Gary "the retard" Shaw is preventing this to happen.
I know bud, they better make it happen (soon!) or Vic will be forever known as Nonito's ho in boxing history.
well they are kinda even since VIC made Nonito's brother an even bigger HO...
id rather get KOd then quit midway in a fight making lame excuses... Glen is an embarrasment to Nonito.
wrong, Vic is the bigger ho, because he was an ass before and after the brutal KO. he is up there with Zab Judah in the embarrasment ratings.
when a guy is beat that bad, there's no need for a rematch and no demand for one either. I don't think anybody would put up enough money to have that rematch made unless Vic loses again
the painful truth. that was a major ass whoopin = NO REMATCH.
Nacho is a very good trainer and can help him be more disacplined and help his offensive game. He's done wonders for the Marquez brothers and Abner Mares. He's done great in the past with Finito Lopez and Chiquta Gonzalez.
Mijares did have a plan, but it was the wrong one. He was waiting for Vic to jump in reckelessly and get countered. Vic got a new trainer and look at the wonders it did for him. A new trainer might not be a bad choice.
Then read my first post :smashfrea
run crying to daddy nacho right? you can throw in emmanuel stewart and Roach in there too, it would not make a difference.
and how did I reply?
by the way, show me your wife too
tell her I gots money. divorce xcaret for me and the world could be her oyster...and I'd F&^% her too
here's xcaret's wife... and yes it's a girl, it was just wearing a dildo at the time, per xcaret's request.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/bonsi2/donkey1.jpg
Please, one Mexican loses and you wanna front like the rest of our peoples are as weak as FILIPINOS!? lol Only a regime of female soldiers on a battle field can be classified as your equivalents.
Truth is, the ONLY fighter in Mares' way is Lopez. And Lopez is 10x's the fighter that the "Filapeeno islands" can produce lol, be serious.
Pac has good head movement (against odlh jab), i love it when he faints jab (creates opening) then shoots a lead left, but that doesnt seem to be as potent as the jab -straight left. i think Pac's awkward fighting style, in and out, side to side movement, speed and workrate might be the key, that is if he can take odlh punches. i heard so many left hook this, left hook that, not worried about that shit (but of course i hope it doesnt land) coz i think Pac and team is aware of that dreaded left hook and pac is a southpaw so its not as prone if youre orthodox, im worried on odlh's overall punching power.
dont want to give you percentage, coz i'm a pinoy lol, it wont make sense, but if you insist ......................... 60% lol :cool2:
Boom! damn i'm good! thank you, thank you. ha ha! my conservative % is a bit off though LOL!!
and oh yeah i forgot to add, if youre a crab and feels my thread is nuthuggery and is giving pac fans a bad rep please feel free to clown around. thanks.
Okay, time for me to interject some logic into this discussion.
Excluding the possibilities that the fight is fixed (which I wouldn't doubt) Pacman has anywhere from 0-5% chance of winning this fight. Here is why.
#1 - Reach : 67" to 73"
Pacman has made a career out of being the bigger stronger faster man, even against people without a significant reach advantage over him, he has displayed a tendency to lunge uncontrollably to close range.
Against Marquez he payed for this. He lunged in off balance and got caught with some monstrous punches.
Oscar will keep him at the end of his jab and drop the left hook as Manny lunges in with left hands.
#2 - Power
Pacman has been hurt, and dropped by fighters with significantly less power than Oscar. Oscar has traded blows with Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, etc...
To put it simply. Manny cannot take the kind of power that Oscar brings to the table, while Oscar can take the kind of power than Manny is going to bring.
#3 - Defense
Pacman is exciting for the same reason he has close to a 0% chance of winning this fight. His defense is VERY leaky. He is there to be hit if you are willing to weather the storm. Unfortunately for Manny, the storm will be several miles off the coast.
nice post...but can you imagine lady fan being right and you being wrong. that would be fukin hilarious lol.
ha ha ha!! LOFL!!!
No :bs2:
Discuss!:boxing:
Pac has good head movement (against odlh jab), i love it when he faints jab (creates opening) then shoots a lead left, but that doesnt seem to be as potent as the jab -straight left. i think Pac's awkward fighting style, in and out, side to side movement, speed and workrate might be the key, that is if he can take odlh punches. i heard so many left hook this, left hook that, not worried about that shit (but of course i hope it doesnt land) coz i think Pac and team is aware of that dreaded left hook and pac is a southpaw so its not as prone if youre orthodox, im worried on odlh's overall punching power.
dont want to give you percentage, coz i'm a pinoy lol, it wont make sense, but if you insist ......................... 60% lol :cool2:
10K Manny Floors Oscar and 10K Oscar doesn't floor Manny any takers? :D
oh man, no takers yet!?! LMAO!!
ima bump this post again later to see if anyone wants it lol.
Okay, time for me to interject some logic into this discussion.
Excluding the possibilities that the fight is fixed (which I wouldn't doubt) Pacman has anywhere from 0-5% chance of winning this fight. Here is why.
#1 - Reach : 67" to 73"
Pacman has made a career out of being the bigger stronger faster man, even against people without a significant reach advantage over him, he has displayed a tendency to lunge uncontrollably to close range.
Against Marquez he payed for this. He lunged in off balance and got caught with some monstrous punches.
Oscar will keep him at the end of his jab and drop the left hook as Manny lunges in with left hands.
#2 - Power
Pacman has been hurt, and dropped by fighters with significantly less power than Oscar. Oscar has traded blows with Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, etc...
To put it simply. Manny cannot take the kind of power that Oscar brings to the table, while Oscar can take the kind of power than Manny is going to bring.
#3 - Defense
Pacman is exciting for the same reason he has close to a 0% chance of winning this fight. His defense is VERY leaky. He is there to be hit if you are willing to weather the storm. Unfortunately for Manny, the storm will be several miles off the coast.
nice post...but can you imagine lady fan being right and you being wrong. that would be fukin hilarious lol.
I don't know why you're comparing Diaz to DLH. Oscar is leagues ahead of Diaz, also Oscar is Marquezx10, and we all know Marquez really won the 2nd fight.
leave her alone thats her prediction, are you bothered by it? look at it this way, you get to flame her if pac gets koed lol
GUYS STOP the F_CKING FIXED/RIGGED theory ...
its totally D_MB/ST_PID for Oscar to let this fight go other than a KO VICTORY for himself, If Manny wins, Oscar would loose some respect with himself and at the least should be Embarassed that a puny little guy duked him out.
dont take the CREDIT of possible victory of PAC away from the man, as little a chance as most of the experts and most of the posters here give him ...
by the way I am a PACFAN and being as such, I give Manny a lot more chance to surprise us....
i didn't even pay attention to the fight being RIGGED/FIXED predictions, it's so stupid i thought they were just fukin around ha ha.
this thread is perfect for those who think and/or wants pac to lose, but isnt sure, so you know, if theyre wrong, they can say.."eh, i gave 5 -20% chance of winning so basically i knew in some how Pac can pull it off"...lol
:firedevil
Pacman will win...
101%
that's fo sho!
:boxing:
cool, i have almost the same number, but i deducted -20% for nuthuggerism and another 20% for patriotism = 60% (2% of that is Hope ) lol :cool2:
the left hook will connect and pac will go down
lol oh yeah the left hook, damn thats vicious, i hope odlh doesnt land that shit, vargas and mayorga went down on from that vicious left hook right. vargas was young and got careless, mayorga, well hes mayorga lol hey bro who else went dowm from that dreaded odlh left hook?
I may get a lot of hate on this but i really feel this way. I know a lot of people make a big deal about the size difference and i am one of them. There is no reason why DLH cannot stop him within 12 rounds. If it goes 12 i think it will be De La Hoya letting Pacquiao hang around. I know Pacquiao can box and use speed but i feel if De La Hoya hits him cleanly with a left hook he will drop like a fly.
Pacquiao is a great fighter and deserves his p4p ranking but the weight is too much in my opinion. Say what you want but i think DLH is gonna let Pacquaio win rounds to make it look competitive. If he lets Pacquaio go 12, it would be a ploy to lure Mayweather out of retirement to show Pacquaio hung in with a guy several weight classes heavier.
Sorry but thats how i feel about this fight
those are nice tities...
If big George even grazes Wlads jaw he will knock him out, coz Wlad would panic and hyper ventilate, then collapse, after crawling on the canvass looking constipated.
George would cut up Vitali's face for a tko win. Vitali would protest of course, challenges George to a rematch, then Georges retires.
Watch Gaylahoya turn around while gettin hit by Pac's 8 punch combos and wave his arm saying "no more" somehere in the 10th round.
Just one of those bold predictions.:lol1::dance:
:p
LOLAGE!! OWNAGE!! (mannyp ?) lmao!...........damn
ha ha! i was looking for this thread