I'd like to add:
I did not even include other handicaps like Pacquiao's coming off a 2-year layoff "WITHOUT ANY TUNE-UP", so an absolute Killah like Errol is going to be his tune-up that's laughable really, stuffs like that just further reduce the odds of him winning.
I look at the overall encompassing handicap that Pacquiao has in this fight and I will go so far that this is the MOST impossible task a fighter has ever done in boxing. Why? Because he's not even a George Foreman who actually has a puncher's chance---This 42 years old Pacquiao has literally no puncher's chance against Errol Spence who has a granite chin--known as a Terminator---an unstoppable machine. What that means is that if Pacquiao was to win, he has to do it with sheer skill, will and some prayers to God.
Oddsmakers stated that Pacquiao has only a measly 22% chance to win. I will go so far as Pacquiao has zero chance to win---There is absolutely no chance whatsoever. He can't even influence anything here even if he is the a-side. Why? Because Errol is backed up up by a powerful promoter and Manny is more like an independent fighter now. Powerful promoters have a direct access to corrupt judges, referees, medias so on so forth. So REALLY there's nothing good going on with Manny here but pain--He's practically has to dig his own grave by his own hands.
I agree that Spence will win but I don't agree with everything you posted. So I can't check I agree
That's cool. You can state your own opinion. I respect all opinions. I'm just conducting my own survey.
I'll say, Donaire might have one of the vicious left hooks next to Tito Trinidad. If only he fought more on HBO, we would hear more about that.
It has surprising awesome power rarely seen at this weight! He could do it. He might beat Inoue with that crazy punch if they meet again, the way he throws it and the way Inoue want to exchange with you. It will hit again. It's like lightning.
CNN has also bowed down to Logan Paul and accepted that boxing will no longer be the same and it might never be for a long time.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/sport/floyd-mayweather-logan-paul-boxing-match-cmd-spt-intl/index.html
"If boxing was run then like it is today, Marvin Hagler would probably never have fought Tommy Hearns, or if they fought, maybe after both were out of their primes," said Silver, who also wrote "The Night the Referee Hit Back" and "Stars in the Ring: Jewish Champions in the Golden Age of Boxing".
"We probably would never have seen Alexis Arguello against Aaron Pryor. But we probably would not have seen Sugar Ray Leonard against Roberto Duran. These are fights that made boxing history and make boxing what it was. And the chances are, we might never have seen Frazier versus Ali. It's the utter greed has overtaken the sport and the disrespect for the fan."
Floyd should probably stick to fighting smaller guys like Tenshin Nasukawa in his next exhibition fights because he's not good at fighting forward, doesn't know how to cut off the ring, doesn't know how to slip and counter against bigger man like Pacquiao, his pull counter isn't effective against bigger guys because it ends up short. In his next fights he needs to be the bigger man "always" so then he can knock out the smaller guy.
That's probably what's going to happen in his future exhibition matches. Floyd needs to fight smaller men specifically with much shorter reach than him so that he could look good again.
His performance in this fight probably took many millions in his future exhibition fights because Floyd didn't look good at all. The loss of profit for his future exhibition fights based on this bad performance could be 50-75% of what he was doing now. It really hurt him from the business perspective going forward. Mayweather contemplating on ending his exhibition journey is not out of the question now. Specially if showtime or other sponsors will no longer shell huge money for him to fight smaller much more inferior fighters. Showtime wants Jake Paul for him after the Woodley fight I don't think Floyd will do that now.
I have a feeling that this year could be remembered as the passing of the torch year where Floyd passed the Torch to Logan Paul and Manny is who is about to pass his to Errol Spence.
You guys are the ones whining like f@gs. I don’t like what’s happening. However, I actually watch real boxing .
Some of you don’t. All you do is b-tch and moan.
Recently, the espn card (navarette) and the 2 pbc cards were all great. None of them did well ratings wise. Fans need to tune in to these kind of fights.
Fans also used to watch the Tuesday and Friday minor cards on USA, espn2 etc. they don’t do that anymore.
So my point is instead of whining, support the sport when it’s on TV and maybe things will change.
That's me I watch all boxing whether it's small or big events. You on the other hand just whine here like a f@g. All you do is stay in this forum forever and whine like f@g. Look at your number of posts, you whine all day like a f@g man.
If the heavyweights get involved then someones going to die.
No joke. If money is really good anything can happen. What you said is not out of the realm of possibility.
This one is from CNN recently. To each his own, whether you like what's happening today or not, that's up to you as a boxing fan. You don't need to whine like a f@g every time people share their opinion because you can't control what everyone's thinking.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/s...ntl/index.html
"If boxing was run then like it is today, Marvin Hagler would probably never have fought Tommy Hearns, or if they fought, maybe after both were out of their primes," said Silver, who also wrote "The Night the Referee Hit Back" and "Stars in the Ring: Jewish Champions in the Golden Age of Boxing".
"We probably would never have seen Alexis Arguello against Aaron Pryor. But we probably would not have seen Sugar Ray Leonard against Roberto Duran. These are fights that made boxing history and make boxing what it was. And the chances are, we might never have seen Frazier versus Ali. It's the utter greed has overtaken the sport and the disrespect for the fan."
All you guys whining in this thread are the f-cking problem.
A fight gets announced- you guys piss on it. You don’t tune in. You complain about boxers. Then you log in and whine when networks invest in garbage ass exhibitions because casual fans buy them and they’re profitable.
Going forward, I suggest some of you whiny f@gg0ts start actually supporting the cards that come on TV. Maybe some of you hoes will turn on a shobox card or other cards with young fighters.
Maybe you guys will start supporting real boxing rather than crapping on it and running here to whine together.
If you want to fix things, start by looking in the mirror.
We would have seen Michael Jackson vs Prince and Madonna vs Cyndi Lauper instead.
lmao true. I think the next big one for youtubers is probably after the Floyd vs Logan PPV is released and it's really good then I'm guessing Pacquiao might fight Logan next.
The moment Floyd signed to fight this kid he helped legitimise these YouTube clowns. F*** Floyd for disparaging the sport that made him like that.
That's true. He did helped legitimized them and it looked like they are here to stay now for god know how many years.
Pacquiao double-crossed Bob lmao. I didn't know Manny was a gangster back in the day.
If I remember correctly, Bob said it was more out of ignorance because Pac was at that time still illiterate, he thought he could accept any money.
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I recently stumbled upon their bio and found out that Inoue and Pacquiao is exactly identical in physical dimension. Inoue has even a slightly longer reach than Pacquiao which was shocking and astonishing. I really thought in my mind Pacquiao was supposed to be way longer and bigger.
Should Inoue pursue the same path as Pacquiao into superstardom? I mean who else is there for him at the lower weights? Casimero no longer has a title, as for the rest, he would beat them up like a pulp.
This was the same case with Manny Pacquiao back in 2008 after he finally completed full circle and beaten Three(3) of the Greatest fighters of that era in Erik Morales (trilogy), Marco Antonio Barrera (2), Juan Manuel Marquez (2) at this point there was nothing left for Manny, he already beat the best of the very best in that weight division.
After 2008 Manny Pacquaio was already a living legend. What else is there for him to accomplish? That's when the sadistic Bob Arum convinced Pacquiao to start going up in weights fighting David diaz, Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, Cotto, Clottey, Shane Mosley, Margarito etc.. etc.. No Tuneups for Pacquiao, it was as if Bob Arum was a racist Asian hater who wants Pacquiao dead at this point. He wanted Manny to keep on going and fight this giant, massive, bigger--longer guys non-stop. it was shocking really. You think Bob can do this kind of abuse to Americans? Hell NO WAY.
But Inoue is Asian and just like Pacquiao, he may have the option to get this Death March from Bob Arum.
The guy has a point, Arum may have wanted to kill Pac at one point haha, maybe not because he's an asian hater, but because we remember that Manny double crossed Bob years ago by signing on both Golden Boy while he already signed in Top Rank, we know that Bob father has a vengeful soul.
Think about this, Arum let the former Flyweight clean up the Welterweights in that era---Imagine a former flyweight who ended up fighting the most welterweights. Just because Manny emerged triumphant in the end doesn't mean Arum is not a scum for doing this ridiculous suicidal task to him. He might have died in there against these massive welters, that's like his 9th weight division for christ's sakes, what is this 1930's?
Probably not 10 or 15 lbs heavier.
it's something like:
Usyk first fight 215 lbs.
Usyk second fight 221+ lbs.
He has added weight in this second fight.
Bro 215 was Usyk's first weight entry in heavyweight against Witherspoon, against Joshua in the first fight, he was 221 1/4 lbs, then in second fight he was 221 1/2 lbs. So technically you're correct that he was heavier in the first fight, but not by much.
We've tried the other way it didn't work, maybe if people stops giving them attention, they'd realize it's time to make the actual fight. They were trying to follow a Pacquiao / Mayweather marination blueprint in a wrong way, Pacquiao was actually more active and fighting great fighters while the fight was marinating.
If they don't have access to great fighters, then they should create rivalry, to be honest, they should have been fighting as a trilogy already like GGG vs Canelo on September.
Give him a bit of time to get bored and he might return to boxing.
He probably saw Canelo just failed on his 4th different weight attempt. Amanda Serrano almost got to her 8th.
Pacquiao is still far and away the king of weight climbing P4P. A daredevil of 10 different weight divisions, winning 8 in the process, 5 of which are lineal and then chose to stay at his 9th division till he retired. He's the epic of all epic, a combination of Michael Jordan and Lebron James of boxing---He had the most accomplishments and had the longest sustained greatness, we still remember the epic wars he waged from the lower weights to the time he became the oldest welterweight champion in boxing history, he was supposed to be so worn out and yet he outlasted them All. He had so much energy left that he even ran for President lmao
Remember when he was a Senator, every time there's a recess and he got bored, he went right back at boxing. Imagine with his free time now.