it is dis.advatage to margo. it would be shameful to lose to a small guy but would not get the credit if he will win because he is a way bigger thus he is supposed to win...
i think this is one of the reason why floyd does not want to fight pac as well...
Marg is the underdog, which means the masses think he will lose, if he wins it'll be an upset, regardless if he weighs 20lbs heavier
time will tell, khan's defense weren't anygood before roach, now he is a lot better..
I got all my points on khan if anyone wants to take the bets, pm me
pacquiao is too damn polite, he really doesn't take anything personal, thats why i think he's going to f*k up margarito, because for him its strictly business and when you leave your emotions aside you're more useful...
very nice thread, green K (if that means anything when im red)
the man is a welterweight but been draining him self...i think he's going to be pushed to hit 151 against Marg, he'll still be around the same weight...pacman truly is a great
I'm sure this thread will shift to peds and test and negotiation lies somewhere along the way.
This is why the dude is accused of peds, ppl fail to see that this brawler is build for KO'in other fighters.
The angles, speed, balance, hard training (I bet ariza has PAC doing sh*t loads of isometrics/strength training to avoid bulking up too much)..not to mention he was draining himself for years, now he's up to his normal weight around welter he has his true power, whereas before he was fighting at a disadvantage..peds got nothing to do with pac
Very interesting, it makes sense.
However assuming Margarito fights tall, do you think height will dissipate some of the "force". I say that because punching in a manner that is not leveled (upward) or in a "straight line" is not as powerful as let’s say a straight punch.
For example, if I were to push myself off the floor with my arms, I’d be more effective perpendicular to the floor kind of like a upside down "T". However if I were to push myself with my arms slightly higher than my shoulders, I'd be less effective with more energy spent and less leverage.
Cool.
Gd point, that will definately take some of the power off..although team pac may have prepared for this
i think mayweather may have a better chance, as pac was definately in danger last night...BUT...pac's game plan would be completely different if they fought, roach would have atleast 3 game plans to bring mayweather out of his shell and not let may get away with points early..THIS would be an excellent fight as I'd like to see how Mayweather supresses pac's onslaught if he can
Absolutely. And he would not even acknowledge that he went easy "to spare him" when asked in the post fight interview. More class than most.
very true, class act man
This guy claims he is amazing, this & that, take a look at his padwork & give your opinions... Being as honest as you like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfOYlJ1RQE
maybe not amazing, but i didn't think he was too bad..i've had worst padwork partners
Gamboa
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/attachments/tbcb-photos/115496d1200766972-fighters-debuting-2000-2009-gamboa_yuriorkis.jpg
Tyson
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lfch7fm5HMs/TFy5hGq30zI/AAAAAAAAAXE/P2rZHK3vUlU/s1600/mike-tyson.jpg
Gamboa
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2009/10/gamboa-200t.jpg
Tyson
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kZsRQo4QzoY/SAKs7K8SgPI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/KMToMXYRDfo/s400/tyson_money.jpg
It's not u man I was thinking the same thing
I give it to Bam Bam. Maidana's weakness is when u meat him on the inside (assuming u have either the speed or power to make him cover up). His punches r always wide and looping, and he catches u when u try to get away from him, which gives him room to land his shots. That's why he always hits his opponents behind the head whenever they're on the inside, he doesn't know how to shorten them up and generate power at the same time.
Bam Bam would massacre him on the inside, and I can't think of any reason he'd have to back up, and inadvertently give Maidana room to swing
Gd point, it would be whether rios has the chin to stay in proximity of maidana, maidana would probably knocked down a few times too but just keep coming...
this would be a great fight, khan was 150 (if i remember) against judah and carried his speed well along with a sizeable presence.
Against Ortiz he'd need that presence, and along with this speed would make a really good fight against Ortiz's aggressive style.
i dont like 2 knock a fighter 4 quiting when my fav has done the same b4 but this was on a different level. it was kinda pathetic. not 1x did alexander tell the ref or the doc that he wanted 2 continue. he just stood there waiting 4 them 2 call an end 2 the fight.
agreed, boxing's a tough game but as a PROFESSIONAL you shouldn't quit like that..
I hope you are not talking about Cotto quitting? Cotto is my favorite boxer ever and he never quit got beat by a cheat in Margarito and was simply beat by a better fighter in Pacquiao. He is the only fighter of this generation to never back down from the best and always fight the most dangerous and toughest opponents. Cotto is the most courageous fighter of his generation.
agreed, he got beaten up twice and still coming in strong...infact he might even fight the two guys that BEAT HIM UP again...now thats courage!
respect :boxing:
Jmm has much more heart and his accuracy is Excellent, dunno if he'll stop rios as he has a tuff chin n heart but jmm will box him up pretty good, UD jmm
yes great fight, im a pac fan but morales gave pac a boxing lesson in that fight...he even switched southpaw and played with pac if i remember correctly??
This game (from demo alone) is greatly improved to fn4, if you can't tell the subtle differences then u just don't watch or do boxing u just see a couple of blokes slugging.
i actually think decision to pac, naz was too bendy and all over the place to be KO'd and i dont think he's be able to KO pac due to pac's heart...
wud've been a good fight though
I don't think it was mosleys stamina but the frustration and his heart wad goin that made him fatigued, he had NO answers for floyd
once floyd beat him to the jab and countered the jab mosley was afraid to throw
I can see PAC has some skills that may trouble mayweather if he gets in early like shane did to get floyd more aggressive, but floyd.... Boy oh boy he's one smart mutherfuka he shuts u down mentally then goes after ur body..
As of this moment Pac is prob the ONLY fighter than has any chance against floyd IMO