If they go to negotiations and GGG doesn't budge off 160 screw him. He said a couple weeks ago he'd still do 154 for Floyd. Canelo is the next biggest fight out there.
Well I wonder who Quitto is gonna fight now? Ducked Canelo, Duck isn't even the right word for what he's doing regarding GGG, and now can't even get a K-9 fight. As each day goes by I loath this guy more and more.
Right Dana, Bob Arum knows nothing about fighting. He's only been in the fight game since before you were born. God can the MMA guys shut up and go back to MMA. Can't wait til Conor's instagram post Sunday morning about losing but being a man/champ cause he went against the grain and tried something that no one has done before ( See Nate Diaz post fight post ).
You're out of control, lol.
Golovkin is a boxer, not a puncher, he's a complete fighter.
The better fighter is Golovkin in every facet.
Lucky? You need to watch more fights. Canelo wasn't effective in anything he did that night, in no way is he a better boxer, or fighter for that matter. He was surviving half the night. Golovkin stalked him, cutting the ring off, and landing almost at will. Golovkin landed more jabs, by a lot in fact, and you call his opponent the better boxer? That makes zero sense. Zero.
This absolute rubbish. To say GGG is better in every facet, is simply a complete jock riding statement. You can look at at the 1st 3 rounds and tell. GGG had landed one type of punch - The jab. Canleo had out landed him with body punches 14-0, landed more power shots, and had made him miss a lot.
GGG does two things better than Canelo, work off his jab and cut off the ring. Canelo is a much more complete boxer. Not to say GGG isn't great in what he does, but his game plan is a simple one. Work off the jab, cut off the ring, and pressure his opponent into an area where he can have success throwing power punches. It's not rocket science. Canelo is the much more slick, refined fighter. His waiste movement is exceptional and his ability to make one miss and counter is as good as any one in boxing.
Yes, there are things GGG does better than Canelo, but there are also things Canelo does better than GGG. To say GGG is better in every facet is complete and utter BS!!!
People calling this a robbery need to start actually thinking about what they are talking about. A robbery is 118-110 Canelo, yes but that was one card and the other two were razor thin, which is what the fight was.
After multiple viewings, I can't see how anyone in their right mind can give GGG 8 rounds, and If you give him more than 8 your as disgraceful as Byrd. Canelo was the aggressor and for the most part controlled the first 6 rounds barring pockets of sustained advance from GGG, but there is reason it was only in pockets, and that is Canelo power shots. I'm not saying Canelo won all six I'm just saying his boxing style was the dominant one. I think 4 was really close, I think 6 was also. 7-9 GGG clearly was the better fighter, but this is where Canelo was still having pockets of success.
Those pointing out punch stats, they bare out exactly how really the fight really played out. GGG landed around 40 more punches, mostly jabs. On the flip side he missed 150 more punches than Canelo. I don't think anyone coming into this fight thought Canelo would be the one out jabbing GGG, also Canelo out landed power shots by a few, but the telling stat there is percentage. He landed almost 10 percent more, the punch stats bare out what the fight was, which was Canlelo letting GGG swing away with the jab, making him miss, and countering with power shot effectively. I had the fight 114-114, I can see 115-113 either way. I honestly think anyone with an ounce of scoring knowledge and an ounce of boxing knowledge who have this 116-112 for either guy, after objectively watching it and aren't hard on the jock of one guy or the other is absurd.
Wasn't GGG and company telling Ward they wanted him at 164 or no fight? So don't give me this GGG is above the catchweight bull crap when he was doing the same stuff. GGG needs Canelo, and not the other way around at all. Canelo is the bigger name, the lineal champ, and brings more to the PPV table than GGG is close to.
So GGG and company need to shut up with the we don't do catch weight crap cause they asked for one less than a year ago, start negotiating it up to about 157 or 158 and fight. I fully believe Canelo would do it.
I didn't see Alvarez start tiring til maybe in the 6th. This is where his effectiveness started to wain a bit, and to GGG's credit he started putting the pressure on in the 4th to get him to this point in the 6th. I think saying Alvarez started to tire after the 3rd is a bit premature. I thought the fight started to tighten up after the 3rd, but this was due to GGG starting to really press, and throw a lot of jabs, but I think both men were having success in the 4,5, 6th.
It’s sad no hair testing done. All cheats would be caught hair goes back long long time shows all drugs
A piss test shows the same results as a hair test. He'd just fail it for Clen again for the same time he took it. A little thought into hair test you'd realize it makes no sense. He'd fail it for Clen again and he can just say it was from that incident or he could just say **** off I was out of competition during some of that period.
GGG's trainer talking about level of competition is a bit ironic. Either Maebel Sanchez has a media guy come out to Big Bear everyday or he has a daily time slot with one. There isn't another trainer out there who talks more than him these days. He's worse than Roach now.
This is dumb logic, and just more crap coming out of their camp. Anyone ever notice that Canelo and his trainers rarely go running to the first camera or recorder they can find and talk this mess, but GGG and Maebel Sanchez always do so. If you really want to get a gauge on actual fights likelihood of happening listen to the promoters not the Boxer and trainer and if you go back before their previous fights both Loeffler and Oscar said that the fight was gonna happen. Loeffler actually being the one saying this fight had to happen their was too much money involved and they both needed to win their upcoming fights to do so ( I'll point out that GGG by some accounts lost or drew to Jacobs, I thought GGG won it by winning the final round.)
So can we quit with the well this fight might now have happened crap. Well GGG you didn't knock Jacobs out and like I previously said won by the skin of your teeth. So if I were GGG and Sanchez I'd be more worried about cleaning some mistakes up rather than running to the press about the whether this fight was gonna happen or not.
Quite a jump in PPV sales and live ticket sales from the Smith, Cotto and Chavez fights.
Chavez fight did more PPV buys, and Canelo has sold out the Alamo Dome and Houston Astros Baseball sadium vs Trout and Kirkland. GGG had very little to do with the numbers. He's just not a draw. As hard as people try to skew the number, the actual numbers don't lie.
Don't be biased bro! So you're saying the 350k Canelo did vs Angulo or Lara is all he gets?
Takes 2 to tango and when you face the best? the people will buy it.. GGG doesn't have any drawing power because he's not a **** talker and he's got a weak promoter..
Now lets hope the rematch happens and we watch another great fight!
Weak promoter? K2 might be number 3 in the sport. Tom Loeffler is one of the most respected guys in the business. Yeah Canelo did 350k vs a tomato can, and a guy who's so boring to watch in Lara he'll put people to sleep.
GGG drew less than 200k vs two guys who are legit KO threats just like him. People say everyone loves the knock outs. Well, they probably do, but apparently not enough to buy GGG's fights.
I'm not being biased, it's just the truth. The numbers don't lie
Canelo is a more skilled boxer than GGG. Just cause you have success in the Amateurs doesn't automatically mean your more skilled than someone, but What GGG does isn't complicated, not saying it's not effective. He sticks a jab, cuts off the ring and puts you in uncomfortable situations and loads up on power shots.
Being as effective counter puncher as Canelo takes lots of skill, so does his waiste movements followed by lots of combination punches. To be flashy and slick takes skill. Leading someone to the ropes to set a trap takes tremendous skill also.
ODH wants to age Golovkin another 4 months if he can promote 2 of his own fighters. Pretty sure he won't pay Saunders' ransom, but if he's promoting both fighters it makes sense.
Age 4 more months. WTF? You don’t age over a 4 month period unless your in your 90’s or have terminal illness. The rematch was always gonna happen in May or September anyway. I don’t really like Oscar saying this, but it’s also about as bad as GGG’s team saying May was longer than they wanted to wait before fighting again. I mean it’s known fact that Canelo is a two fight a year guy at the moment. Cinco De Mayo and September. Both sides are trying to create leverage, which in the end will hopefully be nothing that roadblocks the fight.