Want to continue the discussion bumping the old thread,
What is included in the Mid-West actually? Only Michigan, or all Michigan, Detroit, Cincinnati, and Philadelphia? What do you call east cost and south?
Does James Toney belong to Mid - West too?
Where did "fighting in the pocket" come from? The most notable guy I know was George Benton and he represented Philadelphia?
Thanks
Felix Savon - Never turned pro.
Guillermo Rigondeaux - You know the rest ;)
Mark Breland - Turned pro, very good welter.
Vasyl Lomachenko - On the new 'semi-pro' circuit currently 5-0/6-0 I believe.
Laszlo Papp - Turned pro, retired undefeated with a record of 27-0
Teofilo Stevenson - Never went pro.
Joel Casamayor - Multi weight world champion
Pernell Whitaker - ATG one of the top lightweights to ever live, multiple weight world champion.
Mario Kindelan - Never went pro
Nino Benvenuti - Very good middleweight fought Tiger, Monzon etc
I'm sure somebody deep in boxing history could answer better but off the top of my head that is what I've got.
I can add to this list
Sugar Ray Leonard - Olympic champion 1976
Roy Jones Olympic champion 1988
already mentioned Kostya Tszue - Top world contender
Andre Ward - Olympic champion 2004
Oleg Saitov - 2 times Olympic champion, bronze due to loss to Ward in 2004
Aleksei Tishchenko - 2 times Olympic champion
Last, but definitely not least
Cassius Clay at that time
Guerrero seems nice guy, but he is not charismatic at all. This puts all on Mayweather shoulder to propel the interest to All Access Show. Mrs Jackson certainly is a good substitute for Guerrero
I am disappointed in Canelo after Trout, I see signs of star-sickness: slow on legs, stamina problems in later rounds, no short punches... Mayweather's jab is far better than Trout's jab. Yea, it is still a risky fight, but Mayweather still has it to outclass the canelo kid.
The simple fact is Mayweather would not hurt Leonard, but Leonard may hurt Mayweather. "May" because this has to be set up, but I believe ring "chess-playing" skills of Leonard would allow him to do it. He would chase Mayweather like he chased Hearns for 14-15 rounds and caught him in the end, Mayweather may be winning on point by that time
Broner is rather ordinary, I don't get all of the hype behind him............... Rockin':boxing:
With all respect to your opinion, I find Broner one of the sharpest punch snappers in the game. It is definitely not enough to consider him truely special, but he is above average already.
a similar thread may have been made but am I the only one who thinks ward should not be working for hbo during fights? he is just awful he does educate at times I just think its time to try someone new
I agree, the public wants entertainment, not education with all respect to Ward
I remember George Foreman liked to educate a lot and teach fighters what they should do as if they could hear him. BUT, George with all respect was telling wrong stuff quite often, so it was hilarious :dunce: unlike Wards lecturing
That's his fault, he likes to keep hands to low, likes to switch to a crappy stance after 2-3 rounds. He is not schooled well, hope the fight with Garcia, would teach him something
To be honest, and I know people will disagree, but Duran vs Lenard the first fight was boring. Just a lot of punching/ clinching.
I accept. As many people as many opinions. We look for different things in boxing
Just because of the first fight in Duran vs Leonards trilogy, the trilogy scores 10 times above all trilogies listed here, including sloppy slugish punching C grade figters Gatti-Ward
Maybe it was all set up?
Pacman camp fired Ariza with a scandal, so that he would be trusted by Rios camp. Ariza would play an offended party, and just before the fight would punk Rios with the light Ariza-shake, so Rios looses, even if he wins the fight?
Look, son, I'm 45 years old and watched the 2nd Duran/SRL fight live...just like I watched the SRL and Hearns fight live at my Dad's friend's house fight party. Just like I watched SRL in the 76 Olympics when I was 8 years old. Just like I watched Tyson coming up. I was 20 and paid 40 dollars for the Tyson and Spinks PPV and had 15 friends over for it, etc...
don't tell me shidt, kid. I suggest you go back and watch that 2nd fight again, and you'll see SRL dancing, boxing, and mocking Duran to the point where Duran quit because he couldn't deal with it any longer. SRL outsmarted him, and Floyd would have done the same thing, but countered him better than SRL.
Class dismissed.
Everybody knows Duran took the fight lightly and was simply badly conditioned for it. I do not claim he would win being properly conditioned, but performance-wise this would be a different story for sure. Everybody can have their weak moment,s Duran felt GOD-LIKE after first fight with SRL, he was a the top of the top, he could only go down... and he did )
Benitez in SRL fight would kill Mayweather
May had good chances to win decision over Duran in 12 round bouts
If 15, this would be a late round slaughter
Maybe God has arranged the motivation Zab needs not to quit this time, keep focus, and have bad intention during the fight. The fight gets really intriguing now!
Cano is no pushover. I just hope Shane knows what he doing. Although, he could surprise us all. Past prime fighters seem to do that every 3rd or 4th fight on average. Stranger things have happened.
I kinda have similar expectations. With nothing to prove mindset, he can really show some above average performance (for his shape, not in general).