Official 2020 Presidential Election Discussion Thread

[GhostofDempsey]

Dude 90% of people crossing the border are Mexican. And no are not criminals. They come here to do work the average American line yourself refuse to do.

Face it your messiah, your president who “god” sent you is a racist.

If 90% of them were Polish or Swedish you'd all be crying about how we need to do something to fix this. The fact is, the Mexican border is an entry point for Chinese spies, Islamic terrorists from the Middle East and Africa, and it is allowing unvetted people to enter the U.S., many of which are criminals or possibly carrying some infectious disease. Why not emigrate legally? You seem to have a problem with laws that were designed to protect us.

You know this based on what ? Where are your legitimate sources that don't just cite each other ? You're a smart @ss. I hope you don't need to definition of what legit sources are.

The investigation is under way. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see there was rampant voter fraud and corruption. You need to change the channel and stop watching CNN. Tune in to other news sources that are actually reporting this. Get out of your bubble.

See what I mean? Give you examples, you deny them. Just as I posted. I guess when you're a white male nationalist those things aren't considered racist.

Do I actually have to explain that owners are responsible for the policies in their buildings? The Justice Department sued Trump, not his staff.

I can't control the fact you've decided to believe in disinformation. Unsubstantiated claims in Rumble, Parlor and other far right internet sites don't make Biden or Harris like Trump.

You gave false examples. As usual. Then you played the race card on good posters here. Biden will pave the way for China to own this country. Like I said, you'll be bowing to the people who hate you and your race the most, and if you think selling out to them is a good thing you'll be in for a rude awakening.

[D.I.E.S.E.L]

If 90% of them were Polish or Swedish you'd all be crying about how we need to do something to fix this. The fact is, the Mexican border is an entry point for Chinese spies, Islamic terrorists from the Middle East and Africa, and it is allowing unvetted people to enter the U.S., many of which are criminals or possibly carrying some infectious disease. Why not emigrate legally? You seem to have a problem with laws that were designed to protect us.



The investigation is under way. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see there was rampant voter fraud and corruption. You need to change the channel and stop watching CNN. Tune in to other news sources that are actually reporting this. Get out of your bubble.



You gave false examples. As usual. Then you played the race card on good posters here. Biden will pave the way for China to own this country. Like I said, you'll be bowing to the people who hate you and your race the most, and if you think selling out to them is a good thing you'll be in for a rude awakening.

Oh .. so you don't have sources ? From your tone, you've already come to a conclusion based on every single statement. I should get out of the bubble ? The reality bubble ? I'm going off the facts of the situation, what has been presented up to date. My view will adjust if the sources justify so.

[man down]

c'mon ... I say they, you say "you guys" ... I don't know who you guys is. They is referring to those gaming the system but saying differently publicly. This system was in place before Obama, and unlike you I'm not pointing to one party and blaming. All parties are guilty, but specific parties/y, which I don't need to point out, have harsher outlook toward immigrants while reaping in all the benefits ... the other is more progressive towards the same issue

Even more reason it should have been changed right? I mean, Rs are taking advantage of these people right? Why not be the first to fix the system when you have the power to do so??? Instead you pass and blame the next guy? Seems odd.

This is why I liked Trump. There were no excuses. He pushed for everything he campaigned on even if it wasn't popular and passed more than most presidents do. He didn't care about the politics.

[billeau2]

Indeed, I write a lot as well, in fact, that’s all I do. I write what I want first (unedited), then, I go back and edit my mistakes, not because I’m a perfectionist but because I respect my audience, whoever they may be. But that’s just me.



I have no idea what’s happening on your end, nor do I care, all I care about is being able to comprehend what the person I’m dialoguing with is saying. So if I misunderstand you, I consider it entirely your issue for not taking the time to make sure I do understand you. That what good communication is all about.



If we’re discussing gravity or facts, that isn’t a matter of interpretation in my humble opinion, which is why I try to buttress my statements with support. More often than not when I encounter a person that has an aversion to this the discussion is fruitless for me because I’m not going to take some random person’s word for just about anything over the internet. It isn’t personal, it’s just that I’ve found people who talk out of their ass, more often than not turn out to be absolutely full of it. I’m a critical thinker as well, so what may be good for you, wouldn’t pass the sniff test for me.



That’s complete nonsense. A “fact n.” is defined as a thing that is known or proved to be true. We’re not talking about absolute truth or a philosophical point, or people wouldn’t get anywhere in a discussion. We both know that gravity, tends to be a fact, we’re both males, tends to be a fact, and water tends to be wet, we understand that to be a fact. So when I’m having a discussion and we’re discussing common elements we tend to believe are true and one party deviates from this, the discussion is a waste of my time at that point. This is why I give conspiracy theories very little credence. When a topic of discussion takes on too many moving parts I pretty much dismiss that person.



Senator Sanders wasn’t denied anything due to fraud that’s nonsense and again, not proven anywhere. Simply because someone loses that you want to win doesn’t mean fraud is involved. Elections tend to be very emotional for a lot of people because they become very vested in a given candidate and I completely accept and understand this, but to conclude, fraud, is ridiculous because it’s very hard to get away with.



How the establishment responds to Trump is irrelevant to me. I’m looking at voters and how they respond to his vitriol and divisiveness and how he affects our politics on a daily basis. Trump is poison to reasonable discourse, intellectual honesty, integrity, fair play, and reason. It’s from that basis I come at the Trump phenomenon. Also, there is no legal precedent on Trump’s side which is why he’s getting his suits tossed and why he ultimately came to be represented by a cadre of crazy and incompetent attorneys.

Also, the HOR did not impeach Trump based on the dossier and the articles of impeachment (which you clearly didn’t read) are particular about this. Trump was impeached because he abused his office to try to manufacture a scandal against a candidate he knew he was most vulnerable against and it played out the way he thought it would. He lost.

No, I don’t get the comparison, but that’s fine, it’s clear to me a lot of what you write probably isn’t as well thought out as you’re trying to present here.



I do read your posts, but as I’ve stated earlier, you really aren’t that clear or coherent. I’m not trying to bash you, I’m stating a fact, I do not understand your points and what you’re trying to accomplish. I would have never pegged you as a supporter of Senator Sanders because many of the points you use I see the Right using, which is why I thought you were a Trump supporter and I’m not the only one. In the thread you created yesterday, several of the posters thought just the same thing as I did, which told me I’m not the only one that doesn’t understand what the hell you’re talking about.

To me, you do more babbling than making coherent points. Additionally from my point of view, our institutions have already rendered a verdict and the silent Republicans know this as well, their inability to speak out says more about their political angling than it does anything else. Trump has been abusing the process for weeks to try to reverse a result everyone knows to be true. There was zero widespread voter fraud. The hand count in GA really drove this point home. There was almost no variation between the paper ballots and the machines the votes were entered into. If there was a mistake it tended to be because of human error.

Dominion: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dominion...of-against-us/

The judge in the Pennsylvania suit really summed up Trump's legal prospects perfectly. I probably shouldn’t assume that you’ve read the opinion, which is 37 pages, but I will. Trump knows he lost, and reports from the White House are consistent on this.



Simply because I don’t agree with you on this point doesn’t mean I haven’t looked at many angles before this discussion, unless, you think this is the first time I’ve looked at this? It isn’t by the way, I’m a political junkie, all I do is read and think about politics, so when Trump made his initial claims when he formed his now defunct Voter Integrity Commission, I looked at that seriously, even when they found zero evidence of voter fraud. He formed the commission because he was claiming foreigners and dead people were voting for Clinton, he lied and it was false.

Let’s take my speculation out of it, the judges are ruling along the lines of my conclusions and before they even ruled in these cases I knew how they going to rule because you can’t go into a court of law like you’re on Newsmax or Fox News, either you can prove your case or you can’t.

I can’t truly say if you’re wise or not, but I’m leaning more towards not, just because of the nature of your posts.



Again, I have been reading your posts and to me they’re nonsensical, and from other responses I’ve seen to them, I’m not the only one that believes this. Maybe you’re just misunderstood, but I doubt it. I don’t have a need to malign you, I offer up my thoughts as they occur, I’m not responsible for your feelings as you aren’t responsible for mine.



I don’t care if you have the last word, and I’m going to respond to every post that’s written to me as I would respond to every statement if we were sitting in person and having a conversation. You can call it whatever you want. Peace out.

What you are is someone who is an example of what this country and world has become... because standards of critical thinking, objectivity in the media have been flushed down the toilet, we are entering an age of diversion and censorship.

You are unable to tolerate an opinion that simply asks that the courts be able to look at evidence presented. You are too stupid to realize that you, and I, have no access to the evidence. So, you parade a cause that the state media has taken on full speed ahead... that using legitimate forms of redress, might hurt a transfer of power.

There is no evidence of this, and if the tactics become simply a means to stall, I don't see it... each state can certify the election results and seem to be. And if we, as the nation we purport to be, cannot handle this process, we have bigger problems.

Ridiculing Trump, lampooning others is not a bad thing... But when you castigate others who share an opinion that differs, nd resort to personal attacks... you are a pawn. You may not realize it but getting you to resort to personal attacks shows exactly where you are at...

Soon people like you will be calling for others to be censored, then thrown in jail, then eventually, "hey they deserved to lose their job"... that is what history tells us.

I am going to try one last appeal to you to use your common sense. In Germany, during the second world war, one of Hitler's tactics was to go to the University. He convinced the smartest people in society that National Socialism was a panacea for their intellectual movement. He learned this from Hegel who, through nationalist fervor had every student in the university going to his classes. It was a big circle jerk of nationalist sentiments that one better go along with, or they were stupid, deluded...

Your need to demean, the way the press demeans, the way language has been weaponized, are all leading us down a similar path... MCcarthy had good people, black balled. They committed suicide, and other wise were ruined because of his accusations. Just like cancel culture. Someone uses the wrong word and God help them.

Grow up.

[aboutfkntime]

We all know what these little estro-males feared in Trump, and we all know why they want him out. It has nothing to do with morals, character or integrity. These same slobs worship lowlife rappers and athletes, they make excuses for rioters and thugs, so they need to stop pretending they care about values.

exactly !!


FACT: there are lowlife shlt-bags who live among us


well... now we know who they are

[HOUDINI563]

If their were true systemic voter fraud that statistically were relevant all Americans would be outraged. However just based upon the unhinged press conferences involving the lawyers representing Trump they have NOTHING. Add to this nearly 30 of their cases have been thrown out/dismissed. Why? Their is no evidence. So what you are instead seeing is a President totally uninterested in a fair election result. Trump wants to subvert the fabric of this nation, the right to vote, to find a way to win. EVERYONE should be outraged as this goes beyond Republican or Democrat. Trump is attacking the basic laws that make us great and he does not care. You have allowed a Cretin to become President. Luckily this nightmare ends Jan 20th.

[1bad65]

c'mon ... I say they, you say "you guys" ... I don't know who you guys is. They is referring to those gaming the system but saying differently publicly. This system was in place before Obama, and unlike you I'm not pointing to one party and blaming. All parties are guilty, but specific parties/y, which I don't need to point out, have harsher outlook toward immigrants while reaping in all the benefits ... the other is more progressive towards the same issue

Lmfao!!!!

Dude, you been cheerleading hard the last week or so.

Man up and at least admit it.

You're a political Team D superfan. You chant all the big team cheers and trash talk everyone who dares say anything negative about your team or says anything positive about their rivals.

At least own it.

[Shadoww702]

White man stfu. Lol lol @ you saying you are a Mexican lol lol lol. Now you trying to act like a gangster, “put a slug in your head”.

Gimme a break. You soft mfer.

I asked where ya from BG and get jack sht.

Come put that slug in me? I got mine also.

Go put your dress back on Tinkerbell fkn fruity lil fuk.

[D.I.E.S.E.L]

To those that said Sidney Powell wasn't a part of the Trump Team to begin with .. this after disowning her in the past 48 hours. This is Trump tweet from just a week ago verbatim “I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS!” he wrote. “Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!”

So..which is it ? Was she a part of the team or not ? Why would the President have included her if she wasn't ? This has got to be the most disorganized group of professionals assigned for a high profile case that we have ever witnessed. IF she was not a part of the team , then why the f.uck would you let her get any type of speaking time at the podium and that crazy press conference they had ? Imagine this, Sidney Powell, not a part of the Trump Team allegedly, shows up to court to argue the case she is not assigned to and gets immediately tossed out. Also, if she was never a part of the team as some like to claim now ... those morons are sharing information with her ? How stupid do you have to be ?

[1bad65]

c'mon ... I say they, you say "you guys" ... I don't know who you guys is. They is referring to those gaming the system but saying differently publicly. This system was in place before Obama, and unlike you I'm not pointing to one party and blaming. All parties are guilty, but specific parties/y, which I don't need to point out, have harsher outlook toward immigrants while reaping in all the benefits ... the other is more progressive towards the same issue

Yet when I straight-up challenged you to cite any of your posts criticizing Team D for things you're criticizing Reps for, you didn't even try.

The only thing worse than an openly political superfan, is one who denies being a superfan.