Some degenerate Wilder fans actually try to tell us that Ortiz was such a gifted amateur and when you actually check out his amateur record you realize he was pretty much garbage.
Ortiz lost 7 times to Odlanier Solis in the amateurs and never won a meaningful title.
In the pros he has a record of 0-1 vs former or current champions.
Also Ortiz is fat, very old, has very high blood pressure and is barely medically fit to compete.
You are a ******. Wilder fans and ortiz fans are not mutually exclusive. Lots of pros had crappy amateur records. Ortiz barely lost any rounds as a pro, his skills are undeniable no matter who he faced. We can play who he fought game with anyone, even ruiz who is fighting aj on sat
Pbc / beyonce shills: its the damn ticket brokers! Goes on to try explain dazn failure not knowing dazn's model. Throws in obligatory 'idiots' to convince himself he knows what he is talking about.
I go off what i see on pbc channels, and its desperation. 100 videos a day on this fight, never seen this level of promotion. It's a flop for sure
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The opponent is Gamaliel Diaz, so I think the prospect might be Christian "Chimpa" Gonzalez:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/661615
It is! Thanks man. He has 4 losses, 1 to romero duno and 3 to 2 guys with a few losses themselves. He had that look of something special for some reason, guess he was a prospect years back. Thanks
I hope we get this fight and Spence Ugas, and the winners unify for all 4 belts. That would be sick. Boxing is in shambles right now. Fans are like junkies waiting for a fix.
Ryan needs to fight Tank and leave Manny alone, Manny will end his career
What about a an elite boxer vs a footballer ?
You cry a lot for someone being around the sport a short time.
What footballer? I’ve been around boxing long enough, go back under your bridge troll. Floyd is making a mockery of the sport and fighters today avoid each other, all facts
Fury is talented. Wilder is the most overrated and untalented boxer in history, in any division not just HW. Having said that, AJ has the best resume and experience at HW right now, and I think everyone is seriously underestimating him because of his banana skin slip with Ruiz. AJ is very talented and versatile, he is not just a come forward bodybuilder slugger like most haters believe. Will be a good fight, but everyone acting like fury will steamroll AJ is delusional imo.
Floyd disgusts me, making a mockery of the sport. ‘Even ali did it’ that was a REAL exhibition, a boxer vs a wrestler. Boxers should box, the only exhibition boxing matches should be between politicians and old white collar fks for charity.
Floyd is lauded by a lot of newgen young boxers, the same guy who ruined our sport with his protect your 0 and milk the fights mentality. Boxing is in shambles, no one fights anyone these days and we the fans are like junkies waiting for a fix, for a good matchup once every 2 to 3 years. Disgusting and sickening.... we should boycott boxing as a whole and teach these boxers and promoters a lesson. Fight each other like in the ufc or no one will pay for ppv, live gate and subs.
Ppl who see through fraudster's bs: (ducked charles martin, wlad, parker, povetkin, and whyte. The same guys who are all on ajs resume without much drama. the same man who admitted himself he can run from dillian whyte for as long as he wants, made the ldbc trolls tear their hair out on that one trying to come to his defense) Logical arguments, comparison of opponents and resume of aj, and common sense.
Beyonce fans: pull the occasional racecard and angrily call you a hater and a casual with no sensible rebuttal.
I still give ortiz a chance and oh how i wish his cherry pick blows up in his face! No more 'one champion one face one name' Does he think i am an idiot like his fans and cannot see through his obvious crystal clear smelly bs?
Cry cry cry. Can't handle the fact the best heavyweight is black eh? :owned: Maybe if you weren't a bigot you wouldn't care about color. Enjoy the sport for crying out loud.
You got some deep insecurities mate
There it is! Didn't take him long! Racecard! Doesn't know me, automatically assumes I am a racist! Must be why i like adesanya, aj, ortiz, tyson, moorer, ibeabuchi, marvin johnson etc.
I don't like wilder because I don't like wilder because he is a fraud, ever cross your mind someone can not like someone for reasons other than color? Not to a REAL racist like you! With such a narrow worldview concoted by your own self-pity and victimisation tendecies!
You racebaiters are mentally sick and need help.
Get ready fight fans. Hate it or love it, this is the year of the Bronze Bomber. Nothing, no man, no fan is going to stop this man. This is a truly special American heavyweight that should have received much more support from retired American champs but these old guys are too busy kissing AJ's ass. I grew up watching Mike Tyson and I'm very disappointed that he shows Wilder no support whatsoever. Tyson was being mocked the same way just without social media as a platform. Wilder reads all of the garbage said online about him and he uses it as motivation to get better and better. I stand by my countrymen as our cousins across the pond like to say.
Or maybe tyson knows deontay is garbage? Ever thought of it? Losing so badly on the scorecards vs szpilka and gerald before landing the hail mary right hand .... then talking about angles speed movement and skills. Lol patheticccccc
Whats the big fuss re. Chisora rematch? Its rly not so demanded, it was a brawl with no skill! Real fans want ortiz and whyte, or ortiz parker etc... those kind of fights! Duuh!
And the 6000yo jokes are getting old, he looks 25yo in his amateur days on youtube. That was 2004 so he is indeed 38yo. Just drop the lame grandpa jokes 😤
If he is so old why no one fight him?
It would be a shame for him to take his ball and go home after losing 1 fight. So what, you lost a fight. What makes a man is how he recovers when he falls. No one is going 50-0 unless you are like Mayweather and dodge fights. Mayweather never held every belt in one division which is why his 50-0 is nothing but a *50-0.
Well said about mayweather! Also, he was the one who said he is a warrior, a monster, a killer etc .... and then is mentally broken after 1 fight, Shows how fake his confidence was and how he was trying to shove down our throats something he didn't even believe in himself. Make believe at the highest level. I'm so glad he stopped yapping and running his mouth, was annoying as hell. All his pathetic excuses how what kind of a man with a loser mentality he really is. Can't even take a loss like a man without making tons of excuses. Being surrounded by yesmen and leeches tends to do that to ya.
Everytime LIllian Shyte has to mention a shortlist of opponents it has to include Ortiz, but we all well know he won’t fight him. Ortiz even at 2000yo would mop the floor with chinny shyte
You are aware this past time Ortiz got caught wasn't the only time he has been caught right, it wasn't just this blood pressure medication crap, he has been caught before for PEDs. I get it you just don't like Wilder which is why you wrote all that crap accusing him when he is the one passing tests. You're bias is showing bro :lol1:
Yeah that was 2014 dude welcome to 2018. "Your bias" not "you're bias" ... bloody 12yo windmill beyonce fangirls, stay in school and learn somethin ya brat!!!!
Boxing is soo full of low life opportunists!!
Hearn should be the last person talking about Wilder missing any boat!!!
He is beginning to strike me as someone worse than Don King!!!
Its just the fickle nature of boxing fans that when a man who has been knocking out opponents to Kingdom Come finally loses everybody and their dog is relentless in their criticism of Wilder.
Most if not all ( including HEARN) gave Fury any chance of lasting the distance let alone win against Wilder in their first fight.
Now all of a sudden Wilder was never good all along!!!
Interesting how a fighter most wanted to see lose finally loses.
Advice to Hearn, seize this Don Kingesq opportunity to make that $$$$ between Fury v Joshua ASAP otherwise Wilder will mess those plans up.
I have no doubt about that.
Wilder is not going any where. Wilder will be back. Knocking people out as he did before.
Not much of a betting man but i am going to say this. I will put my money on Wilder if we do get to see the 3rd fight.
You're funny asf! Wilder's next fight will be against his costume, THAT BUM. It was always he who ducked AJ, you have to have super rose tinted glasses not to see it. Even ducked parker when he was wbo champ .... an iron chin with good pop and movement is a nightmare for wilder.
He sucks and has been exposed, is finished and will retire like nas did. Get over it, beyonce wilder fangirls and nuthuggers
I fully expect the young lad to dish out a career ending beating to Joshua.....prepare for mass suicides among the Eddie Hearn casual population
Lolololol good one man. I don't think andy will win at all and think you so wrong but man that was a funny picture. Good one
How are you going to call the champion a can and say he’s not a top 10 heavyweight? He beat Stiverne for the title by decision then rematched him and Knocked him TF out! Some people really DKSAB!
LOL stivernes a joke, i think its you who dksab .... facepalm
Around that time he fought his way up the rankings to fight Arreola, I was a big fan of Arreola and Stiverne earned my respect and then by taking Wilder to a decision also cemented he was legit, until the rematch!
But tell me this, if Stiverne wasn’t a top 10 then name me who was top 10 or 20 that you think were ranked ahead of Stiverne at that given time?
Go away, troll. I don't remember who was better than stiverne at the time and I can mention tons of better fighters than him now, but even if he was no 1 back then, he was still rubbish. Just goes to show how weak the division was. Stiverne is and always was utter garbage. The fact wilder went 12 with him shows how bad he is and how overrated his power is. At the highest level against fury his power didn't do anything, he took a beating. Bum.
The hate for ortiz continues. I love it. I love reading how he should fight someone when whyte, miller, joyce and all constantly use his name for exposure and then go silent when a call is made. This is a decent fight. Would prefer he fought a helenius, ustinov, breazeale, wach, washington, or dimitrenko as aj fury and wilder, his goals, are tall fighters, but w/e. Props to hammer for having the cojones to be the slaughtering lamb. Dimitrenko already ducked him in 2016 anyways
Luis Prehistoric Ortiz lol
Nah, he's in great shape for his age. Time will tell with who he fights next after this.
He is in great shape no doubt. But you are only saying that to justify wilder recycling someone he already ko'd and is at the end of the day, 40 yo. Wilder has reached pathetic levels of duckery, from whyte to 120mln on dazn. It is sad. Go on, pull your racecard. Hey, got no comeback? Pull a racecard!!
Spence will get murdered by canelo, but heck even i would choose a beating of that calibre for a lifetime payday. First he tells bud get a belt, then he gets the wbo and starts running. Spence so overrated foh
Who cares? The vain midget will do anything for attention. 'Look i bought a watch, look 10mln in cash, look im taking the worlds first ever goldplated poop.' Just fk off already. He is so angry he never had a foty or fotd award, and it burns him that all the greats always put him behind ali. What a man ali was compared to this mental and physical midget. That is what you get for being a twat all your career.
As for the news itself? Thank god, as long as him and klitschko never come back.
Joyces slimey bigmouth sleazey manager weirdo said ortiz signed on to hammer before they went to stiverne and then abel came out for the second time in a year saying he rejected the ortiz fight! LOL and y'all say hes a 100yo and yet they all runnin scared!!!! Most avoided hw ever period.... and even lennox lewis who is in the know said it! How stupid some of u gotta be to question lewis? My god
Nobody has a sh !tter resume than oap ortiz. His best win is bryant jennings. Id post a bunch of smilies now but cant be arsed. Much the same as ortiz' career.
Wilder is his only loss, and he gave him hell, he has kod practically everyone he faced, and jennings is a solid top ten and great contender who not even wlad could ko. Ortiz is top5 hw and you can all go to hell with your pathetic excuses. No one has worse resume than wilder anyways, but hes the champ and revered as a god