If you think Winky can TKO Tito you guys must be on dope. Tito will figure Pinky before the 8th round and send him to sleep. If you doubt Tito's power just review the joppy fight and look at his face after being hit by a moving train.
Local newspapers in PR informed that although the organization did not ordered a rematch for CHop that's the fight is going to happen. Apparently the deal is almost done.
As far as Hopkins, he clearly beat Tito, but for us Tito fans, he did not fight the way we think he normally does, not to take away from Hopkins who did his homework and fought the perfect fight but a rematch will clear in our minds that either it was a combination of a perfect night for Hopkins and a bad night for Tito or that Hopkins style is just too much for Tito. I say again if Hopkins is so superior then the rematch is a nobrainer because of all the money involved.
Morales been robbed before like in morales-barrera II but didn't cry.
“Yo sé que es un guerrero,” dijo Morales (47-2, 34 nocauts). “Las personas de su país son muy valientes. Pero un mexicano nunca echa para atrás. Nosotros vamos a estar al frente de él toda la noche.” Morales on tonight fight
(now for the benefit of the non-spanish speakers) "I know he is a warrior and the people of his country are brave. But a Mexican never retreats and we are going to be in front of him all night" (my translation)
that's a warrior!!! Go Morales
He's got to fight so soon that I guess they don't have the time to negotiate with someonelse. I don't know why but even before he fought chop he was going to fight 3 months after but the opponent had not been selected, and because all the complaints about how unfair the fight was (the weight advantange, the referee stop, the almost tko in the 3rd round) they chose to fight chop. Then, in boxing anything can change from one day to the other, but the newspaper posted that the chop rematch was secured.
I've heard that there are what you could say are different approaches to scoring a fight, couln't Congress do something to regulate it like baseball? or is there an organization that already does? WOuld increasing the quantity of judges, lets say 5 fix the problem?
I'm tired of excuses like winky is not a worthy opponent for tito because he is coming up in weight, but then Tito's done the same several times and didn't use that as an excuse for a bad performance. winky is a good fighter, so good that most people on this site gives him a spot on the PPP list. So no excuses if tito wins and no excuses if doesn't. The admirable thing about Tito is that he will accept the challenge.
Tito's retirement would put him plus his loss to hopkins places him 10th but when he defeats Winky and then may be Hopkins the list will change dramatically IMO.
Why is his camp avoiding Harris?
Harris is not mentioned by the newspaper, and I don't know if they are avoiding him but I read that Harris would not be available for the timeframe they have the fight schedules. This could be an excuse but from what I read about Harris hes got a big mouth. Time will tell.
tito retired after getting his ass kicked by hopkins. whats was his reason for retiring? i think he retired like a little bitch! now he wants to come back and challange a much older hopkins. i still think hopkins would whoop his ass though. and yeah winky should be higher in p4p because he has been active and beating good fighters
That much older Hopkins, and by older I think you mean worse fighter, destroyed DLH much faster than what it took to beat Tito and this was not too long ago. tito retired because the fighters that he wanted to fight made themselves unavailable, like some are doing right now. I've said before that Hopkins then should retire with an easy fight against Tito in which he will make more money than he has ever made before.
Agreed, this is by far the best break down analysis of this fight. I love Bert Sugar...that 'ol fart. GO WINKY
I saw you rooting for Ruiz on another thread and now you turn and root for the loser. HaHa. Anyway, this analysis is a great summary of what everybody been saying. I sure hope the fight turns out to be exciting and not a puncher running after the boxer.
I guess DLH loss to Hopkins is more shameful since Hopkins was older. Tito's unidimensional style is easy to figure, that's why his record is 42-1 with 35 ko.
IMO Tito will win by TKO in the late rounds (8 +). Winky can block with the gloves but Tito's punches are going to start to go thru Winki's gloves causing the damage that ultimately will result in Tito's victory. Tito's condition is going to be key since he gets better as the fight gets into the later rounds.
I love Fernando Vargas the fighter and have a lot of respect for him because of his heart, as he demonstrated what a true warrior is when he faced trinidad, but this poem/song sucks. The lyrics represents his feelings about his father and family but then, write a letter or something but don't butcher singing like that. It felt like when Chevy, an actor from Puerto Rico, with no singing skills sang PR National Anthem on a Macho CAmacho's fight, embarrasing.
I just tryin to find the article that you just posted. I've hard that argument before and it was spread by this young fella from MAGBOX web site. Several pros conclude that you can put all the tape you want and it will not increase your power. Also, and I think it is mentioned in the article Tito keeps his wrapping after the fights so wouldn't he remove it ASAP if there was something to hide.
No surprises other than this being a PPV fight. Did anybody knew that Barrera is from an accomodated family and was studying to be a lawyer. I guess he went for the easier career of the two, less blood.
At first I thought Tito was gonna blow him out of the water since Winky said that he wasn't going to run. You don't stand in front of Tito and Winky knows that so I'm sure he'll use his feet. Papa Trinidad then said that they weren't going to focus on Winky's weakneses but rather explore Tito's full potential which I find is ludacrous. I think they're overlooking Winky's skill and just thought (like I did) that Winky would stand there and trade, which would not be the case. I don't even know who to pick anymore but Winky pulling an upset don't sound retarded.
This is one of the things that I don't like about Team Trinidad. They keep saying and have done so in the past training around Tito's potential. All fighters train for a specific opponenent. Each fighter has a particular style and the smart thing IMO is to use your potential against the opponents weaknesses. If Tito's camp did not do their homework they are in for an unpleasant surprise. Just like they underestimated Hopkins.
Winky sure has the tools to take Tito for a long ride and repeat the bluerprint attempted by DLH, consumated by Hopkins. Nonetheless, IMO Winky does not have the power to make Tito back up. Without that, Tito will not respect him and launch at will. Winky is going to get tired and Tito is going to get better and more accurate as the rounds come. Tito by TKO or decision.
I think the story will be like, but Winky was coming up in weight, that's why Tito beat him. Ronald Winky is just Tito's next victim. And a guy who can not stand to be called by his name doesn't have the heart to withstand Tito's demolishing power, it takes a warrior. That's why Hopkins succeded and chiken DLH didn't.
Tszyu should be victorious all his experience and power should be decisive. Nonetheless, Hatton is good and likeable, plus the underdog, I've always like the underdog. We will see soon.
I agree that Tito is a great fighter and hall of famer and that he shouldn't be judged for his two loses. But I was dissappointed in the way he lost. He was punching bag and gave Winky not more than a sparring session. Chuchazo has an article in El Nuevo Dia that sums very well the tragedy. How can a pro fighter not be able to overcome the most basic punch in boxing, the jab? How can a corner not give meaninfull instructions to that fighter? How can a fighter that normaly fights for his country, not for the money, launch so little punches when he is losing?
Trinidad vs Hopkins
Trinidad vs DLH
Trinidad vs Vargas
Trinidad vs Winky
Hopkins did a great job in confusing Tito and not by power but because of all the damage sustained after 12 rounds of getting punched TKO him. Tito IMO would have been able to continue and lose by UD but Trinidad teh Dad not the trainer stopped it. DLH was the one who almost executed what a lot of boxers, not punchers, had tried, Tito got frustrated because this was his shot at glory and the hype was that it would be the fight of the millenium, Tito was up to it, DLH just for the money, not the pride. Against Vargas because it has to mess your mind that after you destroy a guy in the first round he comes back and almost does the same to you, but Tito was patient and KO came. Winky has the skills to 3Peat DLH, Hopkins, we will see.