Everybody knows its easier to knock out a guy 2nd time around, Hatton was damaged goods.
P.S. When is the last time fought anyone with true Boxing Skill?
Oh ya against JMM, which he lost twice.
Mayweather Via Murder
like Cotto was damaged goods against the previously undefeated Foreman?
or how khan was damaged goods after he was knocked out by a mediocre boxer in the 1st round?
and don't get me started on Marquez... you do know Pacq & May are not the only ones that beat Juan, he even got ****ed up by a less skilled fighter in his last fight, imagine what Pacq would do... then again... DON'T, it's too graphic!!
I HOPE YOU DON'T LOOK AS STUPID AS YOU SOUND!
Margarito looked better against Mosley
That's a coward excuse.
Fact is, an old Mosley, as you Pactard fucks like to call him, did better than Pacroid.
Money dominated Mosley and didn't receive full credit.
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a 38 year old Mosley that had 15 months off, and also couldn't get past a mediocre Mora? AND NOW WANTS TO FIGHT PAC BUT DIDN'T BEAT ANYONE TO DESERVE IT.
MOSLEY CAN'T DO WHAT MARGARITO HAS DONE.. AND THATS BEAT COTTO.
MOSLEY HAS HORRIBLE STAMINA AND WOULDN'T LAST 4 ROUNDS AGAINST PAC. OH AND LAST I CHECKED MARGARITO DIDN'T WEIGH 165 WHEN HE FACED MOSLEY YA DIPSHiIT!! FLUCKING FLOMOSEXUAL!
Sad excuse for boxing fans
How many times did Khan eat canvas again? ZERO muthafukkas! aww "the ref was dirty" "Maidana should've won".. STFU!! SHOULDA-WOULDA-COULDA BUT DIDNT! you crybabies are making me laugh. How about you remove Maidana's dick from down your throat and grow the fukk up you whiny biitches!! Give Amir his props you faggity HATERS!!
Top Rank owned Gamboa who was stupid.
Gamboa asked for 70k in advance, he is broke because he is stupid.
damn Mayweather got him all fuked up in the game. im interested in what Dirrell will do now!
Uhh, Jon Bones Jones is 19-1 lmao
Jones got disqualified for battering & bloodying a deaf fighter with illegal elbows. He's never been beaten in the cage.
You keep talking about gloves....how about the fact that Algieri has faced what....two world class fighters his whole career Pacquaio and Prov....Taylor is a fringe contender
Maidana has faced FAAAAAAR better competition than Algieri and its not close
Algieri aint beating Khan, MAyweather, Alexander, probably couldn't have got by Kotelnik who was a good fighter in his own right
You cant sit their and talk about wins and loses when Maidanas opposition makes Algieris look abysmal
I don't give a damn about a poll, I can form my own opinion and have competed and been around combat sports my whole life...Most the people on this forum don't know **** about boxing, haven't been in a ring, trained, kow how to score a fight, let alone how to make a proper fist...This website has some of the least knowledgable posters ive ever seen since I started posting in forums over 10 years ago..Algieri was possibly the most unworthy guy Pacquaio could have fought...you can say what you want about Broner.....he beat a top ten contender in Malignaggi to be ranked in the top ten....Maidana defeated him to be in the top ten...its not that complex that's how boxing works
Maidana had a better chance at beating Floyd, than Algieri did Pacquaio....Maidana with velvet socker bopper pillows stuffed with feathers hits harder than Algieri and was a more dangerous opponent and is a more proven fighter......watch the fights go to boxrec
put it this way do you actually think Algieri had a better chance of beating Pacquaio than Maidana? Algieri was not going to outbox Pacquaio, had no chance of knocking him out and simply put does not belong anywhere in the ring with a top ten world class welterweight
That 0 red K tells it all. Your only here to troll, nothing else.
Mayweather probably done more long term damage to Cotto.
Pacquiao stopped him pretty quickly though. Although that means nothing, Pacquiao was always stop fighters quicker than Floyd, because he gets hit more, and takes more chances, where as Floyd Methodically breaks them down.
go look at Cotto's face after the Pacq fight and tell me who gave him long term damage
Floyd is under his own promotional company but pays goldenboy a fee to handle the logistics so he does`nt have to deal with certain headaches.
Floyd out of his own pockets spends a minimum of 10 million to finance his fights.
Pacquiao has his own promotional company does that mean he's his own boss too?
this isnt a fair comparison becase manny faught cotto with 8 pound gloves in fact he demanded it .... while floyd failweatheer whos scared for his health fought with 10 pound gloves !!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO 10 pound gloves got damn wth they fighting with steal balls?! Floyd's head would've flew clean off his body. :eek:
But he's excatly how he was Physically, he's no different. sure he ruined his options and career.
I'm talking about physically.
dude you know exactly what i meant
Pacquiao broke Margaritos bone by SUSTAINED beating, not a few knockdowns.
Margarito got battered, but It'll not shorten his career, like hard body shots would, Sure though, he'll never be the same.
Martinez done no damage to Paul Williams, so thats a lie. That was a quick knockout, does less damage than hard body shots.
Martinez left Williams broken and with zero hope for his career. no he will never be the same again.
Stopped him, as in Stopped him coming foward, stopped his attack and left him clueless.
I'm not a Pacquiao fan but Pacquiao destroyed him better than Floyd did.
Do I think Pacquiao will beat Floyd? Not a chance in hell.
Pacquiao and Martinez two guys that would end ya boy's career. one bigger, the other smaller... both faster than Cotto and do not stop punching! those are the last 2 pallbearers on his list he can fight. but its up to him to pick his poison!
You know what I meant?
I said Mayweather was hitting him with deep hard shots, that do lasting damage.
Pacquiao was buzzing and stunning him, and ripping his skin apart, with about 20 taps to the head per second, You recover from that pretty quickly.
If you are talking about Mentally? Pacquiao didn't mentally damage Cotto at all, he came back and had good wins, and beat Margarito in the 2nd fight, so came in against Floyd confident, and got out-boxed nearly every round.
So no, I don't know what you mean.
so you saying Cotto is gonna lose from here on out.. cuz Floyd beat him mentally? yeah what he did to Zab & Oscar was devastating LOL :kabong:
please show me where manny let cotto hit him on the face
you know the part where he gets on the ropes and taps his gloves... have you ever watched a Pacquiao fight?
Funny how people forget JMM should murder Pac every time.
A HOF Combination and Counterpuncher vs a come forward brawler.
Yet the HOF Combo and Counterpuncher is the one that lands on his ass and is the one reluctant to open up confined to throw one punch at a time.
The brawler landed at a better percentage and was the one to close the show while the technician faded in the championship rounds.
When you look at it sylistically the most perfect style invented to beat Pac cant even get the job done.
JMM is a very false sense of security for Pac detractors. Think about from a boxing stylistic perspective stripping away the names of the boxers.
Pac is truly remarkable and I have never
considered myself a ******* just a fan of the sport.
I enjoy this guy because I know how infrequently one gets to experience a fighter like this.
murder is on your back dead! JMM can't even come close.
Mayweather probably done more long term damage to Cotto.
Pacquiao stopped him pretty quickly though. Although that means nothing, Pacquiao was always stop fighters quicker than Floyd, because he gets hit more, and takes more chances, where as Floyd Methodically breaks them down.
the fight was stopped in the 12th? how is that quick, fanboy?
sounds like a plip is mad that JMM will pop gesta's cherry
Dawson was not a tune up dummy, besides B-hop fought EVERYBODY. while Marquez didn't fight diddly ****!!
he sat on the ropes with his guard up.therefore he didnt let him hit him in the face.................floyd sat on the ropes to so i guess he let cotto hit him to right?
its called breaking guard, and stop tryin to get literal
Yea but DLH pays more or "charges less" and some people put it
i want proof to that statement! i don't see alot of Goldenboy fighters "big ballin" hmm i wonder why?
Cotto was complacent. No hunger. He got the win he wanted avenging his loss to Margarito. He didnt train hard or focus properly and he faded when he had the lead after rd9. Cotto looked like garbage it was Floyds inactivity and overall decline that made it jokingly easy for Cotto to dictate the pace and attack when he wanted to.
A seasoned Prime Floyd would have knocked that Cotto out in 4.
has Cotto ever been knocked out? ever... is Cotto Gatti or Hatton if so please tell me how.
i dont think its pacman, i think its his team, thats cottos fault or any other fighter if he accepts n that sucks, i dont think pacman is afraid of fighting any of those guys from 154-147, his team is smart n they have the power to that
can Pacq even make 154?
Wow, because getting knocked down does long lasting damage,
Have you ever boxed? from your comments, I really don't think you have.
Hard body shots and uppercuts are probably the most career shortening punches you can have, watch how many shots Cotto was receiving to the body, hard jabs, hard kidney shots.
You are clueless, Skin damage, and being buzzed does not count as "long lasting damage" Simple fact is, Mayweather was landing cleaner than Pacquiao was, he was landing more vicious shots, Cotto didn't go down because he was fighting Floyd at 154 with 10oz gloves.
If they had of been at 147 with 8oz, the fight would have been stopped, and Cotto would of hit the canvas
Before you comment again, I'd suggest you put on a pair of gloves, take a hard punch to the face, then take a hard kidney shot, tell me what one you'll try to avoid next time.
Absouletely clueless.
Pacq gave Margarito longterm damage, Martinez gave Williams permanent damage. i don't understand where are you getting with this dude? just drop it, before...
I think the stakes are an issue too. Manny won a welterweight title at a 145 catchweight and a super welterweight title. at a 150 pound catchweight. He could put his 154 title on the line at a catchweight of 156-158 to make sure Sergio is at a weight he can perform at. That's a catchweight that favors Martinez. Its just not enough in the interview to attack him just yet.
wrong Pacq was 147 on fight night