Do you think they could get away with fighting guys like Likar ramos, that Russian JMM just fought, or cherry pick Gesta a guy who isn't even a contender status yet?
I think Pacquiao and Floyd get hated on hard because when you are FAMOUS and the stars in your sport people like to discredit you, I'm not really impressed with Marquez resume, his legacy and name relies on Pacquiao, nobody calls Ken Norton a great or Ali over hyped after struggling with Norton.
Marquez shouldn't get excused he needs to be hated on the same why you guys hate on Pac and Floyd but even worse because he is really cherry picking a green, no name kick boxer like Gesta and ducking a faded and washed up Erik Morales.
Likar Ramos? come on man at this stage why is a guy many of you calling the BEST better than Pacman, fighting a guy like Likar Ramos, some Russian, and now Gesta?
Imagine again if Floyd and Pac said I need a tune up against Likar Ramos first or let me fight Gesta lol.
They would be blasted like no tomorrow.
It shows how lame boxing fans are, always hating on who is on top and really nitpicking their career, Go nitpick other fighters too, stop focusing on Floyd and Pac.
I guess they want to look cool and hip by not going with the top dog and saying some unknown guy is better. Just stop it Pac and Floyd got to the top because they worked hard and earned it. They aint fighting some Likar Ramos types as tune ups. I dont even think Pac and Floyd have tune up fights anymore to think of it.
Lol, this is some funny ***** right here. JMM has been robbed more than once, i don't blame him when you can't get a fair shake in this business.
And yes, he did beat Pacquiao in their 3rd fight, it was a Marquez highlight reel for crying out loud, lol.
you suppose to include IMO in your post...
Well to be honest to your question. Marquez should be fighting PAC. It was Pac who decided to fight Bradley instead of Marquez 4. Contrary to any of your beliefs Marquez has a great resume and is an ATG. The stories would be quite different in life the fights wouldve been ruled correctly. Pac x 3, Mayweather, Juan Diaz, Casayamour, Chris John, Barrera, Salido, Gainer, Norwood, sanchez whom gave pac fits, and was ducked by Hamed. I didnt put peden or cruz because you probably didnt watch boxing back then.
Marquez is still in the top P4P and should be because of his greastness and IMHO shouldve won the last fight versus PAC. Everyone gave a pass when he ducked Mosley to fight Margarito. So get off Marquez nuts and tell Manny to man up. :lame:
Lol, this is some funny ***** right here. JMM has been robbed more than once, i don't blame him when you can't get a fair shake in this business.
And yes, he did beat Pacquiao in their 3rd fight, it was a Marquez highlight reel for crying out loud, lol.
Didn't marquez reject a rematch with Pac and went to indonesia for 30 grand and lost to chris john?
It was also at that time when he was offered to fight Morales for $1.2 million. He thought he was worth more. Like I said, the guy has air of superiority and thinks he's worth millions of dollars in the box office. Today he is playing hard to get blaming Morales for the fight not happening several years ago.
The only stupidity is you and the apologist of JMM. Please leave, your reply offered nothing credible, he fought better opponents than Floyd or Pac? please stop.
He has had some many stay busy fights, and there you go you answered it, JMM is nothing without Pacquiao its all he does Chase Pacquiao.
You said it now he is only fighting to land a fight with pac, pathetic, he will only be remembered as the guy who gave pac a tough fight.
I haven't seen 1 good comment from you yet. It's all biased crap... and when some agrees you circle jerk each other.
he hasn't fought better opponents in the last 3 years?
list the name of all the opponets Pacquiao and Mayweather have fought and compare them to Marquez's
oh and he hasn't taken "many" stay busy fights he's taken 2 so far.
Didn't marquez reject a rematch with Pac and went to indonesia for 30 grand and lost to chris john?
Also Morales called Marquez out for many years and even this over the hill version wants a shot and Marquez refused to fight him, but nobody accused him of ducking Morales, its funny how fighters get a pass, but I guess the reason according to these guys is because Marquez doesn't make 25 million a fight LMAO that is why he can get away with it.
NO..... Morales hasn't been calling out Marquez for "many years"
that's stupid
they were negotiating a fight that fell through years ago
then Morales called Marquez out when Morales was shot to shit and needed Marquez since Marquez was still fighting at a P4P level...
you can't duck old Morales while calling younger champs in his own division.
I come back and it's page after page of stupidity .... hurp durp he only fought diaz,katsidis and old Casamayor outside of Pacquiao
Marquez has fought better opponents in the last 3 years than Mayweather and Pacquiao...
he takes stay busy fights to land bigger fights. He said it himself.
He's only fighting on to land another fight with Pacquiao. If that's what he wants so be it.
The only stupidity is you and the apologist of JMM. Please leave, your reply offered nothing credible, he fought better opponents than Floyd or Pac? please stop.
He has had some many stay busy fights, and there you go you answered it, JMM is nothing without Pacquiao its all he does Chase Pacquiao.
You said it now he is only fighting to land a fight with pac, pathetic, he will only be remembered as the guy who gave pac a tough fight.
I come back and it's page after page of stupidity .... hurp durp he only fought diaz,katsidis and old Casamayor outside of Pacquiao
Marquez has fought better opponents in the last 3 years than Mayweather and Pacquiao...
he takes stay busy fights to land bigger fights. He said it himself.
He's only fighting on to land another fight with Pacquiao. If that's what he wants so be it.
Marquez is also known for pricing himself too high. It never dawned on him that money doesn't grow on trees for defensive fighters. Morales has been calling him out months ago even to the extent of getting the lesser split. JMM didn't budge. He wanted more. It certainly looked like he's not confident enough of beating Morales.
Didn't marquez reject a rematch with Pac and went to indonesia for 30 grand and lost to chris john?
Also Morales called Marquez out for many years and even this over the hill version wants a shot and Marquez refused to fight him, but nobody accused him of ducking Morales, its funny how fighters get a pass, but I guess the reason according to these guys is because Marquez doesn't make 25 million a fight LMAO that is why he can get away with it.
Marquez is also known for pricing himself too high. It never dawned on him that money doesn't grow on trees for defensive fighters. Morales has been calling him out months ago even to the extent of getting the lesser split. JMM didn't budge. He wanted more. It certainly looked like he's not confident enough of beating Morales.
but jmm didn't school hatton and that's the point exactly!
hatton was the lineal champ at 140 so that's a solid victory, even if he losses to floyd.
I don't see floyd or pac fighting guys like Ramos or gesta, so no they aren't basically the same.
Its funny, because all those guys Floyd and Pac fought are considered bums or shot, yet when those same guys fight other fighters there is no outcry and considered tough fights lol.
Just like with this Bradley fight people are never satisfied, Pacquiao is fighting a very good and talented boxer, he is not a scrub, he is a top rated fighter, never been defeated, is in his prime, yet they act like its a cherry picked fight and Pac should have fought Victor Ortiz, yeah just so they can say he fought Floyds leftovers or some **** like that. See the type of hating logic these idiots share?
Its sad. No other top 10 p4p fighter gets this much hate for their opposition.
I agree with this. Marquez gets away with it, for being a P4P beast, he should be fighting guys like Fedchenko or Gesta once a year only, not back to back to "prepare" for Pacquiao (who he already knows perfectly).
He should be fighting a guy like Judah at least.
From what a Mexian friend of mine said is the reason he refused to fight Morales 5 years ago and even today is because he is envious that Erik Morales is the last Mexican to legitimately beat Pacquiao and not in a close fight he actually beat Pacquiao in a tough fight, Erik Morales will be remembered for being the last Mexican guy to beat Pacquiao, while JMM will be remembered as the guy who gave Pac tough fights but came up short lol.
When they mention Erik Morales they always say the last man to beat Manny Pacquiao, for Marquez they say the guy who got knocked down 3 times int he first round and fought to a draw versus Pacman.
i left cotto out bc he is the only quality opponent.
and come on lol hatton, jmm schools hatton for 12 round ( i dont think he has the power to ko hiim)
but to say pac and floyd have had this glorious run that is levels above jmms is ridic, basically the same.
Seriously why are you making a fool of yourself? I can tell you have a low IQ because who comes to a debate without any defense for JMM? All you are doing is nitpicking Pacquiao just like I said people like you do, and please show me the fighters that are quality wins for JMM.
Take away the Pacquiao fights nobody will know him. Please just stop, I noticed the haters like this always have no shame and don't know how dumb they look.
lol pac fought margarito ( a known cheater) bc he knew he would beat him without his handwraps, and then fought an old shane mosley...and joshua clottey for crying out loud.
thats some run.lol and he was still p4p#1
and floyd fought a fat lightweight, an old shane, and a newb in victor ortiz
yeah thats a great run too!
Joshua Clottey is no joke, please just stop already. Clottey gives every fighter a tough fight, Id like to see JMM fight Clottey, Margarito, and even Mosley, and Mosley didn't look shot against Canelo, slower but I bet that Mosley would have been a challenge for Marquez.
Who has JMM fought besides chasing Pacquiao? take away Pacquiaos name he is nothing, he is only remembered for his fights with Pacman and people think he is so great? the guy gets mashed up by Juan Diaz, and Katsidis and bloodied agianst some thai fighters, come on man. Seriously his best win was versus Barrera and he didnt even look great in that fight.
Now he is still ducking a over the hill Morales and Zab Judah, for a green Gesta and what did JMM say what his motive was for choosing Gesta? Because he wants a southpaw to prepare him for a fight with Pacquiao lol exposed.
Tell JMM to get a life.
I agree with this. Marquez gets away with it, for being a P4P beast, he should be fighting guys like Fedchenko or Gesta once a year only, not back to back to "prepare" for Pacquiao (who he already knows perfectly).
He should be fighting a guy like Judah at least.
he sure seems to have a lot of stay busy fights.
and this is no ESPN or Showtime card usually reserved for stay busy fights, this is a PPV at Cowboys stadium. No excuses man this is a lame ass fight.
i'm not defending this fight
i dont like mercito gesta in the least and dont care to see him fight anybody
certainly not one of marquez last fight's in a huge stadium and on ppv
i'm telling you how it is
why it's that way
and how it's the same way it used to be
new england's pick?
marquez vs morales. no brainer.
You leave out Cotto & Hatton though.
And at least Clottey & Mosley were ranked in the top 10 when he fought them, can't say they same by Ramos, Ukrainian guy & Gesta.
i left cotto out bc he is the only quality opponent.
and come on lol hatton, jmm schools hatton for 12 round ( i dont think he has the power to ko hiim)
but to say pac and floyd have had this glorious run that is levels above jmms is ridic, basically the same.
Do you think they could get away with fighting guys like Likar ramos, that Russian JMM just fought, or cherry pick Gesta a guy who isn't even a contender status yet?
I think Pacquiao and Floyd get hated on hard because when you are FAMOUS and the stars in your sport people like to discredit you, I'm not really impressed with Marquez resume, his legacy and name relies on Pacquiao, nobody calls Ken Norton a great or Ali over hyped after struggling with Norton.
Marquez shouldn't get excused he needs to be hated on the same why you guys hate on Pac and Floyd but even worse because he is really cherry picking a green, no name kick boxer like Gesta and ducking a faded and washed up Erik Morales.
Likar Ramos? come on man at this stage why is a guy many of you calling the BEST better than Pacman, fighting a guy like Likar Ramos, some Russian, and now Gesta?
Imagine again if Floyd and Pac said I need a tune up against Likar Ramos first or let me fight Gesta lol.
They would be blasted like no tomorrow.
It shows how lame boxing fans are, always hating on who is on top and really nitpicking their career, Go nitpick other fighters too, stop focusing on Floyd and Pac.
I guess they want to look cool and hip by not going with the top dog and saying some unknown guy is better. Just stop it Pac and Floyd got to the top because they worked hard and earned it. They aint fighting some Likar Ramos types as tune ups. I dont even think Pac and Floyd have tune up fights anymore to think of it.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Green K given.
What's Marquez best win?
past prime barerra?
GTFO P*ss Drinker.
lol pac fought margarito ( a known cheater) bc he knew he would beat him without his handwraps, and then fought an old shane mosley...and joshua clottey for crying out loud.
thats some run.lol and he was still p4p#1
and floyd fought a fat lightweight, an old shane, and a newb in victor ortiz
yeah thats a great run too!