Was this before or after Audley Harrison beat wilder up so bad in sparring that he ran off and was found in an alley drunk off whiskey???? Lol. These guys go all out with the bs to discredit wilder. Wanna show me he's hype??? Put aj in there with him to prove he's hype. Put David price in there with him. Put Haye in there with him. Let him give bellew a title shot. Let Ortiz old drug cheat a$$ pass a test. Then I'll believe he's hype. He's on record calling out everybody. Nobody is calling him out who isn't looking for a payday(bellew, mansour, Ortiz). Wilder has been after aj and fury for years. It's them who keep ducking him.
If wilder vs fury does 1m ppv buys.....hearn will have to beg wilder for a %. Canelo is called a ppv star but people don't seem to see that canelo was the only guy fighting ppv. With him on the app, wilder will become the new ppv king if he does 1m. He can then build to 50-0 as the lineal, wbc, and ppv champion. He has guys who can easily make a sellable fight to defend against like konacki, breazeale, ajagba, even Joyce can make his way across the pond. Meanwhile, aj can rematch whyte, big baby, and fight usyk while the public and every interviewer ask why he's ducking wilder. 1m ppv makes wilder the biggest star in boxing. Aj might have to settle for 70-30. Lol
What an exaggeration. He's fought only Luis Ortiz (who should be seen as lesser), and nobody else was anywhere near as good.
Not really. Wilder did beat nicolai firtha up for four rounds before knocking him out. That's gotta count in this conversation.
If Whyte wants a shot at wilder, then he has to take whatever wilder feels like giving him. Wilder should offer him 2m with 40% of the UK rights. You don't make an offer to the champ, and Eddie doesn't offer anything to a major player like haymon. You take what you get if you want the fight.
Isn't this what wilder asked for when Hearn started talking about this bum whyte??? Somehow it wasn't worth it. Now suddenly, it's all good. Hearn seems to have a problem with time frames. He's gone from having Joshua sign a contract after the deal was canceled to making an offer wilder asked for over a year ago to fight his flunkie. I guess next he's gonna get Riddick bowe to sign for that fight with Lennox Lewis. Now if he can only get biggie and 2pac to the table to end this east coast/west coast war..........
Hearn insisted: "We're not waiting for time-wasters; we understand if they lose we'll have to find another opponent, but if you win, we're not waiting until December.
HUH????? So why the hell does he have to sign now?
Lol. This guy Hearn is beyond retarded.
Yeah right, Joseph Parker = Snooze Fest
Parker vs Ruiz
Parker vs. Cojanu
Parker vs. Fury
Parker vs. Joshua
One thing all 4 of those fights have in common is that they were all boring and Joseph Parker fought in all of them.
Well......damn!!!!! Can't argue with this here. About time somebody said this out loud.
Haye reading this thread like...."Hey guys I'm gunna be there too"
Lol. Sitting next to audley Harrison to hype his big championship comeback against frank Bruno with Harrison vs Bruce seldon as the co main.
Wilder/Haymon and their crew have their judges and refs ready fury
You already proved no decision can be won over wilder, can you stop him as it’s your only way?
Winning 10 rounds was not enough last time as they robbed you
Since then wilder has ran for the hills. You chased him to America already
What did it cost ?
Lol. Fury ran from the rematch that should have happened last may 18th. Maybe what you meant to say is.... Ill finally accept a rematch with wilder in 2020.
Lol. Scary little punk. First off....helenius was just knocked out by a guy who just lost to wilder in a voluntary defense. It's obvious Hearn paid for that silver belt. Chisora at his best was far from world level. Isn't his best win a fast count victory over Malik Scott??? That brings us to Lucas Browne. Lol. Let's not even go there on some top level talk. Hearn is learning his lesson just like arum and de la hoya. Message is.......don't F^&#K wit al haymon. So now it's clear as day..... breazeale could fight for the mandatory spot. But he doesn't have too. If wilder vs Joshua isn't made, he gets a title shot. Whyte now has to prove he belongs with that spot and belt since he wants to talk about it so much. Beating up old names looking to cash out isn't gonna help his cause. Prove you belong and beat a guy we know is proven and deserves a chance at a second shot. The ball is in your court mr boogeyman. Lol
Wilder isn't pointing out anything other than his opinion of AJ begging for the fight.
You think AJ needs to mention Wilder's name to stay relevant? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You're beyond deluded and desperate. You just wish this was the case because you, Wilder and all his ****ed up fans have been bitter about being in AJ's shadow. Nothing has changed there. And neither will it. You stay being crazy though you complete dribbler. Haha.
Aj fans are starting to babble like babies now. Lol. Ranting like 5 year olds with hurt feelings.
As much as I like more boxing, there are clear favorites in each of these fights. The only way any of these b-sides win is by massive upset. The fights just aren't that compelling, especially the Garcia/Rios. Yeah, I'll probably watch these sparring sessions, but that's all they are.
I hear that. Especially when you got big time compelling 50/50 matches like matthysse vs kiram, Kovalev vs mikhailkin, and cuadras vs arroyo coming up on HBO. Then showtime has the nerve to tease us with meaningless fights like wilder vs Ortiz. I'm with you on this one. Who really cares about about an undefeated knock out artist defending his title against another undefeated slick boxer labeled the boogeyman of the division because nobody wants to fight him??? Horrible fights indeed. Lol
They are clearly afraid of wilder, and doing the best they can to duck him. First we had Hearn trying to sick bellew on wilder during aj vs Wladimir. Bellew did his part but let it be known he didn't want that work at all. This time he already has security to keep wilder away from aj, and he's gonna have Whyte trying to act a fool and promote a meaningless fight instead of any mention of aj vs wilder. We see through the game. Aj won't be ready to fight wilder this summer.....but he'll be ready to fight miller. We now know who's clearly ducking who and not trying to make the fight. Wilder is the clear champion now, and aj is nothing more than a belt holder hiding behind popularity.
Whyte has said repeatedly that he he would have no problem fighting a final eliminator if he was guaranteed Wilder, whether it's Ortiz or Breazeale.... the fact is Breazeale has jumped the queue, and that means if Wilder fights Breazeale next, guess how long Whyte has to wait? 1 year? 18 months?
The guy has been paying WBC sanctioning fees for 2 years, international champion, Silver champion, fights Chisora, Helenius, Browne.... Breazeale fights Molina and gets first dibs.
Corruption!
But.......when was he ever the mandatory??? Better yet, when has he ever fought for the mandatory spot??? Are we suppose to really believe a professional prize fighter who has been paying sactioning fees to the wbc silver belt didn't know that he was gonna have to fight an eliminator before he was the mandatory??? Lol. Yeah.....we get it now.
I watched the fight live but I don't remember the build up at all as I was pretty young at the time, couldn't find it later online either, you have a link?
Not off hand. Just look up Mayweather brings corralles wife to the ring. Should have the whole back story in that.
Signed what? Wilder sent an Email, nothing more. There's no contract to sign.
No. He sent an email to let Joshua and the world know that the offer sent from his team is there. He said to check Hearn and McCracken personally. Yet somehow were suppose to believe wilder sent this as a bs email and didn't have everything else in order. Now the most powerful broker in boxing who's put together the biggest fights in boxing history suddenly can't come up with 50m to guarantee the fight. Get outta here with the fan boy bs. You really look silly today.
GGG's last fight was trash too. No one said it wasn't. Manny at least fought known commodities like Mosley and Rios. This unknown guy could have been replaced by a lot of better opponents and you know it. To call this a great matchup is laughable
If I may interrupt........but Manny fought mosley after he was destroyed by Floyd, and had a draw with Sergio mora. On top of that, he ducked mosley after the cotto fight. Roach is even on record saying they would only fight him at 143 or 144 at that time. Yet you support that ppv???? Rios was considered a tune up for Manny. Just like this guy is to Ortiz. Remember, Manny was just knocked out his fight before. Just like Ortiz. So I guess my question is, how do you support a tune up being a ppv, yet have a problem with a tune up being a co feature to a unification between two undefeated champions???
Usyk gave up his belts. His status as super champ should be meaningless now. Remember andre ward had to give up his 168 belt before he moved up, then had to fight the #1 ranked wbo guy to make sure he could even get the kovalev fight??? At least make usyk fight whyte.
Of which he's had zero and was offered great money for another. Why not take it?
Maybe because it's a bs offer to keep wilder away from Joshua. Hearn gave Charles Martin 8m all together for aj to take the belt from him in England. So.....a guy who lucked up on a vacant title like Martin did deserved 8m to defend his title against aj, but a champion like wilder can only get 3m??? Why doesn't Hearn give him the 7 he asked for if he really wants the Whyte fight??? Unless somehow wilder is less of a champion than Martin was..... it's a bs deal and wilder is after aj first and foremost.
I'm still wanting to hear what was so horrible about Ortiz vs Allen that it costed him a shot at Joshua. But let's put this into perspective........ we just saw aj vs povetkin. Before that we saw povetkin almost punched through the ropes by price before stopping him. Yet somehow, people wanted to see him fight aj??? We saw aj vs Parker. Before that, we saw Parker literally stink out the joint vs hughie, go 12 rounds with a "bum" Ortiz just knocked out in 2 rounds, and win his belt on a split decision against a untested fighter that many thought won the fight. Yet everybody wanted to see aj vs parker??? No sense if going into takam, or Molina. Just a answer to those two would be good enough.
He gets disrespect because of the house painters, cab drivers and mechanics he's fought since then whilst everyone else has all fought a high level of opposition. Let's not gloss over that please.
Who exactly are you talking about??? Dawson was the lineal/wbc champ, cloud was the former ibf champ with only one loss on his record, bellew was the #1 contender and went on to become cruiserweight champ, fonfara was a solid contender fresh off of wins over campillio when he was still relevant, and g Johnson which was a slugfest, bika has fought a who's who of boxers without being stopped, tank was a ko puncher fresh off of knocking out Rodriguez..... what exactly is the complaint??? Sure those guys are no Cedric Agnew, or Blake caparillo, or mohammedi, or didn't bring the buzz like a Kovalev vs pascal 2..... but I wouldn't say those guys aren't high level competition. I almost forgot the highly ranked chilemba in that list of "top opposition" that Kovalev has been facing. Lol
Fight fans from the UK have to be the dumbest people on earth. Nothing wrong with supporting your guy. But to think the rest of the world is just as stupid as you guys is crazy. Where else in the world can a cruiserweight move up, get humiliated by the hw champ, blame his toe, not have a decent fight since 2012, and still be considered top tier??? Where else can a novice fighter make a huge ppv fight with a hype job simply because he beat him as an amateur??? Where else can an old, former champion on drugs talk his way into the imagination of fight fans to get a big shot while not doing anything significant his entire comeback??? Only in the UK. Lol. I'm gonna mow some lawns and bring the clippings to the UK. I'll tell them it's the best stuff in California, and I should be a millionaire in about a month. Lol
Name one fighter wilder knocked out with one punch. Yes u can't because he never did. Not even against hand picked bums on 5 days notice who didn't train.
Ortiz, stiverne, szpilka, liakhovich, price, firtha, Molina......the list goes on and on. Hopefully if aj stops ducking him, he can also be added to the list.
He's absolutely right. Somehow people forget that he was after a unification fight with Hopkins from the first day he beat Dawson. People also seem to forget HBO only wanted to give him 2.5m for three fights where showtime gave him b that just for fonfara and the option to unify with Hopkins. People also forget that Hopkins went back to HBO, and that scrapped the December card which would have also featured wilder vs stiverne. People also forget that Kovalev talked tough for over a year only to pull out of the purse bid days before it was set to happen. I never understood the disrespect that he gets for things that weren't even his fault.
So charlo is the one who needs to fight better competition according to these guys. So I guess.....he needs to fight stevens, so everyone can say it means nothing since Stevens has been knocked out several times. Or he needs to fight lemeiux, so everyone can say it means nothing since ggg beat him and bjs exposed him as a walking punching bag. Or maybe he can fight Martin Murray. Then everyone can complain how Murray has no power and has never won a step up fight. Maybe sulecki. Afterwards everyone can cry and ask who is sulecki anyway other than the guy who Jacobs beat. Anything except demanding canelo or ggg to actually step up and fight this guy. Lol.
Oh come on Whyte deserves a shot..
He fought Parker that's actually pretty impressive to get to a shot, Wilder fought Jason Gavern to get his.
Ortiz beat Daniel Martz before that it was Dave Allen !!!
Fury fought Francesco Pianeta this time , Christian Hammer last time.
Whyte beating Parker is definitely worth a title shot based on what every other heavyweights done basically. You just don't like Whyte (which is understandable) but he has actually done more to deserve a shot than any recent heavyweight I can think of.
He fought Parker to avoid a Ortiz. Which was a mandated fight that would have actually made him mandatory. Wilder fought gavern as a stay busy fight on 2 weeks notice while he was already mandatory. Ortiz was a voluntary defense. So like wilder said, he blessed him with the title shot. Fury was already the wbo mandatory when he fought hammer. This time it's a voluntary fight. Again....wilder blessed him with a title shot. Whyte needs to made mandatory by fighting an eliminator.
Also give him rounds 13, 14, 17, 21, 47 and 96 while you're at it.
No need. He didn't fight all those extra rounds. But he did fight the 12 I mentioned, and he DID win those rounds. I see you can't dispute that. It's funny how all you guys who love to watch fights in slow motion haven't watched that one and saw how clear of a robbery it was.
You’re wrong. But I can tell you’re extremely ignorant. Do your Google’s and then apologise after.
Regards
Am i????? Then tell us......when did stiverne fight Austin for the silver title???