BILLY JOE SAUNDERS has travelled across the Atlantic to prove to those in America he deserves a shot at the middleweight big boys. The WBO champion defends his title against Canadian and hometown favourite David Lemieux in Montreal early on Sunday morning. Click Here To Read More]
Originally Posted by yoshik
No matter what shape B-Jo Saunders is in HE SUCKS AS A BOXER. And NO power. Lemieux will not let this go to the score cards. BJ will get what we all need-his mouth to stfu.
great prediction retardo hahaha
:lol1::lol1:
go drown yourself Yoshik :lol1:
The 160 divison is back to being one of the BEST again!
What order would you rate these guys???
Andrade
Canelo
Charlo
GGG
Murata
Sergiy
1) Golovkin/Canelo (with Jacobs)
2) Saunders
3) the rest
they can earn their ranking, rather than rely on me to guess
like I did 1-2 years ago at welter
when they become relevant, I will rank them
Canelo has the highest ceiling and is likely the best fighter..... but Jacobs/Saunders would be difficult fights that we have to see
there will not be a lot of opportunities at 160 over the next 12-18 months, even Danny Jacobs will struggle to find big fights
Canelo/Golovkin/Saunders will squeeze out those other guys as they settle their business, and Jacobs will have to make a different path unfortunately..... nobody will hand him anything..... same with those other guys
they will simply have to fight each other, like the welters eventually realized
the obvious (lesser) fight to make is Charlo/Andrade..... but those guys all need to get in the mix..... same with Derevyanchenko/Murata
throw them in the deep end, and see who floats to the top..... those who don't wanna get thrown in the deep end will not get a ranking from me.....
middleweight is getting hot at the top.....those other guys are either up there, or they are not relevant
Damn I haven't been that wrong in a VERY long time??? I guess that's why you never mix business with pleasure. So where does this go from here???
I thought they both were "C" class fighters??? Does this mean Saunders is a "B-" ?? Or Lemuix is a "D" Class fighter???
I have NEVER referred Lemuix as a world class boxer. He got KO'd by Ricky Martin Rubio and 154lb Alcine beat him... You must be thinking of GGGTards?? Who rank ALL Gtards opponents P4P Top 10 when he fights them. And then POOF they turn back into Pumpkins when they fight anyone else...
Good Call as always!!! Should of listened to you.
I always said that he could be in that mix
up there with the top three, I mean
I actually had him ranked #2 at 160 up until the Golovkin/Jacobs fight..... then I had him ranked #3, behind Golovkin/Jacobs, until after the Canelo/Golovkin fight - what with Canelo never actually fighting a middleweight opponent..... now he is a firm #4, but there is likely very little between all of those guys as we saw with Jacobs/Canelo when they fought Golovkin
..... so he has actually slipped in my estimation, as other fighters staked a better claim with top performances against a top opponent..... but yea, he is in that mix
he certainly will not be regarded as a no-chance no-hoper underdog like Jacobs/Canelo were before they fought Golovkin :D
but GGG is MUCH better than Lemieux, as he proved..... so Jacobs/Canelo deserve to be ranked ahead of Saunders due to their razor-close draws/losses/wins, however you saw it
folks shouldn't blow too much smoke up his ass just yet, those other guys are next level, he aint gonna do that to them
there are other fighters at 160 who could also make things difficult for those guys over the next couple of years, but not a lot has changed to me as yet..... as far as I am concerned the best thing to come out of this fight..... will be Bill's mouth..... expect a ton of pvssy-borat, ginger-minge, taxi-cab driver, comments directed at the other three over the coming weeks
Damn I haven't been that wrong in a VERY long time??? I guess that's why you never mix business with pleasure. So where does this go from here???
I thought they both were "C" class fighters??? Does this mean Saunders is a "B-" ?? Or Lemuix is a "D" Class fighter???
I have NEVER referred Lemuix as a world class boxer. He got KO'd by Ricky Martin Rubio and 154lb Alcine beat him... You must be thinking of GGGTards?? Who rank ALL Gtards opponents P4P Top 10 when he fights them. And then POOF they turn back into Pumpkins when they fight anyone else...
Good Call as always!!! Should of listened to you.
Well done for manning up and admitting you were wrong. You were far from the only one early on in this thread.
No matter what shape B-Jo Saunders is in HE SUCKS AS A BOXER. And NO power. Lemieux will not let this go to the score cards. BJ will get what we all need-his mouth to stfu.
great prediction retardo hahaha
but, that is simply not correct at all
don't know how you can say that to be honest
David Lemieux, is the epitome of average
he is " just " a puncher..... nothing more
he is bread-n-butter for a good fighter, which Saunders is
hopefully BJS proves that tonight, which I think he will
Saunders has above average skill and enough power to keep Lemmy honest, which should do the trick
if you bet a dollar on Lemieux then you are way braver than I am
if Lemmy wins it will be a huge upset, and Saunders will be done at the top level
You were so right. Saunders proved his worth today. I was 200% Wrong. Good call
back in Dec 2015, when Golovkin offered Saunders a paltry 1.5mil (which was ridiculous)..... and then rushed off to fight Wade/Brook, with NO counter-offer.....
..... did you guys REALLY think that Golovkin suddenly changed his mind, and walked away from his "dream"..... ? :):)
Saunders was just the latest in a long line of skillful fighters who exploit movement that Golovkin found a reason not to fight..... "dreams" and all
Jacobs was a mando, and Canelo was a payday.
1) it is clearly obvious that 1.5mil was ABSURD
2) despite it being plainly obvious to knowledgeable observers..... I have a link where Abel Sanchez admits that Golovkin is not the same fighter if his opponent does not stand in front of him
3) despite those two facts, you mugs called me a hater, just for stating the obvious
someone nailed it, again.....
..... David Lemieux, is the epitome of average
he is " just " a puncher..... nothing more
he is bread-n-butter for a good fighter, which Saunders is
hopefully BJS proves that tonight, which I think he will
Saunders has above average skill and enough power to keep Lemmy honest, which should do the trick
Saunders is already inside Lemieux's head
I expect Lemieux to miss wildly and blow his load down the stretch
if he does not catch Saunders with something early, it could be a long frustrating night for him
..... Lemieux has never been a top level fighter so if Saunders wins it'll be a good win for him but not a huge upset. Lemieux isn't top 3 in the middleweight division.
..... Lemieux is the epitome of average, just a tough-guy puncher..... difficult for someone like Curtis Stevens, but bread-and-butter for a skilled boxer
Lemieux is not a genuine world-class fighter, Saunders could be with commitment/activity..... currently, neither of them operate at the level of Golovkin/Canelo/Jacobs.....
a re-dedicated Saunders, with a couple of recent fights under his belt, really should be viewing Lemieux as a showcase opponent..... his plan should be to defuse/dissect the "killer" in his own back yard, schooling him while looking great in the process.....
Saunders had no problem travelling because the venue/opponent are a perfect showcase opportunity..... I would be very surprised if Lemieux was the favorite, even fighting at home
you guys were sleeping on Saunders
and, NO..... that was not his best performance.....
I have been watching him since he was a kid
thank god we no longer have to listen to guys refer to Lemieux as world-class
No matter what shape B-Jo Saunders is in HE SUCKS AS A BOXER. And NO power. Lemieux will not let this go to the score cards. BJ will get what we all need-his mouth to stfu.
If you can't even afford to bet a dollar then I feel sorry for you...
Are you really that fvcking broke??
Saunders has never been a top level fighter so if Lemiux wins it'll be a good win for him but not a huge upset. Saunders isn't top 3 in the middleweight division.
You really need to stop swinging off Saunders nutts so much....
you are sleeping on Saunders
Damn BJS looks in great shape!!!
Much better!!! Good before after pics.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/arZKPRvR5KE/maxresdefault.jpg
jesus...that pic on the left...good god.....how can someone who is an active prizefighter under the age of 30 look like that?
If you can't even afford to bet a dollar then I feel sorry for you...
Are you really that fvcking broke??
I said that I was not stupid enough to bet a dollar on Lemieux, not that I could not afford to
..... Saunders has never been a top level fighter so if Lemiux wins it'll be a good win for him but not a huge upset. Saunders isn't top 3 in the middleweight division.
You really need to stop swinging off Saunders nutts so much....
when I change the names in that post, it becomes more accurate.....
..... Lemieux has never been a top level fighter so if Saunders wins it'll be a good win for him but not a huge upset. Lemieux isn't top 3 in the middleweight division.
I think that Lemieux is the epitome of average, just a tough-guy puncher..... difficult for someone like Curtis Stevens, but bread-and-butter for a skilled boxer
Lemieux is not a genuine world-class fighter, Saunders could be with commitment/activity..... currently, neither of them operate at the level of Golovkin/Canelo/Jacobs.....
a re-dedicated Saunders, with a couple of recent fights under his belt, really should be viewing Lemieux as a showcase opponent..... his plan should be to defuse/dissect the "killer" in his own back yard, schooling him while looking great in the process.....
Saunders had no problem travelling because the venue/opponent are a perfect showcase opportunity
look I could be wrong, but that is genuinely how I see it..... no idea what the odd's are, as I no longer gamble..... but I would be very surprised if Lemieux was the favorite, even fighting at home
Saunders is already inside Lemieux's head
I expect Lemieux to miss wildly and blow his load down the stretch
if he does not catch Saunders with something early, it could be a long frustrating night for him
I don't get it. What do People see in Saunders? He's an average fighter with average attributes. Lemuix KOs this dude inside of 10 rounds
but, that is simply not correct at all
don't know how you can say that to be honest
David Lemieux, is the epitome of average
he is " just " a puncher..... nothing more
he is bread-n-butter for a good fighter, which Saunders is
hopefully BJS proves that tonight, which I think he will
Saunders has above average skill and enough power to keep Lemmy honest, which should do the trick
if you bet a dollar on Lemieux then you are way braver than I am
if Lemmy wins it will be a huge upset, and Saunders will be done at the top level
Billy is biting the dust tonight. He gots nothing to keep LeMule off. He might get a quick break from a friendly ref in the UK, but not in Montreal. A small ring will fix all that boxing he plans to do.
Tonight's Fight will be EPIC.
PUNCHER vs COUNTER PUNCHER.
One box always moving forward, the other always looking for counters.
Brute Force vs Skill.
Exactly.... Well said my friend..well said.
BJS is a very skilled fighter that is finally taking training seriously like he should have been doing 5 years ago.
Once he beats Lemi tonight, his resume will have Eubank Jr, Andy Lee, David Lemieux and Willie Monroe jr on it and he's still only 28 years old compared to GGG being 35.
Only reason he beat Lee was because he had a round with 2 knockdowns, which helped him barely escape with the victory. He got outboxed most of that fight by another average fighter. Monroe is not even top 15 at 160. Eubanks was a good victory, but the Eubanks now would EASILY BEAT SAUNDERS.
I like BJS! War!!!
Tonight's Fight will be EPIC.
PUNCHER vs COUNTER PUNCHER.
One box always moving forward, the other always looking for counters.
Brute Force vs Skill.