So you are actually going to pretend that Roy Jones was some proven professional fighter leagues above Hopkins in their first fight? And that Hopkins beating Roy now is comparable to Roy beating Hopkins in their first fight?
Sad.
Seems to me like somebody can't read properly. I was picking up on your ridiculous Roy was green comment. At no point in my post did I say that if Hopkins were to beat Jones in 2010, it would be better than Jones win over Hopkins in 1993. It's obvious which is better the better of the two (assuming Hopkins does beat RJJ).
But of course RJJ was streaks above Hopkins in their first fight. Not only was he an Olympic medallist (should be gold) with over 150 amateur fights to his name, but he was not a fighter who relied on boxing fundamentals and therefore the RJJ of 1993 wasn't very different from the RJJ of the later part of the 90s. Hopkins on the other hand, he hit his prime when his fundamentals were polished and his physical attributes were still in good shape. Hopkins of the early 90s had physical strength, but not the fundamentals to go with it. He was just a semi-elite fighter in comparison to the elite fighter he became.
This is no debate, Roy Jones was nearly as green himself when he fought Hopkins, and he is the only person to decisively beat Hopkins. Hopkins is still a top level fighter and RJ is shot to hell.
HAHA, this post sucks. Roy Jones is an OLYMPIC MEDALLIST with almost 150 amateur fights to his name, how the hell could he be green? Pre-prime maybe, but green.. GTFO with that. I hope you know that the Roy Jones of 1993 and the Jones of the late 90s aren't that different. Roy Jones never got fundamentally better at boxing, he always relied on his reflexes and that's why the difference between pre-prime Jones and prime Jones isn't that much.
Bernard Hopkins on the other hand, whilst he wasn't green he certainly wasn't as experienced as Roy Jones. The Hopkins of 1993 and the Hopkins of the late 90s and early 00s are incredibly different fighters. Hopkins got fundamentally better in every single department and there is no comparison between the Hopkins of 93 and the Hopkins of 1999/2001.
Besides, Hopkins is not a top level fighter anymore. Don't let his P4P ranking fool you, his legs are shot and if he wasn't so damn fundamentally good he wouldn't be in the position he's in right now. Bernard Hopkins will beat pretenders like Kelly Pavlik until he's 50 because if you come straight forward at Hopkins you will never win. But as soon as a guy brings lateral movement and speed to the table, Hopkins can take him close but never dominate him like he would have done in his prime.
Hopkins is a master of the sweet science. You might not find it entertaining, but appreciate it. I for one have always enjoyed watching B-Hop and he's my favourite boxer ever.
Erdei & Johnson do little for Calzaghe. Froch is still out for the jury and would serve only to "shut him up" per se. Dawson is the only one who benefits.
Echols is a shot fighter now, obviously. I think he'd hold a version of the MW title if he was active and prime now. I always thought he were a little chinny but he could bang really hard, KO puncher.
Whitaker made his debut at 20 and was fighting world class opposition on a consistent basis right up until he started slipping going into the Rivera fights. After he unconvincingly beat Rivera he gave Oscar a close bout (which I scored for Sweet Pea) and then drug problems, poor training regime and inactivity finished him off completely. Floyd's been training consistently his entire career, his body is clean and he hasn't met anywhere near the same calibre of opposition that Whitaker did.
Basically, fighters primes differ. Not sure why but it's the same in every sport, everybody peeks at different times.
Is he fighting Berto then?
Mosley needs to stay active, especially at his age. He should just take a durable contender who doesn't pose much threat to shake off some rust. I don't want him coming into his next fight against an elite WW rusty and then losing.
Calzaghe battered Lacy to the point where to this day, he's been unable to recover. Lacy was a solid fighter who KO'd some decent SMW and now he can't even win a solid decision. He got a gift decision over the scrub - Otis Griffin. Lacy is shot to pieces.
That was an excellent fight. The last round is one of my favourite rounds this decade. I didn't expect the fight we got, I expected it to be another Tito/De La Hoya (dissappointment for all the hype) but it definitely exceeded my expectations. Oscar & Shane were two exceptional talents in their respective primes.
This would be an easy victory for Mayweather. Berto is green but I'm not all that sold on him as it is anyway. He seems to be just another HBO hypejob.
I think that Lederman gave the 12th to Cintron because he didn't believe that Angulo did enough to warrant a draw. It was an awful decision because it was clearly an Angulo round, but Lederman just could not accept the fact that (in his eyes) Angulo did enough to deserve a draw.
I've always found Harold Lederman to be a pretty average judge who's made some bad calls in his time.
8-4 (116-112) Kermit Cintron.
This is the first time I have been legitimately excited for a Heavyweight contest in quite some time. I don't always agree with what Haye says and does but he's brought some much-needed excitement back into the sports most storied division and it's about time somebody did it. This will be an interesting match up.
I had Cintron winning at 8-4 (116-112). Was surprised that Kermit managed to pick up a victory. Was also surprised at how bad Angulo looked last night considering people were hyping him up to be the next big thing at the 154lbs division.