anythin less than a mayweather fight for a pacquiao is bull####. this fight agains mosley is absolute garbage and an insult to boxing fans. cant blame both fighters for trying to make a living though..
Its better to see a garbage match than wasting time on when or where Chickenfloy going to fight the best out there. LOL.....
All I know this is just a simple strategy for Top Rank boss to let mayweather go out and grow some balls to fight Pac. LOL....
I looked it up couldn't find anything about catchweights, maybe I should use Yahoo?
Boxers have wallets first then pride.
This match will be another Hatton Pac replica...
After reading this thread, I guess we are getting an early look at the excuses that will be pouring in tomorrow evening once Bradley smashes this guy.
Oh... only in your dreams....
Pac will going to whooop bradley and send him to dreamland....
Hehehe its show that they are only a bunch of stupid flomos out there believing on some issues without a concrete proof.
This people cannot accept the fact that PU$$Y Fraud Gayweather is really affraid to fight Pac, coz, Pac is a beast inside the ring.....
Pac will soon retire with his record clean and gathered all his awards... but Fraud will only take his best talkative award. hehehehe
All this over analyzation and dissection of the Floyd vs. Pacquiao negotiations seems to have missed a very simple point.
Manny Pacquiao has boxed since his early teens, been in MANY brutal, epic wars in which both he and his opponent take serious punishment, I assume he's also watched a few fights in which he hasn't been a contestant...and he expects us to believe that he doesn't want to fight because he feels weak after losing BLOOD?
How about the cut that Marquez had when he fought you the second time and IMO went on to BEAT you with?
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0315/box_a_marquez3_400.jpg
How about the cut Valero had a couple weeks ago, spraying blood all over himself and continued to fight like a champ?
http://www.boxingscene.com/uploads/25190/valero_gano.jpg
How about all the blood that was sliding out of Miguel Cotto's cheek when he fought Clottey?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/bryan_armen_graham/06/14/cotto.clottey/clottey-cotto.jpg
How about David Haye going on to beat Giacobbe Fragomeni with this monster gash?
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42336000/jpg/_42336430_haye_blood416.jpg
But princess Manny just can't fight after losing half a table spoon for a drug test a few DAYS before a fight. Sorry, but anyone who has spent any time watching has seen guys fight like animals with tons of blood loss. And we're supposed to believe this chump?
Sorry Pac-fans, your boy is EXPOSED!
Hehehehe analysis of a none sense flomos,
Pac ain't no JMM, or Valero who fight bums. hehehehe, or Haye, Pac is not on their level of stardom as of this time...
If you want the piece of Pac then do whatever his demand that is fairly enough and will go through under the rule of NSAC & boxing commision.
There is some serious misunderstanding going on on this board. Floyd fans vs PacTards. I forget what Floyd fans are called so dont call me bias by use of the phrase Tards. I want to clear this up for all of you high school students and below, hopefully all the adult fans are mature enough to already understand this.
Floyd fans are hoping that Manny is clean. We want him to be clean just as much as his most loyal following. If he is clean, that means we get to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, This is what we want. As a Mayweather fan, I would love nothing more than to see these two fighters in the ring. Floyd himself would love nothing more than to see Pac Clean and in the ring. Want to know why, cause if not clean, there is no fight, no event, and whats even worse, as far as Floyd is concerned. NO MONEY, NO PAYDAY!!
So when we talk about Pac on PED's, Ariza's Milkshakes, Olympic testing, we are talking about Pac's unwillingness to take the test. That is what pisses us off, he is Unwilling To Take The Test.
That stuff about Filipino Pride, and Floyd can't dictate to Pac, thats all bologna!! Thats called excuses, and excuses are monuments of nothing that build bridges that lead to nowhere. So again, we are upset that Pac did not willingly submit to testing like Shane is doing, this is what I, personally expected to happen. Why? Cause Roach in past interviews stated we have no problem with drug testing we'll pass any test. So why you backing down now m-therf-kers!!!???? What you scared of? Needles???
So I'm going to stop writing cause I'm starting to get pissed again. And yes this is bringing it up all over again but just want u good people to know that Mayweather fans want Pac to test and we want him to be clean, and we want his ass in the ring vs the truth.
:asshole::haha::haha:
Oh really..... want to be clean then look for the result of all his test conducted by the NSAC...
can you not accept that PU$$Y Fraud Gayweather Chickens Out in that fight of the century.....
well well well. there is some here shouting his stupidity in this board...
No hard feeling dumb.....
Truth is I assumed Boxing Commissions were already doing the best drug testing available. Because of this episode I now know the truth, and that is guys have and continue to get away with PED usage due to primitive, out of date, testing methods. Olympic style testing is the best available and I agree with Floyd that it should be implemented in all professional sports. Who would disagree with that? Only Pac fans apparently.
Hehehe hearsays are means bullshit at all, present the concrete evidence that will support your accusations then the whole world will believe in you, but if you think you can fool people that has enough knowledge about what you are talkin, hehehehe only those like you are the one who believes in those monkey weather, and remember as they say "the same feather flack together" hehehehe and only stupids believes with a foolish stupids...
I was looking into my archive at all the Pacquiao's fights that i have so i can get some prospective on "The Event" and watched the first MAB, EM, & JMM fights so far & it made me wonder if Pacquiao had ever fought a pure boxer. Now all these fighters have strong boxing skills but are not pure boxers, and since I've haven't seen every fight Pacquiao's been in i wanted to know if there's any fight i can look up to see him up against a pure boxer.
hehehehe isn't JMM is a Pure Boxer.... that Pac give the most difficult fight in his career.....
or can you call him now as a pure wee wee drinkers....
hahahahahahahahahaha
and way back to 122lbs I can remember Agapito Sanchez is a pure boxer with matching headbutt.... that makes Pac look like cotto that resulted to draw...
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From DLH to Hatton
From Hatton to Cotto
and now from Cotto to Clottey..
..have all had to focus on making weight for the majority of their camps..De La Hoya hadn't fought at 147lbs in 10+ years..Hatton always balloons up to like 180 between fights..so we ALL know that his major battle in camps is to make weight..Cotto started a couple weeks earlier because there was a catchweight..and in the weigh in..you can tell that it was their BEST accomplishment once Santiago got all in Roach's face once Cotto's weight was announced..
and now Clottey..someone who's been pretty vocal about struggling to make 147lbs and a much bigger guy who wasn't forced to come down in weight..but has said in the past that 147lbs has been hard for him before..
Now I'm not trying to take anything away from Pacquiao's accomplishments..I'm just stating an observation that he's picked the perfect opponents at the perfect time at the perfect weight class..and they defeat themselves and walk in to the ring and let Pacquiao finish them off..that's not to say that they would've have beat Pac otherwise..just saying they were defeated before even stepping in the ring..except for maybe Hatton who always does the same shit..but he's hit or miss and goes off raw talent..which I admire..just wish his heart was there for the sport more..
Excuses belong to those losers, hehehehehehe
want to discredit pac accomplishment, then go to hell together with the PU$$Y gayweathers, you have all the same colors.
OMG......
Clottey robbed???? Stk stk stk.....
only fools and racist thinks clottey was robbed...
What I see in that fight was Pac open up his guard to let Clottey exchange some punch but when Pac releases some of his own, then Clottey covers up again in his turtle guard defense, a defense that doesnt wanted to fight... what a coward act.
After he demolishes Pac I am positive half of you will commite sepaku.
Hehehe no baby PU$$Y cannot beat Pac at this time.....
remember what monkeyweather sr. said in his past interview that lil Pu$$y can beat Pac with or without what they are accusing steroid user... but now what, they chicken out the fight.....
how can PU$$Y beat the **** out of Pac if they are running away.....
All you need to know-
Floyd wanted olympic style testing that he was also willing to take
Shane Mosley agreed on olympic style testing and a fight was made
Pac walked away from 30+ million
Common sense says any boxer with nothing to hide would agree to olympic style blood testing for 30+ million
Conversely the only reason to turn down 30+ million is because you have something to hide.
Pac is fighting Clottey where the random testing isn't required.
Hehehe...
Accept the fact baby, PU$$Y Fraud Gayweather Affraid to fight Pac....
He chicken out in their fight of the decade...
In the end, Pacquiao refused to take the strictest drug test.
That does'nt sound right.
Hehehe stupid moron....
Pachaters always remain stupid coz they don't understand that Pac accept the test but not 24 days before the peak of his training and willing to take the test right after the fight....
now what.
I wonder what will be people excuses when Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley outsells all of Pacquiao's PPV!!!
Just curious, We know this next PPV will be all on Mayweather's back.
In the words of Freddie Roach.
"Shane is not a draw,Cotto is a bigger draw than Mosley."
So when Mayweather vs. Mosley does better than Pacquiao vs. Cotto
what will the reasoning be???
When Mayweather vs. Mosley does better than Pacquiao vs. De la hoya
what will the reasoning be???
When Mayweather vs. Mosley does better than Pacquiao vs. Hatton
what will the reasoning be???
When Mayweather vs. Mosley does better than any Pacquiao PPV fight
what will the reasoning be???
Will some of guys still hold on to the myth that Pacquiao is still the cash cow in the sport??
I am taking any and all bets that Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley will beat any ppv fight Pacquiao has been invovled in.
no hate just trying too stack my points up... damn u reed:damnit:
No comment of PPV income is...
but if you consider this logic...
KFC vs SSM is an all american fighter that only generate 1.4 while
Pac vs Cotto both non american who surpass a 1M buys...
1.4 PPV is still good but, far from ODLH PPV fight at 2M buys.
How can it be proven when he refuses to take the tests?
Pac abides and follow the rules of NSAC and take every test they impose in his passed fight, and the results was negative...
When he fight EM for the first time he was taken some blood for the the additional blood test and resulted to negative...
To make Clottey go down is hard. How much more to knock him out?
Cotto put him on his ass in the first with a jab but that was a perfect timed jab while Clottey was off-balanced.
Pac knocking Clottey out is a shock to me but if it's stopped due to cuts or due to amount of punches taken, I won't be shocked.
Cotto take him down with just one jab.
Yeah I mentioned him on my list. Man Pac wanst to be up there with the greats he needs to stop with the 145, shot shit and start fighting.
Beating David Diaz, Hatton shot, Oscar shot and Cotto at 145 AND damaged goods. And Barerra and JMM isnt enough to make you the Number 2 ATG when he hasnt even fought the best guy in his era yet.
:haha::haha::haha::haha:
You keep on mentioning excuses here,
DD was a Champ that no one want to fight him at 135... LOL
Maybee ODLH but they meet halfway with Pac from 135 moving up to 147, and ODLH come down to 147 from 154...
Hatton??? a shot oh baby, He himselt proclaimed as the best fighter at 140lbs division out there.
Cotto damage good who retires Jennings and give Clottey a tough competition even he was suffering with a big gusty cuts.
Man, only if Pacquiao just accepted them damn OST drug tests 9 months ago.
Far out.
We would've had a fight.
Wow Man......
If a real best fighter want to fight, without the OST drug test you are saying it can happen anytime but KFC chickens out, it is a simple way to ducked Pac...
and now what, Pac willing to accept all the possible demand but, KFC Chickens out again....
What if.....
Pac does'nt need KFC to prove he is the best....
But KFC need Pac to be proclaimed the best of the best....
Pac have nothing to loose... but KFC many things to gain....
Why not KFC accept the fight with the NSAC rulings..... and besides.
Pac willing to be tested, one before the kick off, another one 24 days before the hard training start, and another is right after the fight. (this is fair enough)
This is the great deal pac offers.... with KFC has many things to gain...
But I dont think he is willing after Pac beat Clottey in a 12 round shoot out
shut yo biasd ass up.wat was pacs ppv numbers for marqez compeard to floyds agan? thats right now shut up
LOLzzz
You know why KFC vs JMM gained more PPV number???
coz every boxing fans believes that JMM can beat KFC. and not because they are watching KFC....
those people want to see KFC loss to JMM but they were wrong at all..