Lil g just prolonging his retirement check.
For sure, that will almost definitely be his last fight (and absolutely his last big fight), so if he can fight some mid- or C-level guys in the meantime and keep selling his brand and building DAZN (which he has equity in now) I think that's what he'd like to do.
Still, if he waits until he's 40 to fight Canelo he's got to worry about just how bad that fight might go for him.
Many think his best strategy in a third Canelo fight is to take a Hagler-Hearns tack and go all out early on, but if he's 40 and tries that unsuccessfully, he'd almost certainly get knocked out.
Post YOUR explanation if you have a better one, fool.
Haha I don't have a better one, but this is just a basic rundown of info that everybody knows, I was expecting some insight.
At 26 Hrgovic has some time. At 33 Joyce has very little time
Came here to say this. Joyce is aging quick, and I'm not convinced he was ever that good to begin with, watch him throw punches it looks like he's underwater -- slowest currently active heavyweight.
Joyce needs to keep winning against C-level guys and cash out with a fight against one of the top 3.
Can you imagine a Joyce/Fury fight? Joyce would look like he was made of stone.
Lol.... are you serious? I am fully expecting another GGG/Martirosyan spectacle. The guy is rated as the #77 middleweight in the world by BoxRec while GGG is #2 (some would argue he should be #1). This is a horrible mismatch, just because Rolls had some mild success against some C-level boxers and doesn't balloon between fights you think it's going to be competitive?
Do you think they picked Steve Rolls because they wanted a competitive, chess match of a fight? They want a huge early or mid-rounds KO for his DAZN debut, especially after his last two fights that went the distance with no KDs against Canelo.
"Resume wise he KD and beat Nicholson - who drew Aleem, who drew/lost to Korobov, who pretty much drew with Charlo. By that logic he barely beat a guy, who tied with a guy, who barely lost to Charlo and Korobov. Would put him about on their level."
I just want to make sure everybody read that ^, that cracked me up. One of the dumbest comments I've ever read in my life.
to me caleb looked like sh it . that guy had no stamina no punch. could have easily KO'd him instead of backing up. he only tapped him a few times and the guy at the end could barely stand up. WTF were 2 white boys doing in that shi thole jungle complex?
He looked great, the other guy didn't land a single shot and Caleb was landing at will. As others have said he clearly wasn't trying to knock the guy out, if you listen to what him he says, "Can we just stop this now?" Think he just wanted the other guy to leave it be.
I don't think their race is particularly relevant but as far as SES goes I'm pretty sure Plant had a rough upbringing. I know his mother was shot and killed by the police for pulling out a knife, his daughter died at 19 months old -- he's had some tough breaks and has been in some situations he shouldn't've been in.
He will likely go down as an ATG, probably not #1 though obviously.
The thing about Lomachenko is he's amazing to watch, his fights are exciting, and the things he does both defensively and offensively are artful and thrilling. People will be watching his fights on YouTube for centuries. People may rank Mayweather above him historically when all is said and done, but honestly people don't go back and watch Mayweather fights that much.
He has an amazing résumé given he's only had 14 fights. And he's a two-time olympic gold medalist and amateur wunderkind.
He also gets major credit in my book for being willing to fight anybody. Very few fighters today have that quality, how can you even be in contention for greatness/p4p if you won't fight the best?
It's all subjective, and who knows what he'll do in the next 3 - 5 years. Certainly he'll be considered one of the best of this era and will rank somewhere on the list of ATGs, who knows how high.
If GGG is still 80% of what he was then this will still be over in 4 rounds imo, but I always like a guy that had a good amateur career and Rolls had that. And it's boxing and GGG is aging so a man always has a puncher's chance, but yeah I am not saying Rolls is a sleeper at all.
Do you really think Rolls has a "puncher's chance"? He is potentially the first person to KO Golovkin if everything goes right for him?
Tank and Mikey want no part of Loma.
Everyone knew Garcia vs Loma would be a huge fight but Mikey went up to welter to get his ass kicked by Spence because he "saw something". Plus there's the issue of Garcia's relationship with Top Rank. But, Loma would most certainly tell Bob, "I want that fight, make that fight. It's a unification. Offer him a good deal." Bob doesn't mind, he'd get to be involved in a huge fight. Mikey didn't want it.
Tank is still young and I guarantee Haymon is saying to him: "You can fight Loma in 4 years when he's 35 and you're 29. Just keep fighting B and C-level fighters and making money while you're young. Why risk derailing the hype train?"
Seriously though - you can't refute that comparison so you try and name call lol. If that makes you feel better be you
But the fact that Rolls beat and KD Nicholson, who tied Aleem, who was basically as good as Korobov/Charlo...I mean that says something. The guy is not that bad imo. That comparison proves it.
Given that styles make fights, and every fight is different in its camp/psychology/atmosphere/motivation, you can't actually learn that much from a common opponent between two fighters.
Breazeale took Joshua 7 rds, Wilder got rid of him in 1. Does that mean that Wilder beats Joshua? No. People love to make the comparisons but they actually tell us very little.
Your comparison is like three people removed, using that logic to say that Rolls is on Charlo's level is hilarious to me because given that you can't put too much stake in performance against a common opponent (something any boxing head will tell you), this boxing edition of six degrees of separation you've come up with has absolutely no significance.
Sorry to have insulted you.
I've been getting really irritated lately with people defending mismatches. Let the promoter try and talk up a weak opponent, boxing fans shouldn't be defending bad fights. It only makes it easier for them to get made. It's like Stockholm Syndrome, I swear.
I'm probably preaching to the choir but I would encourage everyone NOT TO BUY IT even if you are curious or tempted to.
Don't let them get away with this sh i * t. The only way we can make them pay is by not paying ourselves.
Actually id like to see Khan beat him. That would shake up the division.
If Crawford were to face spence soon, cool, but that isnt gonna happen and he will be left to fighting scrubs.
I want crawford or spence to get eliminated by somebody.
I totally agree, serves them both right for not making the fight and would hopefully serve as a cautionary tale.
There is no valid case to be made for Deontay Wilder being the #1 heavyweight so it's just a question to root out idiots or people who don't pay attention. His only great win is Ortiz and in his most meaningful fight he lost to Fury. Joshua is a unified champion and Fury beat Wilder and Klitschko, enough said.
If someone were to consider him #1 it would have to be for some intangible reason because based on his record it's impossible for him to be any higher than #3.
Everyone wanted him to speak through a translator anyway instead of using a few catchphrases in English. Respect to the guy for learning a third language but sometimes you need help to make yourself understood.
He is Mestizo, even though he obviously has more European blood in him. Look at his brothers and other family members.
they don't look especially indigenous to me in this photo taken shortly before the gang bang
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Boxers with a good defense have always been highly rated and respected in this sport.
Jack Johnson, Willie Pep, Niccolino Locche, Pernell Whitaker...I could go on.
There's nothing new about that. Only to newbs maybe.
I think that to some extent in recent years Floyd has made casuals more likely to think that a guy who shows slick/flashy defense -- even when fighting nobodies -- can go all the way and be a dominant force. It's just not true though, and it's the same with guys who knock out all their low-level opponents -- it shows they have power but has very little bearing on their ceiling in the sport. Off the top of my head some defensive guys recently who were overrated are Josh Kelly and Tevin Farmer.
Lol. Truth.
HBO guys are such shameless shills. People rage about their commentary but I don't. My attitude is, if you want the news, you don't watch an infomercial.
The favoritism and blatant bias is annoying but I mostly dislike it on behalf of new or less discerning boxing fans who are going to take everything they say as gospel. If you know they're going to be biased you can just watch the fight and laugh at their commentary.
I love Roy Jones, though.
It doesn’t destroy his income at all, it makes his future (inevitable) fight against the winner bigger than it ever would have been. If they fight, especially if it’s a good fight, the value of both an AJ v Fury and AJ v Wilder fight increases, regardless of who wins. Obviously the winner will be looking to fight Joshua, but the loser (esp. if it’s fury) is still on track for an AJ fight. This is a fight between a liberal champ and a current wbc champ, either can lose without ruining their reputation.
Some recognize the value of a deep amateur career and its ability to prepare them for a lucrative and successful professional career. As noted US boxing olympians and amateurs you can count on one hand...
Overall, you still have people turning pro very young (Ryan Garcia, Gervonta Davis, "Canelo" Álvarez), and you still have your latecomers. A lot of people (Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder) came to boxing late(r) and became pros quickly because of their skill and to not miss out on prime years.
People turn pro early and late to this day, depending on their skill level and whether or not it makes sense for them as fighters. Maybe they can survive longer as amateurs now whereas it was a financial necessity to turn pro before.
Imagine how different this conversation would be if Wilder was an HBO fighter and not Showtime hahaha.
AJ's not worthy to drink Ali's pee at the moment, but Lampley gave a bit of interesting perspective on Joshua, didn't know that about the Klitschko fight.
7:42 Angel Garcia: "You know what it is? Sometimes you have braze-ya boo... Am I pronouncing that right? Because I'm latino so ..."
Laughed my fuc king ass off
He's ridiculous, but I gotta respect that the guy has paid his dues. I remember watching him commentate Japanese MMA in the early 2000's and I think they just brought him in because he had a degree in broadcasting and sounded pro.
Even though he says corny lines and doesn't really have an eye for the science, I think AK is right because Mauro gives a good presentation and you can tell he puts a lot of hours into his research and prep. That's the kind of guy the networks want to hire, which is probably why he's had so many gigs.
Agreed, I would never ask for him to taken off or anything, he just annoys me personally. He gets respect for really dedicating himself to it, he's just too corny for my taste.