I'm white, English and an AJ fan.
If he's come out with those comments, I feel let down. Sugar coat them all you want, it's complete racism, and shoe on other foot, would result in an absolute **** storm for a white fighter.
My initial reaction was it wasn't true, but after Hearn was online trying to pour water on it, I do wonder. On top of the fact that Chambers is presenting a convincing prosecution, and why would he go to this degree of defamatory information when, if bogus, could land him up in court.
Wilder is known to UK fans. Very much so. I think the problem is (Especially with casuals), that they can't compare him with anyone. So sticking him in with someone they know, will give them a yardstick as well as whetting appetite for the inevitable future fight.
Wilder should beat Whyte, Bellew, Chisora et al, but he hasn't fought any of them.
Wilder v AJ is a huge fight now, in 6 months or in three years.
Me personally, I think it's the biggest fight out there. As AJ has stated he won't relinquish any titles, he's more than likely to fight a mandatory for his next defence. Then possibly Fury in the summer.
It should keep brewing along nicely for the next 6-9 months. In the mean time, Wilder should take care of Stiverne, then a defence against Whyte, Bellew, Haye (which at the same time would appease the casual Brits) would set up a barnstormer late next year.
That's actually a pretty great idea. But this is boxing, so that will never happen. Mainly because if Bellew wins again, he's gonna feel disrespected if his reward for beating Haye 2x is being fed to Deontay Wilder. And if Haye wins, they're gonna go the trilogy route IMO.
If Bellew manages to come through Haye again, he'd snap your hand off if offered Wilder. He tried stoking up a fight when Wilder came over to commentate on the AJ v's Klitschko fight.
All academic for me as I think he'll do really well to see off Haye again, and will not want another rematch once beaten.
Golovkin and Canelo were stars in the same country, Joshua and Wilder aren't.
The public pressure will mount on Joshua ONLY if Wilder comes to UK and knock Whyte the **** out, because right now he's no more popular over there than Fury, Whyte or Haye. All these fights would be much bigger than AJ/Wilder right now.
There's the truth!
Hearn's a business man. He wants the Wilder fight as I genuinely think he's confident of unifying the division with his man. He wants to make the fight huge though!
A lot of casuals in the UK will think Wilder is another punch-bag for AJ to drill in the first 3 rounds if the fight is the first of the three that Hearn's proposing for next year.
The money is over here, and if Wilder came and made easy work of Whyte in the UK, he'll have a huge negotiation stick to use for later in the year.
This is really poor. Why not go on this show once you're finished with your short, short boxing career?
That said, maybe this is the route he's wanting to take. Hasn't boxed for 18 months.
Damn I haven't been that wrong in a VERY long time??? I guess that's why you never mix business with pleasure. So where does this go from here???
I thought they both were "C" class fighters??? Does this mean Saunders is a "B-" ?? Or Lemuix is a "D" Class fighter???
I have NEVER referred Lemuix as a world class boxer. He got KO'd by Ricky Martin Rubio and 154lb Alcine beat him... You must be thinking of GGGTards?? Who rank ALL Gtards opponents P4P Top 10 when he fights them. And then POOF they turn back into Pumpkins when they fight anyone else...
Good Call as always!!! Should of listened to you.
Well done for manning up and admitting you were wrong. You were far from the only one early on in this thread.
I really don't get it? If he's (or his management) are worried that he'll lose the belt then fair enough, but surely they appreciate the money that can be made. He could even have a rematch clause. Worst case he loses both, he can then have big money fights with the likes of Whyte. There's huge money there for him to be made, but it just seems that the Wilder camp are content to keep the green belt for as long as possible making a fraction of the money that could be earnt. Maybe he really likes his undefeated tag. Who really knows?
He seems like a nice guy. Hate that he's doing this to himself and his family.
I hear your sentiment, but what other options does he have. We all want them to go home safe to their families.
He's a fighter who obviously hasn't earned enough to be comfortable for a long time.
He's doing it to support his family.
Huge risk, but isn't that the same for every fighter?
Some sensible posts in this thread. It's quite refreshing given the subject.
I've always thought AJ wins this. Cannot just dismiss DW though. If he manages to connect, then AJ may go to sleep.
Still going with AJ. I feel he's too strong with better all round ability. Better pedigree and CV.
Sometimes counts for nothing however.
I am nationalistic as far as I'd support any Brit in an international bout.
I'm also rational. There's been plenty of talk about the Brits dominating the HW division at the moment, and I don't think it's necessarily down to the talent pool. It's all about the numbers that can be provided.
Yes, there's other fighters out there, but they can't make anywhere near the numbers that can be made in the UK.
Povetkin must've just fought in front of his biggest ever crowd, on the undercard of AJ.
Haye v Bellew, whoever wins is in for a huge payday against A.N.Other. Fury on the verge of fighting a couple of bums, but will still get huge interest.
Whyte is knocking on the door for a title and is now on PPV getting very large crowds.
There's also a few very talented looking prospects coming through.... DDD, Gorman
Chisora has been in with the best, but always come up short, but still doing the circuits.
You can't argue that the HW division is currently ruled by the Brits.
This has nothing to do with who'd win out of Wilder & AJ.
I thought it was a home decision. I feel if it was a world title fight in a neutral venue, the decision would've went against CF.
Kudos for taking it on though. He could've taken on much lesser opposition for his first fight with a new corner coming off the back of his first professional loss.
He said as much afterwards that he needs to listen to his team in selecting fights, as he had a big say in this one. They'd be wise to have another 'tune up' before pursuing bigger names.
I'd watch Parker v Browne. I think Parker wins this one.
I think they've both got better CV's than Wilder.
I've got to say, I expected Parker to be AJ's next fight. Followed by Fury in the summer, then Wilder back end of 2018. Interesting to see who's next now.
He had me fooled. He can box, but it's that boring type.
Depends what you like.
I thought it was an excellent performance and enjoyed watching it. Not all great performances are blast outs.
I think he eluded to it in his post fight interview with BT Sports. He would've jumped on him in previous fights, but Dominic Ingle has reigned him in. Didn't need to and the game plan was perfect.
Hearn probably has a few more questions he needs answer to..
Fckn pathetic Brits.
2 fight deal is pointless nobody will demand to see a rematch after AJ gets left on a stretcher in front of 90,000 tea sippers.
Ha. I'm English and that's funny
Unification time. GGG vs Saunders in the UK. Canelo vs Saunders (WBO Middleweight) will be like Canelo vs Smith(WBO Super Welter), not to many PPV buys.
He's much a better boxer than Liam Smith.
It'd get more PPV's after tonight's performance.
I agree Hearn has put on excellent nights in the past but he is taken over by greed .You can not see this? If it's left to Hearn AJ. will be fighting guys he's already sparked and he will be selling these as the biggest fights ever at premium rate both gate and PPV or with his deal with Stub Hub where you can buy the best seats for three times as much money! Hearn is operating as a loose cannon given the leverage sky have given him and the fights we want to see are being overlooked so he can protect his cash cow .This is nothing new as I'm sure you know but the fights that are live right now simply won't get made.You'd have to be a complete novice not to see that.
I don't think it's greed. It's resenting paying over the odds to unify the belts.
That's the only leverage Parker and Wilder have. The fact that they know AJ desperately wants to unify the division. Something neither of them are interested in.
Whyte v Bellew if Tony loses to Haye.
That is of course if Bellew continues. I've got a feeling he might call it a day. That would be another big pay day for him, so it could be tempting for him. Whyte sees it as easy work and would be a decent scalp.
I've got a lot of time for Chunky. Should see off this guy tomorrow night.
Also looking forward to seeing Yarde step up a level to fight Sjekloca. I think this fight will show us if he's the real deal or not.
Relax guys. Nobody from either camp are ducking anyone. They both want it. It'll happen on Hearn's terms though.
AJ will fight 3 times next year as pointed out. If Hearn has his way, Wilder will be the last of them. Makes sense from a business point of view. Wilder is now publicly knocking on the door and getting column inches in the UK. It'll build up nicely late for late next year.
You can understand Hearn wanting Wilder to fight Whyte first as he's in his stable. Why not as well?
Fight Whyte in the UK and I'm sure a Vegas bout can be made in Nov '18. Wilder mentioned about the contract not stipulating that he gets AJ after. Why would it? If he loses, who would want to see him fight AJ? If he wins, fans from both sides of the pond would demand it. So it's win or bust. I'm sure he's more than capable of putting Whyte away in his own back yard. That would give him some leverage in wage negotiations as well.
Anyone else watch Graham Norton and think 'Supreme black race' when he talked about Prince Harry taking one of the sisters, before giving his black power salute?