Lots of people seem to think that Broner would beat Hamed but I just don't se it. Hamed has better movement, the better jab, he is just as fast and has way better power. Neither has the GREAT defense, but Broner's defense may be better. I think Nas will touch Adrien and close the show inside of 5. Broner likes to stalk his opponents, you die off you do that against Naz.
To think an overrated 126 lbs fighter that Barrera dominated beats Broner is asinine.
You've spent a large portion of this thread pissing and moaning because another poster made his pick and justified it by pointing out the obvious in stating that he was a better fighter than a fighter who beat Broner, and yet you've just cited Barrera - a fighter who is leagues above Broner and bears absolutely no stylistic comparison to Broner - beating Hamed as the reason why such an opinion is "asinine."
You're too much of a dolt to see the irony in such a post. :lol1:
Hamed would have sparked Broner out, he was way to slick and very heavy handed, he didn't even have to load his shots up to knock you out
Don't let the Barrera fool you, that was Hamed not in his prime anymore and if you break down the fight it was still very close.
Broner is easy to hit and Hamed would have taken advantage of it
Hameds chin was granite and the only time he hit the canvas was due to loss of balance, he would get up instantly
Lucas beats a prime Tyson :lol1: now you're just talking out your ass.
So I guess everybody that believes Naz would beat Broner is asinine and don't know anything about boxing in your eyes huh?
You know i'm not the only one that believes Nas would have beat Broner right?
Stop crying. You're always getting ****ted on for your worthless opinion.
Haven't read the thread but Hamed never fought over 126 and Broner started at Super Feather.
Broner at his lightest is very green and Hamed at 126 was his prime weight. Not really a good comparison.
Lots of people seem to think that Broner would beat Hamed but I just don't se it. Hamed has better movement, the better jab, he is just as fast and has way better power. Neither has the GREAT defense, but Broner's defense may be better. I think Nas will touch Adrien and close the show inside of 5. Broner likes to stalk his opponents, you die off you do that against Naz.
Wasn't Hammed a featherweight? How old was Broner when he was in that division? Around the time he fought De Leon? Still very young? Doesn't sound like a fair matchup to me.
I think Broner would KO Hamed. Broner is a big lightweight so he has a size and weight advantage. Broner is fast and accurate with his very hard punches. Hamed was a very hard puncher but Broner is the bigger man and seems to take a punch well. Hamed could be careless with his leaping in attacks. I think it's more likely Broner catches Hamed with KO punches than the other way around.
Lots of drunken posting going on in here. lol First off why would you put a prime prince naseem vs a very green broner?. prince naseem was only good cause his punches came from weird angles and he used alot of antics in the ring other than that he was a ordinary fighter with power. Broner has more hand speed and power than naseem had ever seen in his short lustrious career. Broner has his weakness and it's his defensive skills and they are really bad, but nothing that one of mayweather brothers couldn't fix speaking of roger or floyd senior. look at the barrera fight prince naseem got the snot beat out of him. he was humiliated. There's a reason he disappeard from boxing after that fight. lol
I know what the **** a triangle theory is. Forget the Khan-Judah fight. I am saying Khan is a better fighter than Judah (which he is), forget that they fought, so he obviously beats Matthysse based on that moron's logic. Forget it I'm done the guy is an idiot.
Well in that case you have a real solid case. I believe styles make fights, but you can't ignore the massive weight difference between the two.
However in the mystical land were everyone is the same size, who do you think would win?
And that's your opinion, you see how that works now fan boy? I don't get butthurt over people's opinions like you do. My opinion is that Naz would beat Broner anyday of the week prime or not. You obviously disagree, and I have no problem with that cuz that's your opinion.
You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. You can also have the opinion that Lucas beats a prime Mike Tyson, it still makes you a dumb piece of ****. To think an overrated 126 lbs fighter that Barrera dominated beats Broner is asinine. This is the last time we ever talk, because you don't know **** about boxing.
Let me try to explain what the other guy is saying.
A triangle theory only works if the guys have a common opponent. Judah fought both Kahn and Lucas. He lost to Kahn but beat Lucas. So based on that, if you say Kahn would beat Lucas because of his lost to Judah, it's a triangle theory.
Since Naseem fought neiter Broner or De Leon, it can't be considered an triangle theory. He's basically saying Naseem was a surperior fight ( whic he was in his prime) to De Leon who Broner struggled with.
I know what the **** a triangle theory is. Forget the Khan-Judah fight. I am saying Khan is a better fighter than Judah (which he is), forget that they fought, so he obviously beats Matthysse based on that moron's logic. Forget it I'm done the guy is an idiot.
And that's why your opinion is worthless, your analysis is completely nonsensical, and any garbage that comes out of your mouth is never to be taken seriously. To top it off you are so idiotic that you called my Khan/Judah/Lucas comparison a triangle theory, yet your Hamed/Ponce/Broner argument was not. What a dumb mother****er.
Let me try to explain what the other guy is saying.
A triangle theory only works if the guys have a common opponent. Judah fought both Kahn and Lucas. He lost to Kahn but beat Lucas. So based on that, if you say Kahn would beat Lucas because of his lost to Judah, it's a triangle theory.
Since Naseem fought neiter Broner or De Leon, it can't be considered an triangle theory. He's basically saying Naseem was a surperior fight ( whic he was in his prime) to De Leon who Broner struggled with.
and this is why you are a Broner fan boy. You got butthurt cuz I believe Naz would beat Broner, that's my opinion, you should try not getting your feelings hurt over someone else's opinion. I don't give a shyt if Broner was in his prime or not at 130. My opinion will always be that Naz beats him, prime or not.
And that's why your opinion is worthless, your analysis is completely nonsensical, and any garbage that comes out of your mouth is never to be taken seriously. To top it off you are so idiotic that you called my Khan/Judah/Lucas comparison a triangle theory, yet your Hamed/Ponce/Broner argument was not. What a dumb mother****er.
You were dropped on your head as a child weren't you?
Where's the triangle theory in "Hamed was an all around better fighter than Ponce is or ever will be so that's why I feel he would have beat Broner"?
Because BRONER HAS NOT EVEN HIT HIS PRIME. WHAT THE **** DOES PONCE HAVE TO DO WITH PRINCE HAMED? THEIR STYLES ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING SIMILAR. SO THE BRONER THAT GETS JUDGED IN FANTASY FIGHTS IS THE VERSION THAT FOUGHT PONCE? SO THAT MEANS THE LUCAS THAT GETS JUDGED IS THE ONE THAT LOST TO ZAB. YOU STUPID ****.
AND THEN HOW IS ME SAYING KHAN IS BETTER THAN ZAB EVER WAS SO HE BEATS LUCAS ANY DIFFERENT? YOU ARE A MOTHER ****IN FOOL. AS DUMB AS THEY COME. STOP POSTING AND GO READ A BOOK YOU DUMB PIECE OF ****
"Amir Khan is clearly a better fighter than Zab Judah, so he obviously beats Matthysse".
That came out of your mouth fan boy not mine.
You Brontards crack me up. Go listen to your Band Camp Cd and take your ass to sleep.
Hahaha THIS GUY!!
Once again...YOU SAID Hamed is clearly better than Ponce, so you feel he beats Broner.
I SAID Khan is clearly better than Judah, so I feel he beats Lucas.
THOSE ARE THE EXACT SAME. How is mine a triangle theory but yours is not? You are by far the biggest idiot I have ever seen on here. And your attempt to deflect the conversation into juvenile insults about band camp cds is slightly disturbing, are you a Band Camp fan?
"Do not argue with a fool, for the person watching cannot differentiate between the two"
I'm done.
Are you seriously this stupid or are you drunk? Who is backtracking? I quoted every one of your posts.
YOU SAID "Hamed is better than Ponce, so I feel he beats Broner"
I SAID "Khan is better than Judah, so I feel he beats Matthysse" (pure sarcasm pointing out how stupid your initial analysis was)
What is the difference there? Please point it out. Get some help man. And get some sleep.
That's what you call a triangle theory, only idiots such as yourself use them. I never once used a triangle theory.
This is coming from the guy that said Hamed is better than Ponce, so he beats Broner...I hope you are 16 or younger. Honestly.
Do you have a reading comprehension? I didn't use a triangle theory, I said that NAZ was an all around better fighter than Ponce and that's why I feel like he would have beat Broner. Does it really hurt your feelings that much when someone picks against Broner? :lol1: go to sleep fan boy, and don't forget your Band Camp blanky.
Right...and Amir Khan is clearly a better fighter than Zab Judah, so he obviously beats Matthysse. Clearly the Broner that fought Ponce is Broner at his best, he peaked at 20 years old, and clearly the Matthysse that fought Judah is as good as Lucas can be as well. Hahahaha. Do you think Ponce beats Broner at 135 right now? He gets starched inside 5. Would Judah beat Matthysse now? Same result, he gets stretchered out after a few rounds. You really are slow aren't you?
BTW, do you see a Broner av or sig? If anybody here is a fan boy, look no further than yourself. I feel sorry for you that you keep coming back for your beating. The other posters will get a laugh out of how bad I made you look, although to be fair you did most of the work, I just pointed out the obvious. Have a nice night.
Who said Matthysse looked like a world beater against Judah? You're an idiot, quit embarrassing yourself.
EXACTLY. Do you have reading comprehension? You are making an argument that Hamed would beat Broner because Broner didn't look good vs Ponce. A green, inexperienced Broner. I am showing you how idiotic that comparison is by simply comparing an inexperienced Matthysse's network debut vs. Judah, against Khan's Judah performance.
.....take this in really slowly......
The comparison is invalid, because you are cherry picking Broner's worst performance. If I was to compare the Broner vs. Demarco to Hamed, it's obvious Broner mops the floor with him. Just like if I was to compare the Matthysse that fought Peterson vs. the Khan that just fought....
So in short, I showed that your idiotic comparison is just that. Take it like a man, and keep it moving. By sitting here attempting to debate your own flawed logic you are only furthering your humiliation. Thanks.