I did mention Barrera, I only omitted him from the list of 'great' wins that can legitimately be argued or detracted from in any way. Maybe Barrera didn't prep his best the first time out against Pac, but I'm not gonna hold that against Manny.
I also omitted a bunch of creditable wins for Mayweather, as I omitted Sasakul and Ledwaba.
It's not the weight that made Hatton better against Floyd than against Pac, just as the weight doesn't make Pac's win any more creditable - it's where the fighter was at performance-wise. I always argued against the theory that Hatton 'threw the gameplan away' against Pac, he was trying to fight the gameplan but didn't have the ability - I always argued from November 2008 on that Hatton's performance against a very poor Malignaggi was not in any way impressive and that the same approach would get him merked against Pacquiao. Of course Ricky was better against Floyd - tactically, he was fighting his fight at the pace he needed to fight it. Mayweather Sr. slowed him down, made him think twice about everything, plus EVERBODY saw the wear and tear on Ricky before he even fought Pacquiao, that flattering performance against Paulie concealed it, but EVERYBODY remarked upon how deteriorated Hatton looked from a career of rough fights topped off by a slow, steady, brutal beating by Floyd.
Yes, Oscar was past-prime against Floyd, but he was at a healthy weight, coming off a stellar KO of Mayorga a year before, and he was FLAT-OUT CATABOLIC against Pacquiao. When the naturally markedly bigger man, who's been campaigning up at higher weights for years, comes in a pound under than the little guy on fight-night, you know something is seriously up. You've heard Roach's comments about his reasoning for accepting to fight DLH. He saw how Oscar looked coming down in weight for Forbes.
Floyd fought a past-prime, but healthier, still far closer to optimum DLH, period.
I have no problem admitting there's an argument for Castillo edging one of his battles with Floyd. I didn't omit that for any other reason except Floyd clearly won his duo of battles with Castillo on aggregate (can't say the same of Manny in his pair of fights with Marquez, which are evenly split).
How is it an agenda to concede that Manny's résumé edges Floyd's and to also state there isn't as much between them as supposed in some quarters?
I'm addressing the comments of Rashad, who basically shitted on everything Mayweather's done, and illustrating that so many of Manny's accomplishments can just as easily be discredited.
What's your agenda?
Back in November, I just wanted to see these cats fight and may the best man win. Now, after 5 months of unfair, hateful invective being directed at Mayweather on these forums by a phony moral consensus, I REALLY want to see them fight, but for a different reason, because I know Mayweather will kick his ass and shut those phonies up once and for all. That's 100% honesty from me.
Floyd will kick Manny's ass if they fight. Mark it down.
Amen couldnt have said it better myself. Floyd will take Pac 2 school Boxing 101