a glass chin vs a pinpoint puncher with sick accuracy
i love seeing styles clash as well
You just took a guy's weakest point and matched it with the other guy's strongest point. ( And yes, I rate Floyd's accuracy higher than his defense)
How is that fair?
I mean, in a perfect world, Floyd would have fought Pac ages ago. But we have gotten some really bad match ups in Ortiz and Guerrero. Khan will be a much more attractive fight.
LOL. Bullying khan seems to be this site's prime hobby. I, like many others, loved Crawford's performance against Preiscot, and I for one value potential very highly.
So yes, he might have a chance against Khan, but why are we even speaking about this? Surely when one fighter is still is so green in facing A level competition, it is wise to keep him out of the conversation till he notches up a few more victories, no?
I voted "too close to call" as I'm not sure who the victor would be. I like Khan, thought he won against Peterson, was beaten by Danny, then wanted one easy fight with Molina, and I understand that, and he went on to demolish him. But with his second picking of an easy fight with Diaz( let alone the performance), he let me down. So I have to keep my mouth shut till I see him in there with an A level fighter again. Now had he fought someone more well known in his last fight, and pulled out the W, I would back him up fully against Crawford.
GGG by decision.
Hard to imagine Canelo going down. Both have terrific technique in my opinion, but GGG has more power naturally being the heavier man. So Canelo already taking minutes off against fighters will really try to grind a win against Golovkin. But it won't work. GGG's technique is superb, he transitions his defense into offense like no other. All in one fluid motion.
its only more attractive because it will end in a KO
I have to disagree. It is not the ONLY reason. I predicted a TKO for Floyd in the 9th round myself, but Khan will land shots. For sure. THAT is what will make the fight attractive. To see Floyd being in spots of bother.
LIL Wayne ain't music
Hey,don't be like that. Lil Wayne gave us some great songs before all this young money hoopla. But these days, it seems he can't write a song to save his life. But when measuring someone, I think it's better to take into account their whole productivity.
Very few rappers or even artists in general have made 10 or more solo studio albums. Lil Wayne is one of them.
Canelo.....is good boy
I was waiting for someone to say this! LOL
That's one of the best catchphrases to ever come out of boxing. Why aren't there posters,trunks,t shirts being made out of this?
LOL. Bullying khan seems to be this site's prime hobby. I like many others, loved Crawford's performance against Preiscot, and I for one value potential very highly.
So yes, he might have a chance against Khan, but why are we even speaking about this? Surely when one fighter has still is so green in facing A level competition, it is wise to keep him out of the conversation till he notches up a few more victories, no?
I voted "too close to call" as I'm not sure who the victor would be. I like Khan, thought he won against Peterson, was beaten by Danny, then wanted one easy fight with Molina, and I understand that, and he went on to demolish him. But with his second picking of a easy fight with Diaz( let alone the performance), he let me down. So I have to keep my mouth shut till I see him in there with an A level fighter again. Now had he fought someone more well known in his last fight, and pulled out the W, I would back him up fully against Crawford.
Will be an awesome fight. I love seeing styles clash.
Khan will do better than people expect him to. Coming inwith flurries Floyd hasn't been subjected to in a long time. But sooner or later, Floyd will make it increasingly difficult for Khan to step back after these flurries, tying him up and then using his speed for some devastating shots as Khan is too slow to get back. Ultimately, Khan will realize he needs a KO for a win, which is when he will open up more, giving Floyd even more chances to hurt him bad, possibly get him out there.
My Prediction: 9th round TKO win to Floyd.
Well, I can only tell you why I picked Donaire over Rigo. I gave too much value on experience. I was splitting my hair over the predictions because it's not often when the two best fighters of a division go against each other. Both those guys seemed incapable of losing, and yet someone had to (if it wasn't a draw). I just thought Nonito had better ring smarts due to being more battle tested. I just thought he would impose his will over Rigo someway or the other. But I knew Rigo was vastly more skilled than Donaire. So it was experience vs skills to me, and I chose experience. Next time if such a opportunity arises again, I shall go with skills.
Yeah but if you actually pay real close attention to those first 2 rounds (which is irrelevant, really) you will see that Garcia is missing big shots by a hair, literally a hair. Through my assessment of the first 2 rounds, is when I came to the conclusion, and I'm dead serious in saying this, that Khan will get stopped and it proved right. Not only me but my older brother as well, we both called it before it happened. Those first 2 rounds wasn't as dominant as it's been made out to be, Khan was playing with fire, that's how I saw it.
I did pay close attention. I wasn't talking about the risk factor, just who won them rounds. Khan's weak resistance to punches will always make it close as he can get KOed, or lose a round where he is shook.
But other than that, hard to win rounds against Khan with his hand speed, through which he lives vicariously. So yes, there will be the risk factor again, but I'm taking Khan in the rematch.
Also Khan's attitude leading up to the Garcia match was disgraceful. He thought he was going to KO him (maybe Angel got to his nerves). This time around, just by hitting and holding, he will pile up the rounds. And yes, there will be a scare or two which he has to survive. But I bank him to do it.
Khan wins the rematch imho.
Garcia's most impressive victory to date has been with Kendall Holt. He is good, but I'm just not impressed. I love that he has a great follow thorough on his punches and that he sits on them. But no one on earth gave any of the first two rounds in Khan vs Garcia to Garcia. And Khan can easily replicate that over the 12 rounds, because he simply has the legs to.
How in the world could any of you have the nerve to leave out Juan Manuel Marquez? He is by far one of the smartest and most technical boxers left today. In the Top 5 easy, without any doubt.
Oops, slipped my mind. Marquez bumps off Quillin then.
Going through the responses, a lot of you have been calling for Klitscho and Ward to be put on. I think what hampers them in looking as smooth( one of the criteria I laid out for technicality) is that they don't throw combinations as much. Single punches can be smooth too,no doubt, but it's when you string punches together that make you look almost video game like.
Matthyse. Easy. Oh, and I'm glad Rios or Alvarado weren't included in the options in the poll. Sluggers only go so far. Even if Alvarado has a nice jab and can roll with punches, he is still a slugger in the end of the day.
I had it 96-94 to Broner.
Very close fight,robbery is out of the question.
However if you are so anxious to find a Broner beater,look no further than Fernando Quinterro who I thought beat Broner. Totally outclassed him by circling him and changing angles. Broner got the MD in the 8 rounder. But I gave Quinterro 5 rounds. Still no robbery, but yeah, it was one fight where the Problem was solved imho.
I know you did this poll as a joke to poke fun at Khan's chin. But the matter of fact is, Bailey doesn't throw enough punches. Easy work for Khan. To test that low resistance chin, you need to throw often. Bailey's too lazy.
Is this about technical soundness or how aesthetically pleasing they are?
Ahh, you bring up a great point. I guess what I meant was a combo of the two? Because to a lot of fans ,bangers and sluggers also constitute as aesthetically pleasing fighters.
What I meant was technicality(smoothness,timing, balance) with an aesthetic touch.
Her name is Monica Sears. She is the PR for Goldenboy Promotions. She basically makes sure everything goes smooth. Every time a fighter talks she makes sure everything is cool. Make sure they are on time ... publicist basically ...
Thanks a lot! I knew someone in this forum would know.
He doesn't need volume. 1 shot from Bailey and Khan isn't getting back up in a hurry to do some silly dance routine.
I can't see him going the distance without eating something, not with his style & defensive flaws.
Maybe worth noting Mike Jones is like a bigger, far more polished version of Amir Khan.
Did you see Bailey's last fight against Alexander? It set a record I think for the lowest volume of punches thrown. Khan has enough speed to dart in, and dart out without being hit.
All the showtime commentators suck. Lampley of HBO is biased as hell.
I would pick RJJ, kellerman and gotta mix it up with an englishman, Steve Bunce.
Though Bunce hates Kellerman's style, this would make a cracking commentary team.
Now at so and so figure suggests that people are still buying the PPV. Which begs the question, have these people have heard of youtube or other free stream sites?
I like Khan but I don't think the power or volume of Diaz's punches were the same as Provodnikov's. Before the onslaughts even happened, there were many hard shots which Bradley just ate like it was nothing.
Had it been Khan at the end of those, he would have started the chicken dance quite early.
Nothing against Khan, I think he's an elite fighter because of his blurring hand speed which is how he manages to win rounds. But he has weak punch resistance, and thus will forever be suspect to the one shot KO. And even if he doesn't go down, his punch volume will, thus giving the round to whoever is facing him.
Don't know where to start with this one.
For one, he beat the most ducked guy in his division, Ajose Olesegun.
Olesegun is a tremendous fighter,hand speed,foot speed,power, skills,chin,will. A near complete package.
Good analysis. I thought it was really close! And I think Showtime's commentary is a joke. If you thought HBO commentary was biased, just brace yourself for Showtime's incompetence and general impartiality.
I had it 114-113 to Garcia.
I thought Judah fought a smart fight, and controlled the earlier rounds. But soon Garcia totally outclassed him in all 4 aspects of scoring. Even all the last 3 rounds were not all Judah's as the judges would have you believe. But my main contention is the early rounds. I didn't like it at all how Showtime gave them to Garcia, not even conceding that they were very close.
Overall, a good fight. I think Judah should just retire now to maintain his pride, and of course not risk his health.
This is how I had it.
http://i.imgur.com/B4WyZQd.png
Robbery? No way. Rios-Abril was a robbery. Hate to sound cliched, but this could have gone either way, I barely had Rosado winning.
Sorry man, I had the same score in the end, but your round 6 is plain wrong. You can't score that 9-9. I get your reasoning, a KD is a point off. But it doesn't work like that, it's an automatic 10-8 Rosado unless Love dominated the rest of the round, in which case it's 10-9 Rosado. But Love didn't dominate, merely won the remainder so 10-8. Not sure Rosado won rd 4 though.
Are you sure? That's not how Lederman does it. 10-9 is always to the winner, and 1 point always of for a knock down. So the options were 10-8 to Rosado if you thought Rosado won the round. Or 9-9 if you thought Love won the round.
I'm pretty sure about this, but your strong conviction is confusing me now. I will go back and try to find a source for you.