Shane fought Collazo in February of 2007, then Floyd fought Oscar in May. So the second half of the year was available for those two. However, Shane fought Cotto and Floyd fought Hatton, that's why that didn't happen.
Mosley should have fought Mayweather in November of 06..
The reason why May is not giving Mosley the time of day is simple.
Mayweather wont get credit for beating up an Mosley. There will be excuses.
May can make more money fighting the winner of Cotto/PAc.
May is giving Mosley the run around because Mosley DUCKED May in the past. Payback is a bitch.
Iceta, you are coming off as a biased person by trying to justify all of the ducking that Shane has done over the years. Everyone ducks fights for various reasons...money usually being the main one. Everyone's favorite fighter has ducked someone because the risk/reward wasn't in their favor. I'll concede that in 1999 when Mayweather called out Shane, it made some sense to avoid him. But in 2006, the timing was perfect. Shane was coming off of two dominant performances and his name was relevant. It still could have lead to a PBF vs DLH match regardless of the outcome as well, which would have still been a huge ppv draw. It would have netted Shane a lot more money than he made against who he ended up fighting instead, Collazo. Shane is going to make less money against Berto than he would have if he had agreed to fight Paul Williams even though Berto has a belt right now. So if the money is there for the fight, why avoid it? I'm pretty sure the majority of people know why you would avoid a fight that is going to pay you a hell of a lot more....I like Shane, but he rubbed me the wrong way by going Kanye on the 19th....
Shane fought Collazo in February of 2007, then Floyd fought Oscar in May. So the second half of the year was available for those two. However, Shane fought Cotto and Floyd fought Hatton, that's why that didn't happen.
Iceta, you are coming off as a biased person by trying to justify all of the ducking that Shane has done over the years. Everyone ducks fights for various reasons...money usually being the main one. Everyone's favorite fighter has ducked someone because the risk/reward wasn't in their favor. I'll concede that in 1999 when Mayweather called out Shane, it made some sense to avoid him. But in 2006, the timing was perfect. Shane was coming off of two dominant performances and his name was relevant. It still could have lead to a PBF vs DLH match regardless of the outcome as well, which would have still been a huge ppv draw. It would have netted Shane a lot more money than he made against who he ended up fighting instead, Collazo. Shane is going to make less money against Berto than he would have if he had agreed to fight Paul Williams even though Berto has a belt right now. So if the money is there for the fight, why avoid it? I'm pretty sure the majority of people know why you would avoid a fight that is going to pay you a hell of a lot more....I like Shane, but he rubbed me the wrong way by going Kanye on the 19th....
Mosley is the man right now at WW. Fraud should fight him now that he had his "tune-up-joke-circus" fight against a LW
Moselys a tool thats going down!
Margarito is garbage to begin with, and he had just had a war with Cotto. ok sure give Mosley props for beating a slow one dimensional come forward fighter..
Lets see, he had life and death with a washed up fatty in Fernando Vargas. Are you serious?? Not a prime Vargas, a washed up Vargas
He lost his 2nd fight to De La Hoya while he was on steroids.. Thats pathetic.. And everyone knows he really lost that fight.. He made it closer because he came on late but why did he do that?? hmmm was it the steroids he injected in his butt cheeks before the bout??
He was losing and getting outboxed by a washed up Ricardo Mayorga.. Who is a brawler by the way, and he scored a lucky last second ko to get a victory.
He wanted no part of FLoyd from 2000 to 2006.. In an interview, he said he had a tooth ache, and wants to go spend time with his family.. GTFOH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uz9qVhLIY0&feature=related
The same guy that killed the guy that everyone said was the best Welterweight in the world and could never be KO'd Margarito. He Ko'd Mayorga and Vargas twice. He beat prime Hoya twice, 8 straight defences at lightweight all wins via KO. Willing to take the best on even if they are bigger i.e Winky, Vernon.
Floyd wouldn't even get in the ring with Winky or Vernon let alone Cotto.
Margarito is garbage to begin with, and he had just had a war with Cotto. ok sure give Mosley props for beating a slow one dimensional come forward fighter..
Lets see, he had life and death with a washed up fatty in Fernando Vargas. Are you serious?? Not a prime Vargas, a washed up Vargas
He lost his 2nd fight to De La Hoya while he was on steroids.. Thats pathetic.. And everyone knows he really lost that fight.. He made it closer because he came on late but why did he do that?? hmmm was it the steroids he injected in his butt cheeks before the bout??
He was losing and getting outboxed by a washed up Ricardo Mayorga.. Who is a brawler by the way, and he scored a lucky last second ko to get a victory.
He wanted no part of FLoyd from 2000 to 2006.. In an interview, he said he had a tooth ache, and wants to go spend time with his family.. GTFOH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uz9qVhLIY0&feature=related
I like some fighters, and I dislike some fighters. Where are you trying to go with this debate? Are you trying to show me that you belong in a mental asylum?
I debate posters with some clue as to wats goin on. This is not a debate but more like a father lecturing his Step-child(meaning I could give a fuk about ur feelings and whether or not u get wat i'm saying without forcing u to listen to me screwing ur mother at bedtime).
Spoken like a novice who dnt know shyt! Stick to trolling and pbf bashing. U dnt knw me as a poster and u damn sure knw little about boxing mr. fan of all fighters.
I like some fighters, and I dislike some fighters. Where are you trying to go with this debate? Are you trying to show me that you belong in a mental asylum?
You are a jock star to me. Because the only guy you like is Paul Williams. I am the guy's fan too, but at least I follow other fighters.
Spoken like a novice who dnt know shyt! Stick to trolling and pbf bashing. U dnt knw me as a poster and u damn sure knw little about boxing mr. fan of all fighters.
I expect guys to know something when they r on a Boxing forum or not be jockstars and try to learn something new about the sport. all while having a mature debate.
You are a jock star to me. Because the only guy you like is Paul Williams. I am the guy's fan too, but at least I follow other fighters.
It comes with the territory. What do you expect?
I expect guys to know something when they r on a Boxing forum or not be jockstars and try to learn something new about the sport. all while having a mature debate.
The difference between Floyd and Shane is... Shane is begging and calling out everyone to fight him and they are scared to fight him. Everyone is calling out Floyd and Floyd is afraid to fight everyone.
Now isnt that some complicated logic! And once again pbf comes up.
The conclusion that I come to is you are a Shane Mosley hater, all the way. I am a fan of both Paul and Shane, because they fight like warriors. You've got to give both of them props. I don't think that Shane would've turned down Paul Williams back in his younger days. Why would he do that when he fought Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright? If he loses a fight to a young guy without the monetary benefit to go with it, it's likely over for him on the big stage. His bitch wife probably has a lot to do with the way he's been acting lately. I don't know every single detail about Mosley's financial hardships. But he doesn't have a lot of room to take fights that are not lucrative. Williams did offer him a pretty decent payday though. I'm not disputing that.
sounds like a weak azz excuse used by pbf and the rest of the cowards at WW!
thats pretty fukin stupid and petty. discuss wat i post if u dnt agree with it. its too easy. this iz boxingscene not mayweatherscene. i believe u cant dispute my point so u try to find a way to discredit wat i say.
u failed.
The conclusion that I come to is you are a Shane Mosley hater, all the way. I am a fan of both Paul and Shane, because they fight like warriors. You've got to give both of them props. I don't think that Shane would've turned down Paul Williams back in his younger days. Why would he do that when he fought Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright? If he loses a fight to a young guy without the monetary benefit to go with it, it's likely over for him on the big stage. His bitch wife probably has a lot to do with the way he's been acting lately. I don't know every single detail about Mosley's financial hardships. But he doesn't have a lot of room to take fights that are not lucrative. Williams did offer him a pretty decent payday though. I'm not disputing that.
I'm disappointed in Shane turning down Paul Williams too, but I'm trying to figure out if you are one of these posters with an agenda like most of the others are.
thats pretty fukin stupid and petty. discuss wat i post if u dnt agree with it. its too easy. this iz boxingscene not mayweatherscene. i believe u cant dispute my point so u try to find a way to discredit wat i say.
u failed.
R u fukin serious! 147-160, remember buddy? and how the fuk did pbf get into this convo? What I said is a proven fact and u try to respond with BS. GTFOH! Now Thats fukin retarded!
I'm disappointed in Shane turning down Paul Williams too, but I'm trying to figure out if you are one of these posters with an agenda like most of the others are.
How can you duck a guy that is two divisions bigger than you are. That's just fucking retarded. To me, when you make posts about Paul Williams like this, you are not really a fan of him. You are just trying to shift the focus away from Floyd's ducking ass. Paul Williams has talked plenty of shit about Floyd Mayweather. He just did a few days ago, and said that he wasn't impressed with Mayweather' win over JMM. He said that he is a smoke screen where the P4P list is concerned. I also totally agree with him. And back in 2007 he called Mayweather out along with Cotto in his post-fight interview of his win over Margarito. Only that time, he was at 147. Why no demand from Floyd to fight him then?
R u fukin serious! 147-160, remember buddy? and how the fuk did pbf get into this convo? What I said is a proven fact and u try to respond with BS. GTFOH! Now Thats fukin retarded!
Too late buddy! He already openly ducked PW and got a pass becuz everyones fav fighter did too! :nonono:
How can you duck a guy that is two divisions bigger than you are. That's just fucking retarded. To me, when you make posts about Paul Williams like this, you are not really a fan of him. You are just trying to shift the focus away from Floyd's ducking ass. Paul Williams has talked plenty of shit about Floyd Mayweather. He just did a few days ago, and said that he wasn't impressed with Mayweather' win over JMM. He said that he is a smoke screen where the P4P list is concerned. I also totally agree with him. And back in 2007 he called Mayweather out along with Cotto in his post-fight interview of his win over Margarito. Only that time, he was at 147. Why no demand from Floyd to fight him then?