Pretty bold statements here, but here it goes:
How to get a rematch in the first place, either one of two ways:
1. Fight in February 2009 against David Lookmahanak and become the mandatory. If the WBC updates their rakings then if the Thai will probably be #1 and Mijares #2.
2. Hope that the WBC forces a rematch. Some people might say that they wouldn't because the first fight was to one sided, but look at Mosley-Wright 1. They forced Wright to take a rematch, so who knows.
What he should do to win the rematch. Personally I think that Mijares was thrown off by Vic's brilliant gameplan last night and that he can adapt to win a rematch. It's not to crazy to think this. Many fighters have taken a beating and then come back to win the rematch. Look at Daisuke Naito vs Pongaselek Wonjongkom. Naito was knocked out in 32 seconds for their first fight and then in the third fight, beat Pong.
Things he can do to win the rematch:
-Hire Nacho. Bring in a new trainer to help him to come up with a better gameplan. It was obvious last night that Mijares last night was waiting and waiting for Vic to jump in so he could catch him. That never happened and Mijares was thrown off even more by getting knocked down in the first round.
-JAB JAB LEFT HAND. Jesus I wanted Mijares to do this so much, but he never did. Mijares is pretty good with his jab normally, but last night he just couldn't do it. He was heistant to throw because he knew Vic's power. But if he would have doubled up with the jab, even if those miss, he could have found the left hand.
-Go to the body! Mijares was doing this pretty well late in the fight, but he should have done it a lot sooner. Vic had his elbow up and his body was wide open.
-Get in and out. Back Vic up, but then don't stay in there to long to get blasted again. Mijares' legs can work pretty well, but he didn't use them last night because he was to preoccupied with Vic's power.
-Don't bend in! God this was killing me last night. Mijares was doing a better job of rolling Vic's punches out in the later rounds, but he'd still get tagged pretty damn hard when he was bending in. He was trying to go down and then roll them out, but Vic uses very good angles and it wasn't working.
-Don't stand there and try to block Vic's punches with your gloves. Another thing that was killing me. Mijares would just freeze up and try to block Vic's combos with his gloves, but Vic's angles were reaching around and tagging him all night. Insted use your legs so he doesn't get the chance to stand there and throw.
A rematch with Vic is winnable. Mijares was starting to do better in the later rounds and some of the rounds he lost were on the table until Mijares took some bigger shots and lost them towards the end. It was an awful gameplan for Mijares and a brilliant one for Vic.
nah mijares would get beat up more id say.....his chin would probably be damaged by the beating vic gave him yesterday and he might get it a lot quicker and worse in a rematch
Because Kawashima obviously cracked Mijares' chin so badly that he couldn't do shit in the rematch. Kawashima dropped Mijares in the second round of the first fight and Mijares adapted better.
Kawashima hit Mijares in the rematch too and Mijares' chin was fine.
Also Mijares (hopefully) wouldn't be there taking those shots. Mijares can make adjustments for the rematch. It's not logical
Also Donaire vs Arce will probably happen and who knows if Montiel vs Darchinyan would happen, so a rematch could possibly happen.
Maybe they did order it, but Wright wanted that fight immediately after the first fight. Watch the interview with Merchant, he says he wants Mosley again. So it didn't really matter because if he didn't want Mosley, he would have dropped the belt like he did with the IBF and Ouma.
Yeah, that's 100% true.
It just shows that one of the three sanctioning bodies that have their belt with Darchinyan might order a rematch because it could make some $$$...
Although, I will say, I think Darchinyan vs. Montiel is the more interesting matchup at this point, because Darchinyan vs. Mijares was not particularly close.
Maybe they did order it, but Wright wanted that fight immediately after the first fight. Watch the interview with Merchant, he says he wants Mosley again. So it didn't really matter because if he didn't want Mosley, he would have dropped the belt like he did with the IBF and Ouma.
Yeah, but Darchinyan doesn't need the belt. Why would he fight Mijares again unless he wanted an easy payday?
Also, the WBC never forced Wright to face Mosley again. That was a unification match and Wright took the rematch because he couldn't get Oscar. He even says after the first Mosley fight in the ring with Larry Merchant, he wants Mosley again, Tito and then Oscar.
I'm actually fairly certain that the WBC ordered a rematch.
I think Wright was forced to give the WBC (it actually might have been the WBA) belt up or lose his IBF belt, because Ouma was his mandatory there.
The WBC ordered the rematch, because it was easily the biggest money fight they could make at that point, and... well... the WBC likes money.
Yeah, but Darchinyan doesn't need the belt. Why would he fight Mijares again unless he wanted an easy payday?
Also, the WBC never forced Wright to face Mosley again. That was a unification match and Wright took the rematch because he couldn't get Oscar. He even says after the first Mosley fight in the ring with Larry Merchant, he wants Mosley again, Tito and then Oscar.
But look at what Darchinyan's new trainer did for him. He's more cautious now. He waits and then attacks. Darchinyan is a lot better then he was and everyone underestimated him.
You can never say that it would not make a difference. Nacho could very well improve Mijares, but Roach and Stewart would be an awful fit for Mijares. Roach improves sluggers really nor does he know spanish. Stewart isn't a good fit for him either.
Also the trainer thing isn't as big of a difference as to the actual points I've made on what Mijares could do differently to win, which you've ignored completely. Good job.
I think the active schedule will do better for him. Taking some time off might make people forget about him and nobody will care. Look at what Kessler he basically took 2008 off and people don't care about him as much.
Not rushing him in, but if he fought Devid Lookhamak(sp) for the mandatory, it could give him a nice tune up and make him the mandatory.
Hence why, once again, he fights Devid Lookahamak for the WBC mandatory position. That or he fights Arce again for the WBA shot, which is never going to happen. That or he goes over to Japan to fight Nobou Nashiro to gain the WBA interim belt.
Hey Warp the only problem with your thread is the fact that Mijares doesnt want a rematch. Watch the post fight presser and listen to the man speak.
run crying to daddy nacho right? you can throw in emmanuel stewart and Roach in there too, it would not make a difference.
But look at what Darchinyan's new trainer did for him. He's more cautious now. He waits and then attacks. Darchinyan is a lot better then he was and everyone underestimated him.
You can never say that it would not make a difference. Nacho could very well improve Mijares, but Roach and Stewart would be an awful fit for Mijares. Roach improves sluggers really nor does he know spanish. Stewart isn't a good fit for him either.
Also the trainer thing isn't as big of a difference as to the actual points I've made on what Mijares could do differently to win, which you've ignored completely. Good job.
Maybe he needs to get some time to rest and think about all. He has been very active, fighting 4 fight every year since 2004. What do you thing about that warp?
If the rematch hapens I still go with Mijares.
I think the active schedule will do better for him. Taking some time off might make people forget about him and nobody will care. Look at what Kessler he basically took 2008 off and people don't care about him as much.
Not rushing him in, but if he fought Devid Lookhamak(sp) for the mandatory, it could give him a nice tune up and make him the mandatory.
**** no, he got blown out. He needs to earn it.
Hence why, once again, he fights Devid Lookahamak for the WBC mandatory position. That or he fights Arce again for the WBA shot, which is never going to happen. That or he goes over to Japan to fight Nobou Nashiro to gain the WBA interim belt.
No rematch (because Mijares fought terribly, he was no match against Darchinyan), unless, they (Mijares & Darchinyan) ask for it. It will be interesting to watch.
Maybe he needs to get some time to rest and think about all. He has been very active, fighting 4 fight every year since 2004. What do you thing about that warp?
If the rematch hapens I still go with Mijares.
Nacho is a very good trainer and can help him be more disacplined and help his offensive game. He's done wonders for the Marquez brothers and Abner Mares. He's done great in the past with Finito Lopez and Chiquta Gonzalez.
Mijares did have a plan, but it was the wrong one. He was waiting for Vic to jump in reckelessly and get countered. Vic got a new trainer and look at the wonders it did for him. A new trainer might not be a bad choice.
Then read my first post :smashfrea
run crying to daddy nacho right? you can throw in emmanuel stewart and Roach in there too, it would not make a difference.
Don't trade with Vic this time, use your jab, fights over.
You've been talking a lot of shit Little Pacman. Give your credit, admit that Vic shocked everyone and move on.
Why are people here talking like Mijares did not have a plan going into the fight. or wasnt prepared and shit.
hire nacho?? ha ha ha ha lol!!
Nacho is a very good trainer and can help him be more disacplined and help his offensive game. He's done wonders for the Marquez brothers and Abner Mares. He's done great in the past with Finito Lopez and Chiquta Gonzalez.
Mijares did have a plan, but it was the wrong one. He was waiting for Vic to jump in reckelessly and get countered. Vic got a new trainer and look at the wonders it did for him. A new trainer might not be a bad choice.
I don't know how he could improve in a rematch.
Then read my first post :smashfrea