I was one of the 40% who picked Rigo, but why did some think Donaire would win so easily?
Rigo has shared the ring with Gamboa, Russell Jr, Mares, Abril among another host of top class fighters. It was Donaire actually who was the less experienced fighter going in.
btw, anyone know if Hook_84 is still alive?
hahah i was gonna bump one of his threads, id be surprised if he was, his other name he made was angelo, i know because he made the same exact stupid threads all about donaire after he got banned. this was his last post
rip
Donaire 4-1
because he was the more reasonable pick among the two in a 12 round boxing match. vegas oddsmakers are not dumb people.
donaire had been doing some of the best work in boxing at the time. rigondeaux hadn't. rigondeaux was largely unproven until the donaire fight. we didn't know fully what he had, and we had to guess. i guessed wrong. i didn't hink he was that good.
it was really a pretty easy pick to make. i picked donaire to win the fight via knockout. it just turned out to be wrong.
btw, anyone know if Hook_84 is still alive?
Im more interested about Light Speed. The guy fell off the phase of the earth.
Hook_84 aka Rachel is focusing on delivering a healthy baby now.
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Well, I can only tell you why I picked Donaire over Rigo. I gave too much value on experience. I was splitting my hair over the predictions because it's not often when the two best fighters of a division go against each other. Both those guys seemed incapable of losing, and yet someone had to (if it wasn't a draw). I just thought Nonito had better ring smarts due to being more battle tested. I just thought he would impose his will over Rigo someway or the other. But I knew Rigo was vastly more skilled than Donaire. So it was experience vs skills to me, and I chose experience. Next time if such a opportunity arises again, I shall go with skills.
No such thing. Experience is something you can't teach. I think people just underestimated Rigo's experience cause he was "an amateur".
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Naw, man. We saw all we needed to see in the first fight. All questions were answered. Rigo's chin is up to the task; his style counters Donaire; and his skills are greater than Nonito's. "Flash" might do better on a second go, but he gets beaten in a rematch.
rigondeaux fought the perfect fight, he lowered his output, moved, minimised the risks as much as possible
donaire has plenty of room for improvement, in a rematch simply being more aggressive can win it for him, he showed he can play margarito vs rigo's power, in a rematch worrying about landing the straight right more than the left is another, plenty of things, rigo will have to fight the same way he did the first time, he can't go to war with donaire, no matter what you think you saw in that first round or the last(really dont think donaire was "hurt" in the classic sense, just took a mean punch to the eye)
99% was on pure PRIDE from Donaire fans, can't pick fights with your PRIDE if you do that and your a gambling man, you always lose your money
stylistically I knew it was a HORRIBLE MATCH UP for Donaire after his fight with Omar Narvaez, also felt like the worst thing that happened to Donaire's career was the KO of Montiel...because after that fans would just go on to expect KO's EVERY FIGHT and that is exactly what happened
Rigondeaux like Pernell Whitaker in his PRIME, it is a style you can't look good against no matter what you do because they are just so clever and quick and is always under control so I would just laugh when I seen Donaire fans say "Donaire will knock him out in 4, or 6 or 8 Rounds :no:
The one thing I was confident of was that Rigo wasn't getting KOed. (I made three bets on it.) As for Guille winning a decision, which was the likeliest way he could win (especially after seeing how great Nonito's chin is), I didn't feel so confident. I thought a robbery might be in the cards. Even after a dominant performance, where he won ten or eleven rounds, "El Chacal" was awarded a fairly close decision. Is there much doubt who the winner would've been had Donaire put in a better account of himself?
Well, I can only tell you why I picked Donaire over Rigo. I gave too much value on experience. I was splitting my hair over the predictions because it's not often when the two best fighters of a division go against each other. Both those guys seemed incapable of losing, and yet someone had to (if it wasn't a draw). I just thought Nonito had better ring smarts due to being more battle tested. I just thought he would impose his will over Rigo someway or the other. But I knew Rigo was vastly more skilled than Donaire. So it was experience vs skills to me, and I chose experience. Next time if such a opportunity arises again, I shall go with skills.
P.Rican here. I'm only asking for a great fight. At first thought, I picked Donaire since he's definitely more proven on the professional level, but TBH I've slowly been changing my mind. I think Rigo will make it hard for Donaire to land. It's a high possibility of it being a boring fight but it could be a dominant performance for Rigo.
If Donaire is comfortable and is able to get in close and land, it might be a short night.
50/50 fight for me. Saturday can't come soon enough! :boxing:
Yup, I called it.
99% was on pure PRIDE from Donaire fans, can't pick fights with your PRIDE if you do that and your a gambling man, you always lose your money
stylistically I knew it was a HORRIBLE MATCH UP for Donaire after his fight with Omar Narvaez, also felt like the worst thing that happened to Donaire's career was the KO of Montiel...because after that fans would just go on to expect KO's EVERY FIGHT and that is exactly what happened
Rigondeaux like Pernell Whitaker in his PRIME, it is a style you can't look good against no matter what you do because they are just so clever and quick and is always under control so I would just laugh when I seen Donaire fans say "Donaire will knock him out in 4, or 6 or 8 Rounds :no:
Honestly some people including myself took into account Donaire's accomplishments in the pro's compared to Rigo's. I changed my pick to Rigo though because I threw that out the window and looked at each fighters skills and fighting styles. Donaire looks best against someone who comes forward and Rigo has too much ring IQ to play into his styles. Plus Rigo is faster, better boxer, more accurate, better overall.
Man from the first round I already knew where this fight was going.
Once I saw Rigo take a shot and deliver his own and was willing to exchange I already knew. He showed he could take Donaire's punch and return with a harder one and of course he had the technical advantage on his side.
I was still nervous/pumped as hell and couldn't even eat.
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I loved it. It was like a great, big "fuck you." Rigo wanted to make a statement early. He stood his ground and let it be known he wasn't going anywhere. As much as I loved the idea, it concerned me. It wasn't until the fifth round, or so, that Guille started to move around a bit, and my tension eased. But I was on the edge of my seat the whole fight, especially during the twelfth, when it looked like Rigo might knock Donaire out. My voice was almost hoarse from yelling, "Vamos, 'Chacal!' Vamos, 'Chacaaal!!" lol
Naw, man. We saw all we needed to see in the first fight. All questions were answered. Rigo's chin is up to the task; his style counters Donaire; and his skills are greater than Nonito's. "Flash" might do better on a second go, but he gets beaten in a rematch.
This here is spot on. And since he turned pro, I thought he would easily be one of the top fighters out there. Glad he got the Nonito fight and won. Was annoying to hear so many posters discrediting the guy like he was not good at all and how he would get knocked out easily.
Honestly, after the year that Donaire had in 2012, there was really no surprise that so many people favored him over Rigo. He was riding him and handling guys. But when looking at the styles, I thought that Rigo posed a problems for Donaire and that ended up being the case.
if there is a rematch i'd pick donaire again
Naw, man. We saw all we needed to see in the first fight. All questions were answered. Rigo's chin is up to the task; his style counters Donaire; and his skills are greater than Nonito's. "Flash" might do better on a second go, but he gets beaten in a rematch.
it was also the "rigo only has 11 fights" thing. i always knew it was BS because rigo has transitioned nicely into the pros from the amateurs.
and the chin thing was way overblown by posters on here.......
I've seen greats rocked and knocked down (ali, sweet p, duran)
being rocked a few times doesn't = a weak chin.
when will people learn........
for most part everytime he got dropped was when he already had fight n hand and trying to make crowd happy thats y i didnt think to much of it