Mosley and Willaims have way better names on their resume..They should be on the P4P list based on resume alone..
It's been established that "P4P" lists aren't definitive anyways. It's merely an outlet for people to end up arguing who they believe the better fighter is, and most of the time everyone is dead wrong.
I mean lol there are people who put Heavyweights on a P4P list even though they're the supreme weight. So what does that say?
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A lot of boxing newbs don't realize how great he was in his prime.
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What I've come to realize...........is the Ring rankings aren't really overly concerned with focusing on a boxer's resume in whole. It's more of a subjective approach where they view the Boxer's abilities and critique from what they see from him.
Because in the past I've been shocked at who they rank on their "P4P" lists but oh well. It's not the end of the damn world.
Plus I don't follow Ring.
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I've become more of a fan of old school fighters.
They fight harder, throw more violent punches, seem to have more endurance, durability and generally more heart than the new school.
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Sugar Ray Robinson was protected and kept away from Mexico's Kid Azteca.
Kid Azteca was the most brutal bodypuncher during that era, and in fact the "Godfather of the Left Hook to the Liver".
Thats why he was kept from fighting for a world title, so that he doesn't KO and embarass Ray robinson and Henrr Armstrong.
Haha. Pfffft.
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I think it was a legitimate injury.
No way he quits otherwise as he had some tremendous wars with Izzy and never gave up.
Yeah I agree.
It's going to be hard to convince me that he's a quitter when he put out that kind of performance, and then finally gave in. **** happens.
Regardless Juanma is a force overall. I don't see many people beating him in the near future. If he unleashes those straight shots it's goodnight for most guys.
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That or Froch will make AA pay dearly with hard counterpunches that add up over the course of the fight ending in a stoppage win.
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Oh Dear I don't know how much more Rafa can take, seriously.
This is becoming a nasty beating.
He's getting tagged over and over.
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Yeah it's not like Rafa isn't one of the P4P hardest punchers in boxing.
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I'm with Tarver in that so far I have Juanma winning basically every round.
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a shame it ends that way
what a war though
respects to both fighters
Yeah coupled with all the punishment he must have done something to his arm. I mean logically it wouldn't make sense if he just walks into the next round and gets tagged more. In my eyes at least.
Great fight! Enjoyed it.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL.
wtf was going on with lamply, i feel like he had a pistol to roy's ribs and was "encouraging" him to talk about mathysse's body work and ignor zab's quick uppercuts and hooks that were snapping mathysse's head back
It's like I was saying, people should just stick to watching World Star Hip Hop videos of street fights and then perfect their scoring.
It's out of control.
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I honestly thought Green was going to stop Johnson before the fight! But that just goes to show you can never write off the Jamaican in my mind.
The guy is a monster.
Dammit Mangler love you boy and always have.
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Learn how a boxing fight works, you stupid fvcking retards.
This isn't the hip hop forum.
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how did juda gas out when he won the last round clearly. show me when mathysse landed ANYTHING in the last round. zab slipped everything, landed a 3 punch combo and a ridiculous straight left. you don't know shi t. those body shots were arm and glove shots over and over. watch it again and stop lying to yourself
Just give up.
There's no point...........it's not even worth debating. I think the solution is removing gloves and people dip their glue covered hands in glass shards then fight 100 rounds until someone is murdered in the ring.
That will end all discussion about who won the match.
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Good to see you in nsb you crazy fuker.
Rafa! .
Going to be tough for him to beat Juanma though. I still think he has the punch to get it done however. We'll see.
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I still don't think you can blame Rafa for quitting.
He took a serious beating and THEN hurt his shoulder. Even if he continued, he would have just taken a worse beating thereby putting his health in jeopardy completely. He was getting out gunned, I mean let's say he was ahead on the cards and showed the ability to put a dent in Juanma, then I guess you can question him quitting the fight.
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NEWSFLASH! Body punches count.
NEWSFLASH he hit gloves and belt. Judah won the fight.
I personally would have scored it a draw but it was seriously close as hell.
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At this point.
I think even if Judah knocked Matthysse out with 1 punch............people would still be whining and crying about how Judah clearly lost the fight.
I think people need to revisit boxing 101.
For some reason the first 6-7 rounds didn't mean anything.
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Lopez looks an entire weight class higher than Marquez.
I was going to say, are those measurements right? lol Juanma looks like he's a Welterweight compared to Rafa.
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Some of you have absolutely no clue how Boxing Works.
Just quit watching the Sport and stick to the Hip Hop street fight videos.
That's more your speed.
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Honestly when did you people start watching the sport of Boxing?
I'm asking a question. .
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I had Zab winning every single round,
Also I scored the 11 + 12 round 10-8 for Judah.
Simply because you idiots need to lie in the road and get trucked.
Yep.
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Come on now. Zab LOST THAT FIGHT!!!!!
No.........................No he didn't.
If that was out doors on the actual street..........yah.
But boxing has rules.
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