been a draw in the UK like Joshua, so Joshua can earn more money per fight than Lewis could for an average fight. But Lewis had bigger name opponents to make big purses from. He was guaranteed $26.6 mill in today's money for the Tyson fight. Was offered $30 mill for a Vitali rematch which would be like $43 mill in today's money. Joshua doesn't have any big, big draws in the current division that could earn him much more than he currently does. That is of course unless he breaks the US market, if he becomes a star in the US then he could be making at least doubt what he is now.

Completely and utterly wrong. The first Lewis-McCall fight was held at the Wembley Arena which holds less than 10,000. Juggernonce takes another L😂😂😂😂 What a clown 🤡 🤡

Your claim is childish, it's based only on your admiration of Lewis. Mine is based on facts. Holyfield's and Tyson's combined purse in their rematch was $65m, and overall revenue was on the same level as in Lewis - Tyson fight. But mind here that in Holyfield - Tyson fight only one channell was involved (Showtime). Completely WRONG I actually dislike Lewis, and was never a fan of his, I always rooted against him. Your claim is unsustainable and based on invalid figures NOT FACTS. You’re claims about TV network percentage’s are based on what exactly? You’re own unqualified opinion.😂😂 We’re done here.

You’re merely conjecturing here, a lot of those figures aren’t valid. You don’t know nor can predict the network splits, gate splits etc. There’s also no way 66% would solely go to just the TV networks either. I’m absolutely convinced Lewis earned more than 50m that fight from US PPV, UK PPV, Gate and Purse. Factor in sponsorship and other stuff as well. There’s no way he made less than 50m Your claim is childish, it's based only on your admiration of Lewis. Mine is based on facts. Holyfield's and Tyson's combined purse in their rematch was $65m, and overall revenue was on the same level as in Lewis - Tyson fight. But mind here that in Holyfield - Tyson fight only one channell was involved (Showtime).

Is this even a question? I respect the hell out of Lewis and liked him even when he was perceived as the boring moderator of the after-Tyson era. But Lewis was not a draw anywhere near Joshua. Joshua puts up attendance and ratings just in England that Lewis couldn't have done worldwide. I don't like Joshua, but he's the biggest draw we've seen since the Tyson-Holyfield era ended.

Lewis made money bc of Tyson you dummy . Lewis was fighting Billups ( yea whos that ? ) and BIGGS at the same stage Joshua was fighting KLITCHKO . Take into account HOW Joshua is winning and in a social media era where he cant fight in places with much less than 70,000 ppl and would fill 150,000 EASILY no matter who he fights tells you who is the bigger $$$$$$ draw and his career hasnt even started yet , you fool ! Joshua has aready unified and is more easily marketable ,in what took Lewis NINE years to do ! Unlike you i was watching boxing before even Lewis was a name and he wasnt well recieved soon after his Ruddock fight . Thats WHY Tyson fought Holyfield instead bc Holyfield was the bigger draw and put Lewis on hold. On top of all this Lewis fought McCall at the original Wembley Stadium in front of 7,000 ppl........thats more than 80,000 short of what Joshua did in the U.K isnt it ? :alcoholic Another mind BOBBLING post on your part ! The only one as usual getting L's here is you .:lol1: Completely and utterly wrong. The first Lewis-McCall fight was held at the Wembley Arena which holds less than 10,000.

All I know is, even though I'm a fan of Joshua, when I first heard one of his paydays before Klitschko I was totally shocked he was making so much already. His star-power is for real.

He earned $30m AT MOST. They had 50/50 split with Tyson, so if they both earned more than $50m each, it would be more than $100m. Lion's share of money was generated by US PPV (HBO and Showtime combined) and it generated $106.9m. Live gate was estimated as $17.5m, UK PPV - £11.212.500 (750.000 buys * £14.95 price) or $16.378.000 in USD. Overall revenue was $106.9m (US PPV) + $17.5 (live gate) + $16.4m (UK PPV) = $140.8m + about $10m in total from TV rights for others countries. So, overall revenue was about $150m. But TV channell ALWAYS get at least 50% of revenue, this time they had TWO channels to split. So, in the best scenario for the fighters revenue was divided in such way - fighters got 40%, HBO and Showtime got 30% each. Therefore fight ers got $60m or $30m each. And it's in the absolutely best scenario, because I was probably too generous to think they got 40% (they probably got 33-35%). You’re merely conjecturing here, a lot of those figures aren’t valid. You don’t know nor can predict the network splits, gate splits etc. There’s also no way 66% would solely go to just the TV networks either. I’m absolutely convinced Lewis earned more than 50m that fight from US PPV, UK PPV, Gate and Purse. Factor in sponsorship and other stuff as well. There’s no way he made less than 50m

PPV split in both the UK and US, Gate etc. He earned way more than 50m. He earned $30m AT MOST. They had 50/50 split with Tyson, so if they both earned more than $50m each, it would be more than $100m. Lion's share of money was generated by US PPV (HBO and Showtime combined) and it generated $106.9m. Live gate was estimated as $17.5m, UK PPV - £11.212.500 (750.000 buys * £14.95 price) or $16.378.000 in USD. Overall revenue was $106.9m (US PPV) + $17.5 (live gate) + $16.4m (UK PPV) = $140.8m + about $10m in total from TV rights for others countries. So, overall revenue was about $150m. But TV channell ALWAYS get at least 50% of revenue, this time they had TWO channels to split. So, in the best scenario for the fighters revenue was divided in such way - fighters got 40%, HBO and Showtime got 30% each. Therefore fighters got $60m or $30m each. And it's in the absolutely best scenario, because I was probably too generous to think they got 40% (they probably got 33-35%).

Hard to gauge because the boxing market and its popularity has changed over the years and how we consume entertainment in general (low TV ratings, illegal streaming, online PPV) and the existence of social media also contributes to a fighter's value. I'm guessing Lewis used to command $10,000,000+ paydays in 90's money and generated higher tv ratings than now too, in the USA at least, compared to Joshua. Boxing is booming right now in the UK to the extent where the big names more often these days cross the pond to fight the Brit A-side. That didn't happen a lot before 2000 regarding credible names. The US has always been the Mecca of boxing. I think they're about level right now and Joshua hasn't really got going yet. Let alone cementing a legacy. I think this has to do with the state of the game worldwide than Joshua's mass appeal.

this comparison is only fair if you compare both after 20 fights.. and even then you gotta factor in the social media era.. context matters. not a fair comparison. Ali in his prime in this era would be PPV king. a mofo that big with welterweight footwork smh he'll be breakin all types of records.

Lewis earned $10m for the first Holyfield fight and $15m for rematch. For the Tyson fight his garanteed purse was $17.5m. His overall purse was closer to $30 mil but nowhere near to $40m let alone 50. PPV split in both the UK and US, Gate etc. He earned way more than 50m.

Boxing writer Steve Bunce explained AJ’s remarkable achievement, which was largely lost amid the noise of his victory over Carlos Takam at the Principality Stadium last month. “Anthony Joshua just set a record for a British heavyweight world champion,” Bunce explained. “When he beat Carlos Takam, he became the first guy to make four defences of his world heavyweight title because Lennox Lewis lost in his fourth attempt. “When Lennox Lewis first held the title, he lost in his fourth defence to Oliver McCall so Anthony Joshua holds the record. “He’s an exceptional fighter. " Pretty much sums the Steve Bunce article up. It also took 9 years for Lewis to be recognised as undisputed and unified champion . Two completely different marketable fighters ,and Joshua happens to be a K.O stylists that Tyson once had . Lewis isnt close here . This AJ fetish😍😍 of yours is pathetic. JuggerNONCE!🤣🤣

Yea and it would be Joshua NOT Lewis who generated NOTHING without Tyson or Holyfield note worthy to the numbers Joshua is starting to produce and generated 7,000 at Wembley where Joshua GENERATED 90,000 . A Joshua rematch with ANYONE would by far exceed Lewis rematches with Holyfield ( the biggest draw other than Tyson himself in the 90's ) . It took Lewis the tail end of his career to get ANY note worthy numbers ...... Joshua is doing that NOW . Do the math dummy of who is the bigger draw between them and who is more marketable ,when Lewis was doing FOUR Million dollar fights as the champion without being in the same ring without Tyson or Holyfield until his last fight which was 7 million. Please get a brain !:stupid: Go read some of the posts on here and learn instead of running your mouth looking foolish . Maybe invest some actual time into boxing , instead of handing out L's to everyone who are actually correct all the time ? :loser: Pros were NOT allowed in the olympics dummy , in 2013 only in 2016 when Joyce was STILL green and as a pro fighting is VERY different than the amateurs . Which is why Joyce at ONE fight in is not average skilled fighting the former seasoned U.K champion ,you simpleton . A little boy could figure that out ! Take that L DUMBIUM all around the board and ........... :bryce: You said in 2017: “pro’s are not allowed in the Olympic’s”😭😭😭you were PROVED WRONG! There’s your first L🤣🤣🤣 Regardless of opponent’s Lennox generated more money for himself personally than Anthony Joshua has. That’s a FACT. And no none of Joshua’s rematches generate more than Lewis-Tyson or Lewis-Holyfield. They wouldn’t even be on PPV in the US you stupid little c*nt.😂😂 Lewis-Holyfield done over 1m PPV buys, AJ can’t even do close to a million views in the US on network TV😭😭. There’s your 2nd L🤣🤣 You also claimed that when Joe Joyce was TKO’d by Kuzmin he was a novice. You clearly had no idea of what the term meant cause you’ve never been in a boxing ring in your sad little life. So I’ll explain it to you again, a novice is defined as “someone who has never competed in an open senior championship.” Joe Joyce had already won one (the ABA’s) by the time he fought Kuzmin you dumb f*cker.🤣🤣🤣 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_boxing Read it and weep dumbass. There’s your third L🤣🤣🤣 Your absolutely plagued with L’s Juggernonce😭😭😭😭 LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Some retarded comments here������, Lewis vs Tyson was the highest grossing fight ever at the time, Lewis easily earned 50m+ that night and also add on UK PPV, other international TV money, gate etc. He also earned a tonne of money in the two Holyfield fights, more than AJ’s ever earned in a single fight for sure. Lewis has earned WAAAY and drawn more than AJ you dumbasses, boxing didn’t start in 2012. Learn your history kids. Some massive L’s being taken here. Lewis earned $10m for the first Holyfield fight and $15m for rematch. For the Tyson fight his garanteed purse was $17.5m. His overall purse was closer to $30 mil but nowhere near to $40m let alone 50.

I see the landscape of the heavyweights today, and I will tell you, I sure wish Vinnie Carita were afew pounds heavier. He would ice Joshua.