this i not a hate thread to pinoys or anything i just dont get it, sure his win against vic was good but enough to bring him into the p4p list?
and once he got there can anyone care to explain how he got all the way up there without beating any ranked fighters, even vic wasnt on the list when donaire beat him
IMO montiel has a much better resume and better wins and hes a legit 3 time world champion unlike donaire who got a paper belt in the superflyweights without beating nashiro or vic again who were the true wba 115 champions
He don't belong there, there's a lot of option before ranking Donaire so high, he beat Darchinyan a hundred years ago and even Darchinyan fought better competition after the fight. The Ring rated him so high based on his talent which hasn't being tested after the Vic win.
I believe he is rated so high because of something he did a long time ago which was to beat Darchinyan. That is it.
This is what is referred to as a getting big break. A lot of fighters enjoy such perks. Floyd and DLH enjoy the same as well. Despite the fact they haven't really done much in ages and fight once a year when they are active. There is a lot of favoritism that goes around that is just the truth.
Meanwhile the fighters that are TRUELY tested are fighting 4 times a year with threat after threat and they are no where to be found on either a p4p list or a top 25 all time great list.
IMO, because Donaire is the best Pilipino boxer we have seen in years.
He rates higher than Salud in my book and finally is getting the recognition He deserves.
I think He will beat the winner of the tour.
Wlad also revenged his brothers first defeat in 2000.
ehhh.......
vitali threw out his shoulder in a fight he was winning.
not exactly the same as vitali avenging wlad getting ktfo.
Chinny earned his way back tho with thosefights..Donaire really has not fought anybody since..Not saying he's not a good fighter or that he won't earn his spot,but for now he really does not belong on this list..
i think they're just giving him too much props for something big they expect him to do in the future and that's because they believe that he has the capability to do it. i believe most boxing fans will agree that he has the skills to become great although there are few posters here who are saying he's a joke which of course is idiotic.
lmao thought the same thing!
Froch just took a L he should not be in the top ten P4P..But neither should Donaire..Based on resume Froch should be in the top over Donaire..
yeah he wasn't but he entered top ten p4p after the donaire fight and after he beat kirilov, mijares and arce in devastating fashion. i also don't agree with ring's ranking donaire in top 10 but i think they put too much weight in that ko win against darchi.
Chinny earned his way back tho with thosefights..Donaire really has not fought anybody since..Not saying he's not a good fighter or that he won't earn his spot,but for now he really does not belong on this list..
I don't want you to bad mouth the kid,hell I'm not bad mouthing him either I think he is a really good boxer..All I'm saying is his resume is shaky..Chinny was not on the P4P ranking when he lost to Donaire,but yet Donaire has been rank without having faced a real challenge..I don't know if he does not belong on the P4P list cause he has not fought a fighter on his level since Chinny,but TBH there are other fighters who deserve it more...
yeah he wasn't but he entered top ten p4p after the donaire fight and after he beat kirilov, mijares and arce in devastating fashion. i also don't agree with ring's ranking donaire in top 10 but i think they put too much weight in that ko win against darchi.
It's been established that "P4P" lists aren't definitive anyways. It's merely an outlet for people to end up arguing who they believe the better fighter is, and most of the time everyone is dead wrong.
I mean lol there are people who put Heavyweights on a P4P list even though they're the supreme weight. So what does that say?
Good post bro..
maybe not anymore but there was a few years when he should have been top 10.
he gave lennox a tough fight and he beat the guy who ktfo wlad silly.
Wlad also revenged his brothers first defeat in 2000.
Did you just say that Carl Froch belongs in the Ring top 10?
Logout and never post again.
Dirty cunt.
Hey stupid can you read??Froch based on resume should be in the P4P ranking over this kid..His biggest win is over Chinny how many yrs ago??Do you not think Froch has fought way better fighters??
hell most pinoys will agree with you Donaire has not done anything to be on that list the guy is a joke right now he needs to step up and go to a higher weight
Because he's a very highly skilled guy, The only thing is he hasnt fought enough good fighters at his or around his weight. I really like this guys boxing IQ just which Top rank can do something with this guy to make him a big star that he deserve to be.
maybe not anymore but there was a few years when he should have been top 10.
he gave lennox a tough fight and he beat the guy who ktfo wlad silly.
That guy sucked :lol1:. And if giving a tough fight meant much, Andrew Golota would be king of the world. I hear you though. While I wouldn't place Vitali within sniffing distance of the P4P list, Wlad could be as high as #3. Donaire is nowhere to be found on my list.
The ring loathes to move people down without them actually losing, Nonito is not the only person that has benefitted from that policy though (Hopkins, Winky, Mosley all come to mind)
Vitali isn't worth sniffing the top ten. Wlad should be in the 3-7 range.
maybe not anymore but there was a few years when he should have been top 10.
he gave lennox a tough fight and he beat the guy who ktfo wlad silly.
p4p rankings become more subjective and less objective the further you move away from #1. most lists would consistently have similar top 3 spots. after that it's chaos.