People really make me cringe on this site, wtf and how do you score a fight based on what? who you want to win or landed punches or what? Ruslan obviously scored the harder,cleaner, punches, but algieri staed on his bike and outboxed him. But people forget this is a fight not a style contest, who would you rather be at the end of that fight? Algieri was running for his life and had 1 eye, if the fight was 15 rounds how would he continue?
personally I only watched it once and I think ruslan might have won by a point but he took his foot off the pedal. IDK im torn between the 2 and need to sit down and watch it again but from what I saw live, a fight, I think Ruslan won the fight but Algieri won the boxing match. Wasn't not that long ago where when a boxer would choose to box instead of fight then the loser wouldn't be exposed but simply lost on "points" idk man i really don't know. The people who say Danny beat Herrera or Maidana beat floyd should be the same people saying Ruslan beat Algieri. SO WHY THE FCK ARE THERE DOUBLE STANDARDS?
This is pathetic.
I cant believe what Kellerman has started. Yall sound like parrots.
"Who would you had rather been?"
Buncha puppets around here.
That phrase annoys the fuk out of me
How about removing your emotions and being honest and unbiased, you will enjoy the sport a lot more. I am not talking directly about the TS either I am talking IN GENERAL. I find that fans get caught up way too much into this Countrymen, Race Pride and a Bunch of other CRAP that has nothing to do with Boxing and plays NO determining factor as far as who wins
This has ruined Forums like and this mostly only happens ONLINE because in person at fights and at fight parties people are enjoying the fights and no excuse are made after the fight. Robbery is screamed but literally anybody on this forum when "THEIR GUY" lose instead of just admitting defeat and giving props to the other fighter.
Are you describing the people who scored nearly every round for Algieri? because that's what you just described.
Provo is a bad guy because he is associated with Top Rank and Roach.
ok I just re-watched the fight. I had the score 113-112 or 114-111 provodnikov.
round 1 was 10-7
So Algieri and Provo both won 6 rounds a piece on my card, but provodnikov had that 10-7 round. With round 11 could have gone either way to either fighter but if I gave it to Algieri its still 113-112
Round 1 Provo
Round 2 Algieri
Round 3 Algieri
Round 4 Algieri
Round 5 Provo
Round 6 Algieri
Round 7 Provo
Round 8 Algieri
Round 9 Provo
Round 10 Algieri
Round 11 Provo
Round 12 Provo
Surely if Algieri gets 11 it's a draw?
You got the fight level after 10, re-count my friend
This is pathetic.
I cant believe what Kellerman has started. Yall sound like parrots.
"Who would you had rather been?"
Buncha puppets around here.
Don't know about anyone else but I'd rather have been the man who had his arm raised!
Your point?
Herrera was the better boxer. Algieri was the better boxer. Mayweather was the better boxer.
On my card, they all won their fights.
Huh? I don't remember Herrera's hand getting raised by the ref in the Garcia fight. What did I miss? What exactly is your point?
No double standards, and you mention Herrera - Garcia.
Your point?
Herrera was the better boxer. Algieri was the better boxer. Mayweather was the better boxer.
On my card, they all won their fights.
I thought Provo won but it was close. At the end of the day Algieri was landing but every time Provo landed on him he would shake like a ragged doll and that plus the knockdowns was enough to win him the fight in my card.
yeah I thought he won too. Its hard to score the fight for sure but anybody who favors a boxer is going to favor the boxer no matter what
I thought Provo won but it was close. At the end of the day Algieri was landing but every time Provo landed on him he would shake like a ragged doll and that plus the knockdowns was enough to win him the fight in my card.
Because some people like DLH or Some people like Danny Garcia, so they will say they won even if the other guy boxed their ears off or they boxed some dude's ear off people are fans of certain fighters, and will back them no matter what.I have people here still talking about Bradley won that first Pac fight -_-. That's where it comes from and that's the simple answer for most non sensical sh*t you read here (fanboyism), seriously how are you surprised by this?That sh*t aint new here. In the other hand the guys who like the other guy or, like charging punching bag guy will discredit the dude who boxed saying he was a "runner" ,or all he did was pity pat etc because he boxed the guys they like ears off.
There's two side to every coin. Truth is Provodnikov probably won by a couple of points, but I can see a few judges swinging a few rounds the other way, so i'm not calling this sh*t a robbery I've seen enough real fk up, no doubt robbery score cards to recognize them when I see them. This wasn't it.
Yah I know its fanboyism but they are in such denial about it lol its like fck man why cant you say who you think really won instead of letting your fanboyism get in the way. imagine them as two animals in the wild duking it out lol idk bout that comparison but I think you get what I mean.
yeah I never said it was a robbery I just said I thought provo pulled it off like you said so yourself. But yeah the judges are the judges and it depends on what they like, im sure most of them talk before the fights and discuss on what type of fight the favor in scoring.
I understand this but for this particular fight I think ruslan still won. Whats up with oscar de la hoya vs tito? people dont have a problem saying DLH was running at the end, but he still outboxed him and won. So where do these double standards end?
Because some people like DLH or Some people like Danny Garcia, so they will say they won even if the other guy boxed their ears off or they boxed some dude's ear off people are fans of certain fighters, and will back them no matter what.I have people here still talking about Bradley won that first Pac fight -_-. That's where it comes from and that's the simple answer for most non sensical sh*t you read here (fanboyism), seriously how are you surprised by this?That sh*t aint new here. In the other hand the guys who like the other guy or, like charging punching bag guy will discredit the dude who boxed saying he was a "runner" ,or all he did was pity pat etc because he boxed the guys they like ears off.
There's two side to every coin. Truth is Provodnikov probably won by a couple of points, but I can see a few judges swinging a few rounds the other way, so i'm not calling this sh*t a robbery I've seen enough real fk up, no doubt robbery score cards to recognize them when I see them. This wasn't it.
It may be a fight but it's not a street fight. It's called boxing it aint just about who hits harder and everyone judges how a fight is scored differently even judges. In my opinion those early knockdowns where enough for Provodnikov to win,but he wasn't doing jack sh*t throughout the fight to earn himself rounds,you can't always win a fight with one punch and landing few and far between is the same as giving away rounds to the guy who is out-throwing and out-landing on your face doesn't matter if you hit him one really hard if he is hitting you 5 times for every one hard one you get in.
I understand this but for this particular fight I think ruslan still won. Whats up with oscar de la hoya vs tito? people dont have a problem saying DLH was running at the end, but he still outboxed him and won. So where do these double standards end?
ok I just re-watched the fight. I had the score 113-113 or 114-112 provodnikov.
round 1 was 10-7
So Algieri and Provo both won 6 rounds a piece on my card, but provodnikov had that 10-7 round. With round 11 could have gone either way to either fighter but if I gave it to Algieri its a draw
Round 1 Provo
Round 2 Algieri
Round 3 Algieri
Round 4 Algieri
Round 5 Provo
Round 6 Algieri
Round 7 Provo
Round 8 Algieri
Round 9 Provo
Round 10 Algieri
Round 11 Provo
Round 12 Provo
People really make me cringe on this site, wtf and how do you score a fight based on what? who you want to win or landed punches or what? Ruslan obviously scored the harder,cleaner, punches, but algieri staed on his bike and outboxed him. But people forget this is a fight not a style contest, who would you rather be at the end of that fight? Algieri was running for his life and had 1 eye, if the fight was 15 rounds how would he continue?
personally I only watched it once and I think ruslan might have won by a point but he took his foot off the pedal. IDK im torn between the 2 and need to sit down and watch it again but from what I saw live, a fight, I think Ruslan won the fight but Algieri won the boxing match. Wasn't not that long ago where when a boxer would choose to box instead of fight then the loser wouldn't be exposed but simply lost on "points" idk man i really don't know. The people who say Danny beat Herrera or Maidana beat floyd should be the same people saying Ruslan beat Algieri. SO WHY THE FCK ARE THERE DOUBLE STANDARDS?
It may be a fight but it's not a street fight. It's called boxing it aint just about who hits harder and everyone judges how a fight is scored differently even judges. In my opinion those early knockdowns where enough for Provodnikov to win,but he wasn't doing jack sh*t throughout the fight to earn himself rounds,you can't always win a fight with one punch and landing few and far between is the same as giving away rounds to the guy who is out-throwing and out-landing on your face doesn't matter if you hit him one really hard if he is hitting you 5 times for every one hard one you get in.
Dont buy it.
And this wasnt a PPV either.
That is all sir.
PS Dont buy the Canelo PPV either. Cause we dont wanna hear you whining about one guy "running".
there you go being a manipulative bastardd once again. I was referring to big fights and ppv but I was talking about the people in general who put this fight together and people watching want to see a good fight not an exhibition match. and i will order canelo ppv because hes going to wax that ass and ill bet you all your poiints for coming to my thread and talkin sht
That Chris managed to box that way after what happened in round 1 and with that eye in such condition only makes it more commendable. Algieri won no doubt about that. You cant say a guy won based on the damage he managed to make in one round alone.
people are misunderstanding what im saying about id rather be provodnikov. It doesnt matter how a fighter looked but he took the most damage and was landing pitty pat punches, it goes all on the judges like someone said it depends on what the judges like more that particular fight. every one is entitled to their opinon and i just thought provo won at first and im watching it again i have it tied after 6 rounds
quit being a manipulative troll,That wasnt included in my original post it was directed at you and your bullsh*t agenda you push and how double standards do exist. But I dont care about none of that what im saying is most as in 90% of the people who actually buy the ppv dont wanna see someone on their bike the whole damn time and if they do I wanna see a damn knockout from that fighter. That is all sir
Dont buy it.
And this wasnt a PPV either.
That is all sir.
PS Dont buy the Canelo PPV either. Cause we dont wanna hear you whining about one guy "running".
quit being a manipulative troll,That wasnt included in my original post it was directed at you and your bullsh*t agenda you push and how double standards do exist. But I dont care about none of that what im saying is most as in 90% of the people who actually buy the ppv dont wanna see someone on their bike the whole damn time and if they do I wanna see a damn knockout from that fighter. That is all sir